Eh, slightly agree. I think we've always known he's had plans (Bohrok to awake if he is ever "defeated").

What really made him go downhill was when his name was revealed--and it sucked.

~D2

Meh idk. Sure, Makuta's "defeat" was what triggered the Bohrok, but it never really felt as if he'd done it consciously, because the Bohrok didn't really seem to be controllable by anything external.

Part of it is that the Bohrok shouldn't have happened, because their awakening wasn't at all in accordance with the prophecies, as everything else seemed to be. The prophecies had to change, which as far as I know was utterly unprecedented, because that just doesn't happen. Prophecies are prophecies. It was really only the utter wrongness of the Bohrok that tied them in any way to Makuta.

Well, I'm off to sleep. Haave to get up at like 6:45 for Orthros

"Destroy me? You cannot destroy me. No more than you can destroy the sea, or the wind. Or the void."

I miss Makuta. He was a great villain.

Teridax, on the other hand...

"Destroy me? You cannot destroy me. No more than you can destroy the sea, or the wind. Or the void."

 

I miss Makuta. He was a great villain.

 

Teridax, on the other hand...

This.

Teridax is just a kind of okay villain. Even other Makuta are more interesting than him... like Krika...

~Bunda

I like to think he didn't actually plan everything, he's just incredibly good at acting cool and has really good luck.

That's what I just said, you copycat!

Schemer Teridax is more realistic than cosmic evil "the" Makuta. Just saying.

I definitely like the "new" Makuta (i.e. Teridax) better than the old one. The old one, yes, felt more like some mysterious, ancestral entity, and there was a bit of charm to that, but overall his "reign of terror" really felt kinda meaningless. Besides putting Mata Nui to sleep (the big impetus) his actions felt more like chaotic mischief than something more sinister.

It was a bit jarring when he became so much more "real" in 2003-- with plans, schemes, and a visible set form. Admittedly I had waited a long time for a visible set form of a main villain, and the Bahrag were a welcome addition after the Throwbots, Roboriders, and 2001 BIONICLE storylines had disappointed me in that regard. But it was still a bit odd to see him adhere to one form, when before he had been insubstantial and reclusive

Still, every time he became more real it was also pleasing. Suddenly we weren't facing a god; we were facing a mortal with a mind and ambition that left gods in the dust. Consider the similar transitions that Voldemort took during the Harry Potter storyline (which is in fact a wonderful parallel, seeing as he, too, had no physical form until later in the story). He changed from a mysterious, unmentionable evil force to someone who was disturbingly like us, but with minor distinctions that made him infinitely more fearsome.

But I dunno. I can understand how the old Makuta contributed more to the early aspects of BIONICLE's feel. But really, it seems to me that with such seemingly unnatural developments as the Bohrok saga (underground robot hives, etc.) BIONICLE's feel was destined to change over time, and it's probably good that Teridax adapted to be a part of that change rather than becoming something that totally failed to fit with the rest of the storyline.