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I Hate This


Wrinkledlion X

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I'm in an argument via PM with a member who claims my late Grandfather and Uncle (both wonderful people) had "problems."

His reasoning is that my grandfather smoked and my Uncle did some drugs in his lifetime. He insists that he's not rude because they did do drugs.

 

What do you think? Do you consider it rude to tell a person that his dead loved ones had "problems?"

 

EDIT: Oh, and now he's claiming that I never really cared about them... Really!

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K, buddie, heres how it is.

 

I never said anything about them, you brought it up, not me, just drop your whining, its not gonna help, I had every right to say what I said in my blog, you disagree, so what? I had nothing to do with your grandpa and uncle, so, whos the one here screwing around?

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I was trying to be nice and keep you anonymous...

 

Anyways, you posted in your blog that any drug-users (including coffee drinkers) have "problems." I hear my loved ones criticized for this every day and so I replied in your blog that drug-users don't always and can be good people. I'm defending the memories of the people I love from this sort of criticism.

 

I thought it didn't go through, so I posted it again later. After that one disappeared, again with no explanation, I got irritated and kept trying to at least get an answer for why my perfectly valid comment was gone.

 

Then you PMed me and I replied that you insulted my relatives. You said you didn't understand how. After I told you that you had claimed they had problems, you randomly shifted to lecturing me about the amount of chemicals in cigarette smoke.

 

We got into an argument about what constitutes an insult. You insisted that, as I had called you closeminded earlier, I had insulted you and that, because a few of my family members had used drugs, what you said wasn't an insult.

 

At some point you gave a list of things you thought made the drug-use morally wrong and this time asked if it applied to my entire family! Then you started claiming that because I brought it up and defended them, I didn't truly care about them.

 

That is something I find insulting. The idea that you would claim I don't love my family disgusts me. Why would I not be angry?

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I was trying to be nice and keep you anonymous...

 

Anyways, you posted in your blog that any drug-users (including coffee drinkers) have "problems." I hear my loved ones criticized for this every day and so I replied in your blog that drug-users don't always and can be good people. I'm defending the memories of the people I love from this sort of criticism.

 

I thought it didn't go through, so I posted it again later. After that one disappeared, again with no explanation, I got irritated and kept trying to at least get an answer for why my perfectly valid comment was gone.

 

Then you PMed me and I replied that you insulted my relatives. You said you didn't understand how. After I told you that you had claimed they had problems, you randomly shifted to lecturing me about the amount of chemicals in cigarette smoke.

 

We got into an argument about what constitutes an insult. You insisted that, as I had called you closeminded earlier, I had insulted you and that, because a few of my family members had used drugs, what you said wasn't an insult.

 

At some point you gave a list of things you thought made the drug-use morally wrong and this time asked if it applied to my entire family! Then you started claiming that because I brought it up and defended them, I didn't truly care about them.

 

That is something I find insulting. The idea that you would claim I don't love my family disgusts me. Why would I not be angry?

 

You lost the argument, and lied about many things in that post up ^there^.

 

I've shown this to a few friends, they all agree with me, and honsetly, thats enough.

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How did I lose?

 

What did I lie about? List concrete falsities. (And I've shown it to friends as well, who agree with me. What our friends think is insignificant here.)

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How did I lose?

 

What did I lie about? List concrete falsities.

 

For one thing i did not say it all applied to your family, I did not say you didn't care about them, I did not direct any insults at your family.

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Learn some thinking skills,

 

Ok, heres how it is, people start drugs because they,

 

1. Want to fit in (No body needs to "fit in")

2. They think its a comfort for the things in theyre life

3. They have problems

 

Tell me, does your family not qualify for these?

This one may be due to a typo or something. I may have interpreted it wrong.

If you really cared about other people should act about your family, you shouldn't bring it up.
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Learn some thinking skills,

 

Ok, heres how it is, people start drugs because they,

 

1. Want to fit in (No body needs to "fit in")

2. They think its a comfort for the things in theyre life

3. They have problems

 

Tell me, does your family not qualify for these?

This one may be due to a typo or something. I may have interpreted it wrong.

If you really cared about other people should act about your family, you shouldn't bring it up.

 

Yes, you read it worng.

 

I said if you really want to defend your family, you should do it in your mind, not go blowing off at people.

 

But like I said in the last PM, I'm done.

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Typos make debates difficult...

Regardless, I think it's a disservice to them not to mention them to you after being dismissed as having "problems." I still disagree with your statement and am insulted by your original criticism.

And you still claimed that coffee-drinkers have problems, which is an insult to most people I know.

 

And I never "blew off at people."

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Typos make debates difficult...

Regardless, I think it's a disservice to them not to mention them to you after being dismissed as having "problems." I still disagree with your statement and am insulted by your original criticism.

And you still claimed that coffee-drinkers have problems, which is an insult to most people I know.

 

And I never "blew off at people."

 

Ok, after this, I will be done, you can bring it in PM.

 

I never said people that drink coffee had problems, I said its bad for your health.

 

Fine, blew off at me.

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Everyone has some problems: the more one lives, the more problems are accumulated.

 

Also, this seems to be nothing more than arguing.

 

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