So they're okay with you reading the books (which are worse than the movie, I've heard) but not with you seeing the movie?

Arpy

So they're okay with you reading the books (which are worse than the movie, I've heard) but not with you seeing the movie?

 

Arpy

I read The Golden Compass four years ago in 8th grade and then started rereading it again before the movie because I realized from the trailers that I forgot a lot of stuff. I'm about halfway through, I think. But now I have no motivation to finish it soon. I might forget it by the time I can watch it. (I figure I'll borrow it from a friend on DVD when I'm in college and have a laptop. That's won't be until September though)

It's not seeing the movie, exactly, but giving money to see it, because the money will go to Paulman (the author) and whatever he is doing to promote atheism. They'd rather that didn't happen. So I don't think they'd have a hole fit about me seeing it eventually for free. (What they don't know can't hurt them, right?)

I don't think they want me reading the other two books, but now I'm curious. And I do believe you're right in saying that the books are worse as far as God-bashing goes....

You're Catholic too, so what's up in your family with this?

-CF

My mom doesn't mind (I watched the movie today, and have started to reread the book =D). She says she's confident that her children can make decisions for themselves, and I'm glad she holds that opinion.

I don't know what "plans" you're talking about in Philip Pullman's case, but again I bring up my principle of disassociation-- he hasn't the potential to bring anybody harm by his views besides himself and others who actively choose to share his views. Therefore disassociating with him or his work is not merited according to my standards. Of course, if a person holds the belief that people are that easy to sway, then they would be justified in their eyes if they were to disassociate with Mr. Pullman. That principle, like all, leaves room for opinion. Its purpose is not to present objective judgement but to force people to put thought into more subjective judgement before making decisions as serious as disassociation (which manages to include many of my particular pet peeves, among them censorship and the fickle switching between hatred and friendship that occurs in far too many people, particularly young children).

I get annoyed by it when people try to keep people from making money off of views they consider wrong as well-- I don't see how money will help the person when their life ends and they face the consequences for their actions (of course, this would not justify paying him if the person who was afraid of his views was an atheist or another who didn't believe in an afterlife, but I don't think that's the case amongst those who find fault in this film).

I could add a third rant concerning whether the books are indeed anti-Christian, but I'm afraid that such discussion would merit the deletion of my comments and the closing of the entry, given the need to keep the site free of such easily conflicting views (and with good reason-- I don't like large religious disputes any more than the next guy).

But I hope you get to see the movie eventually-- believe me, you won't regret it.

Aanchir,

Yeah, I could care less about other people that don't effect me. And the only people going crazy about the anti-religion stuff are those types of people at always go crazy about differences.

I agree we can't quite talk about this, but I think I haven't crossed the line...yet, so if the chat stops here we should be fine. (Plus there's not much to talk/debate/complain about because we can't quite sway any views....)

I hope I can see it eventually too. Glad you liked it.

-CF

I have a few atheist friends. The key to not having friendship-destroying arguments is to make sure it is clear that you respect their view. I've had many competitive debates with him trying to show him the light, but he is strong in his view. It actually gets pretty interesting. He's a great debater, and when we were teamed up for our Social Studies Debate Project, we kicked butt.

Yes, I know this doesn't really have much to do with your Entry except the topic of Atheism.

I was originalyy forbidden from book reading and movie viewing, but I am now allowed to read the book, as long as I don't read The Amber Spyglass (when they kill God)

Lluvio, my best friend (who is not in any religion, but not atheist) and I actually enjoy discussing points of view on things like destiny and God.