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Nukora

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I was thinking while reading the latest BotW article and looking at my various entries and their crazy insanities (unnecessary adjective, I suppose). It's good I don't expose you guys to my pure random thoughts. They're really random. Here are a few thoughts (which I've been wanting to write for a while it should be noted) with the randomity brought down a few levels down from maximum bearable range:

  • How on earth did the existing time system come to be. There are 24 hours in a day, 60 minutes an one such hour, and 60 seconds in such a minute. This system is based loosely on base twelve, though in ways that make no sense. In this age, and in most known of the past, we deal in base 10. But, as if this wasn't bad enough when they decided they needed a unit smaller than seconds they didn't make them 1/60 or 1/120 of a second, but 1/1000. If base twelve is to be used, stick with it!

 

Or totally convert to base 10. Decidays, cenitdays, milidays, tetrodays(?), pentodays(?). .1 day is approximately 2 hours, 24 minutes. I've found that this system works quite nicely and has a much more modern feel about it. Almost sci-fi. But in any case it's much better than splitting the day into 24 and then splitting that into 60. For more information on metric time, you can visit this lame page I made a few months ago.

While we're on the subject, why 360 degrees in a circle? We seem to again be functioning on base twelve again. And then, of course, once again, there are 60 lesser units in this greater unit. And WHY are these lesser units called minutes again?! Time only has a relation to a circle in the rotation of the earth, in which case 15 of these degrees is an hour. Very, very strange.

Now to the final question involving our silly base twelve measurements: How did they get to be used worldwide? It would appear that Rome might have used the time one, as our PM and AM abbreviations come from post meridiem and ante meridiem. But whey did Rome use them? Their number system (in language, not the numerals) were in base ten, as seen by the fact that there is a word for one thousand, but the way to express 1200 is simply saying "one thousand plus two hundred." And if the Romans didn't use them, who else could have made them global? Alexander, who was before Rome?

Also, how did the US system for measuring...everything come about? Did they want to be totally different from England in such ways that they forced their citizens to adopt this crazy system of measuring. 12 inches in a foot, 3 feet in a yard, such-in-such feet in a rod, so-and-so rods in a mile. It would appear to also have roots in the number base of twelve. The similarity in length of a foot and a the sorts of things you walk on should be noted, though 12 inches is a small foot. Most important is the similarity between a meter, a foot, and the length from the tips of someone's finger to their chest. Also, I laugh at how the US is trying to switch to metric. They measure their American football fields in yards and their tracks in meters.

What was Fahrenheit trying to do when he made his heat measurement system? As far as I can figure out he wanted average human temperature to be his 100 degrees but was off. The other mark he was trying to hit must have either been 32 for freezing (for no reason other than that he liked the number), he liked the idea of -40 in Celsius and his measurements to be the same or the number 212 appealed to him for boiling.

 

Oh, and is 1/60 of a degree called a minute? :P*

So what if they are all about measurements. They've been bugging me for months. I was going to do something about the crazy English languages and spelling of some words, but this look up so much space.

 

Edit Note: It seems the US system of measurement comes from the Imperial units used in Britain at some point, but I still do not know why.

 

* Somehow this sentence lacked the intended "here" or "this. I really meant to say "Is 1/60th of one of these degrees also a minute?", as I was discussing Fahrenheit.

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Fahrenheit set 100 degrees as the temperature of the insides of a cow, and 0 as the temperature of an ice-cream type substance. Two completely random things. As for the other things, I'm clueless (I like the idea of a metric time system though). I should really start trying to switch to metric system.

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Oh, and is 1/60 of a degree called a minute?

Yup. I could say 13°52'12'' wich would mean 13 degrees 52 minutes and 12 seconds.

Metric system is somehow relating to the french as we use SI standards wich means System Intèrnational.(To lazy to check wikipedia for the reason.)

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It's not base twelve, actually; it's base six – that tradition comes from ancient Sumer, whose number system was based on six, as far as I know. But that's why all our time measurements are like that, ultimately.
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Ah! Base six makes a lot more sense of why there are 60 seconds in minutes and 60 minutes an an hour, but why use 24 (written as 40 in base six) hours for a day?
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Something worthy of note: Rome didn't necessarily use the same time system, regardless of the roots of A.M. and P.M. In Rome, a day was divided into twelve hours, identified as "the first hour", "the second hour," etc. (which is also, if I'm not mistaken, the origin of the phrase "the eleventh hour"). A night was divided into four watches. Why not hours? The reason is obvious: sundials don't work at night.

 

Clearly, by this system, ante meridiem and post meridiem mean nothing more than how they are translated-- before noon and after noon. There is no trace of the twelve hours before, twelve hours after system to which we are accustomed. Why, then, are these Latin terms used? Because Latin was not exclusive to the Roman empire-- Latin was almost exclusively the written language for hundreds of years after the Roman Empire. The vernacular didn't gain widespread use until the Rennaissance.

 

Concerning the use of Base 12 and slight variations on the same, most systems of measure have similar origins to the metric system in this respect (and make as much or more)-- the number of units in a greater unit draws itself from a number frequently appearing in nature or geometry (for instance, a chord of equal length to a circle's radius stretches across one-sixth of a circle's perimeter from one end of the chord to the next).

 

I fail to see what's so laughable about American attempts to switch to metric. Switching the tracks to metric has a point-- it offers consistency between American track records and those of foreign nations. But in football there is scarcely such a point, since (to my knowledge) NO METRIC-USING COUNTRY plays American football.

 

The Fahrenheit scale... ugh... I learned it once one way that made plenty of sense, but I've forgotten and Wikipedia isn't helping.

 

As for the US system of measure, almost all of them predated the country itself, and were used in England prior to the adoption of the metric system. Most have been redefined over time, but they tend to still exist under the same or similar names (the Romans themselves originated the mile (from "mille"), though their mile was a much different length). Just a question-- how did England justify it's monetary divisions for so long? At least the US has had a system of dividing money based on the number 10/100 for pretty much as long as it's had a common currency (i.e. since the writing of the constitution).

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