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Bzp Debate Terms Guide


bonesiii

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In most debates, most of the "disagreements" actually arise because one side or another (or both) fails to clearly define the terms they are using. This is a continuing and profound problem on BZP that I run into often; and often I find myself needing to repeat myself over and over as new debate topics pop up with members posting in them that missed the last topic. Gets tedious, so here's a basic dictionary of the debate terms most important to Bionicle debates on BZPower! :) [Note: I maxed out this blog entry! XD This will instead serve as a link to a topic, thusly. Please post comments in the topic instead of here, until it dies.]

I'll also include some common logical fallacies and the like frequently used on BZP, and a few terms that I came up with myself that describe some common tendencies we have here. Of course, this is nowhere near complete, but it does cover most of what is important. Any formal definitions I provide are from Dictionary.com and thus are easily verifiable by anyone who doubts me. Other links are to Wikipedia--note of course that this content could be edited/vandalized after I link to it, so keep that in mind when following those links.

Each opening word(s) to be defined are bolded and blued. Key phrases or words within the definition are bolded so you can avoid sifting through the longer explanations if you wish. And when one defined word is mentioned in another's definition, the word is blued.

Also note, some erroneous quotes here are from a certain BZP member, and are used with permission--the member has since realized the mistakes made in them--the quotes are not to be taken as disparagement of any member, but rather examples of very common mistakes made by many, many members of BZP. :) I'll leave it up to that member to decide if he wants to identify himself or not.

Keep in mind that the point of this blog entry is not to stifle debate or complaining, but to help BZPers improve the quality of their criticism of Bionicle--so that it can be 1) constructive, 2) useful, and 3) logical and reasonable. I'll be linking to this often, I expect, in future debates, rather than repeat these definitions over and over. Feel free to link to it for the same reasons.

Basics

Problematic Cliches and Fallacies

My Terms

Hope this is useful!

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I didn't have time to read your entire topic, but I will tomorrow. However, I don't have a serious comment here, but a somewhat jokingly comment here (you can delete this if you want, but at least that shows me you read this :P )

 

Wow... and people think I'm crazy :D

 

This is very nice bones. I can't believe how much time this must have taken!

 

Again... *shifty eyes* ... you're one crazy dude bones :P

 

~U

 

P.S. - But a good crazy :)

 

 

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All I have to say is that you write....A LOT

 

I also didn't have time to read your HUGE Topic but I'm gonna read it later, casue I have to go to bed for school tomorrow. I'll try to read it tomorrow.

 

Well I couldn't really understand the first few paragraphs but I'm gonna read them again.

 

Sorry dude, you're little entry is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayy to big...

 

-CK

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Wow. Am I the only one who had the time to read the thing?

 

Well, if you do get the time, I highly recommend you read everything. It is -very- good advice. I think that some of you would certainly benefit from it (You know who you are :sly:)

 

~:x:~

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... and the sad thing is that the people who need to read this won't.
:rolleyes: True. But the great thing is now we have a database which we can quote and link to. Something we can use to clear up loads of stuff.

 

I said it in the topic, but I'll say it again here. Something like this is even more useful to people who don't speak English as their mother tongue--like me. So I'm extremely happy that there's a list of debate terms and their definitions in S&T!

 

If nothing else, this will engrave your ultimate S&T guru fame to even harder protodermis rock :).

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