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This is a bit off topic...
This is what Greg says:
8. How many Toa of Light are/were there, or is Takanuva the only one?
8) Takanuva is the only one, everI found this on the BS01 Av-Matoran page:
Each Av-Matoran has a higher chance of being destined to become a Toa than other types of Matoran, due to the fact they were the first type of Matoran.
Is there a source for this information? If Av-Matoran have higher chance of transformation into Toa, how could Takanuva be the only in 100,000 years, when there have been hundreds of the other types of Toa? These two facts contradict each other. Maybe Av-Matoran are just more likely to transform, regardless of what they're transforming into?
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If anyone would have learned other latent matoran traits, it would have been Takua, the amount of travelling he did.
That brings up another question. Wouldn't Takua's lack of heat-resistance reveal that he is not a Ta-Matoran? Or did the Order of Mata Nui somehow grant him heat-resistance when they hid him on Metru Nui to complete his disguise? The 2001-2003 story doesn't really confirm either one, as Takua would have to have some level of heat-resistance to lava surf, but in Mask of Light he is burned by the Avohkii after he fishes it out of the lava.
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I hope this font is easier to read. I'm used to using Courier fonts.
I didn't disagree with your translations, I merely got to the same translations using different etymologies. Most of your names still came out to approximately the same meaning as mine, they just have different etymologies.
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I've been looking into the Matoran dictionary for a while (great job Tolkien!) and I have also made my own list of Kanohi names. When I found this post I was excited! You did a good job Regitnui, but if i could offer a few suggestions:
Adaption: Vamutru makes a bit more sense than Vumufu. Vamutru < vamu-mu(t)-ru, from vamu "always changing" and mutru "oriented towards change."
Aging: I used a similar translation of "intensive passage of time", but I chose to use Vaduisak < va-duisi-ak, from va "time", duisi "passage", and the intensifying particle -ak. Avaik is good, but doesn't exhibit the actual passing of time (the duisi part).
Clairvoyance: I initially went the same way as you did, using ihu "far-seeing" as a base. But "far-seeing" seems to lack the "future" aspect of the mask power. I ended up using Vakama (the future lit: moving time) as a base, and came up with Vakmaku < vakama-aku, from vakama "future", and aku "sight". lit: "future sight".
Conjuring: Kamuro < ka-amu-oro, from ka "power", -amu "through, during", and oro "word". lit: "power through word(s)."
Elemental Energy: This was was hard. I tried to find a word or phrase that translated directly as "elemental energy" but couldn't (does anyone know of one?). I ended up using Kevua < ke-vua, from ke "restoration" and vua "power reservoir." Its only slightly more descriptive than your Keka.
Incomprehension: For this one I used Rau and just took the opposite; Rauku < rau-ku, from rau "understanding" and the negative particle -ku. lit: "non-understanding."
Light and Shadow: I thought it would fun to make a name for this one Kavakra. it has two etymologies; 1. kai-avo-kra, from kai "unity", avo "light", and okra "shadow"; "Unity of light and shadow". 2. ka-avak-kra, from ka "power", avak, "bright", and kra "shadow". This last one comes from the supposed paradox of having two opposite powers in one mask; "Bright shadows" cannot exist.
Psychometry: you and I almost agreed on this one. I used Lumihi instead of Lumiha. In my case my etymology is lumi-hi, from lumi "insight", and -hi "object". I'm unsure why you used ha instead.
Rebounding: I had difficulty with this one as well. I came up with Trakama < ter-kama, from tra variant of ter "guiding force", and kama "to move". lit: "guiding movement". Honestly it sounds too much like an alternate name for a Mataku ("telekinesis").
Scavenging: for this one I had to create a new meaning for the word bour. In the dictionary it is listed as "wilderness, barrenness", but I took it a bit further and translated it as "death", since that is the literal translation of the word; not (plant)-life, not living. my name for this mask is Parzibur < par-zi-bour, from par "strength", zi, "drained, and bur, reduction of bour "death". lit: "strength drained from death."
Sensory Aptitude: we completely agree on the naming of this mask; Kamel < ka-mi-el, from ka "power", mi "up, above", and el "detection, sense." lit: "power of increased sense." Good job.
Undeath: once I made my new meaning for bour, this mask was easy to name. Urbur < ur-bour, essentially creating a double negative; lit: "not-non-life." This adds to the unnaturalness behind this mask's power. The user is not dead... but not quite alive either.
Creation: no list of Kanohi would be complete without this one! For the record, I liked the name you came up with, and I think it sounds cool. If you want an alternate, try this: Takhatra < takha-ter, from take "craft, crafting" and tra variant of ter "guiding force". lit: "guiding force of crafting".
I hope this gives you a few more ideas, Regitnui. If you see anything wrong with my translations please tell me (I'm very open to advice). I'm glad someone other than myself took interest in Tolkien's amazing work.
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Simplifying the Species List
in Bionicle Storyline & Theories
Posted · Edited by Orokai42
There are lots of good ideas floating around in this topic. One thing I don't think anyone has brought up is just how many islands there actually are in the MU. By my count there are over forty islands and two continents. Considering the massive size of the universe, its actually wouldn't be all that surprising if each island had its own native species, and the two continents could easily have two or three native species each. This would account for the vast array of different species we encounter in the MU.
Having said that, from a story-telling perspective I agree that fewer is better. Here is a list I developed for my own head canon:
1. Airwatcher's Species
2. Amphibax's Species
3. Botar's Species
4. Brutaka, Hydraxon, and Lariska's Species
5. Axonn and Carapar's Species
6. Darkness's Species
7. Dweller and Vanisher's Species
8. Ehlek's Species
9. Eliminator's Species
10. Guardian and Mimic's Species
11. Kalmah and Lurker’s Species
12. Krahka (Triglax's Species)
13. Matoran (3 sub-species, 15 elemental sub-types)
a. Matoran
b. Toa
c. Turaga
14. Makuta
15. Mantax and Trinuma’s Species
16. Nocturn's Species
17. Nynrah Natives (Pridak and Jerbraz’s Species)
18. Odina Natives (Tyrant’s species)
19. Primal's Species (2 sub-species)
a. Primal’s Species
b. Seeker’s Species
20. Poison's Species
21. The Shadowed One and Ancient's Species
22. Shadow Stealer's Species
23. Skakdi (14 elemental sub-types)
24. Steltian (3 sub-species)
a. Upper-class (Sidorak’s species)
b. Middle-class “Bruisers” (Krekka’s species)
c. Slave-class (Gladiator’s species)
25. Takadox's Species
26. Tobduk's Species
27. Vengeance's Species
28. Vortixx (3 sub-species)
a. Xians (Roodaka’s Species)
b. Conjurer’s Species
c. Johmak’s Species
29. Zyglak