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About Those Names


ToM Dracone

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So, that thing about trends in the names from 2001-2 I mentioned a earlier. Specifically relating to two consonantal sounds: f/v and s/z.

 

V was all over the place in 2001, but f much less so. This led me, in considering the name "Faxon," to wonder whether it was a question of the following vowel that determined whether the hard v or soft f were used; for instance diphthongs like ai or au or stronger vowels like a or o or, apparently, u. For instance, Vakama, Vuata Maca, and Amana Volo, contrasted with Fikou, the only name starting with f I could think of, which had the softer i sound.

 

This led to pondering the letters s and z, both of which were conspicuously lacking in 2001-2 – there were the Krana Su and Za, but before that all I can come up with even now are the Suva, Fusa, and Manas. Naturally, since the two sounds have exactly the same relationship as f and V, the same rule would probably apply to them, but with so few examples one couldn't say.

 

Since then (actually just this afternoon), I've found that the idea of soft or hard sound depending on following vowels doesn't really work, as shown by the Fau Swamp and Fusa (I had forgotten about that one), but I think I'll still be using that rule in Matorau. It's a fun idea. I also just thought that with a name like Hafu, where the f sound is in the middle, whether f or v depends on the rest of the word. I say "Hafu" with that strong English – more American than British, I think – A sound (like in "ham" or "fan"), so that would override the u after the f... Whereas words like Nuva and Suva don't have such strong vowels.

 

Just some ideas, really, which I'll be using even if they don't completely work within the Maori-esque age of Bionicle. The Fau swamp and Fusa would, I suppose, just be your average irregularities...

 

...Oh, that's enough for one entry. I'll list the names tomorrow, referencing this heavily, because I might as well go into the Makuta's names at the same time, and that will bring up a whole new subject at the same time...

~ ToM

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I think that when discussing stuff online, as long as it's typed, people can say it however they want in their heads.

 

When talking with someone, if you say Laewa and I say Leewa, we both know who's being talked about.

 

You do bring up some points though.

 

-CF

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Also, in 2001, the vast majority of sets' names ended in vowels. Look at some of those early characters:

 

Tahu

Onua

Pohatu

Gali

Lewa

Kopaka

 

Vakama

Whenua

Onewa

Nokama

Matatu

Nuju

 

Jala

Onepu

Huki

Maku

Kongu

Matoro

 

Nui Rama

Nui Jaga

Tarakava

Muaka, Kane Ra

Mana(s)

 

Makuta

Mata Nui

Kanohi

 

And if you look at the Kanohi, MNOG Tohunga, etc. you'll find that nearly every single name ended with -a, -u, -i, or -o.

 

Now jump to 2006 or 2007:

 

Hakann

Reidak

Avak

Vezok

Zaktan

Thok

 

Vezon

Fenrakk

Axonn

Brutaka

 

Kalmah

Mantax

Carapar

Takadox

Ehlek

Pridak

 

etc.

 

Here, most of the names end in -x, -n, or -k, with the exception of Brutaka. This is also true of the 2008 villains (the Toa Nuva still have their original names, thank god): Chirox, Vamprah, and all the other ones I can't remember.

 

I don't know why, but the 2001 names just seem cooler to me. (I don't like the letter x in names, it's hard to pronounce. I still can't pronounce "Xa") That's why "Makuta" sounds better to me than "Spiriah".

 

We can only pray that when Makuta's name is revealed later this year (WHY DID GREG HAVE TO DO THAT?) it will sound cool.

 

I just like the Maori names better than the made up ones. :P

 

~Sidorak The Hunter

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Actually, StH, if this is the year when the Brotherhood is finally dealt with (and it sure looks like it, but I could be wrong), then I suppose now is as good a time as any to reveal his name. I certainly wouldn't have been so opposed to it as I was if I had known then what I do now.

 

Anyway, whatever it is, I hope it'll be as cool as the name "Makuta". He deserves nothing less. I don't want any more Triglaxes or Gadunkas for our good ol' Makuta.

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...And all that is fine, dandy, agreed-with on preferring Maori-esque names to English-derived ones, and quite true about the change from strictly Maori spelling rules to English-based ones... but would anyone be so kind as to actually comment on what I said in the entry? :blink:
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...And all that is fine, dandy, and agreed-with on preferring Maori-esque names to English-derived ones, but would anyone be so kind as to actually comment on what I said in the entry? :blink:

 

:P

 

We're taking your ideas and branching out with them! :lol:

 

Anyways, I'd never really noticed that before, but now that you bring it up, that vowel pattern is there. Sort of interesting...

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Actually, StH, if this is the year when the Brotherhood is finally dealt with (and it sure looks like it, but I could be wrong), then I suppose now is as good a time as any to reveal his name. I certainly wouldn't have been so opposed to it as I was if I had known then what I do now.

 

Anyway, whatever it is, I hope it'll be as cool as the name "Makuta". He deserves nothing less. I don't want any more Triglaxes or Gadunkas for our good ol' Makuta.

I know, it is kind of necessary, with the Brotherhood and all. But I didn't like the idea of the Brotherhood in the first place, mainly because Makuta was always so mysterious, which was (IMO) his best characteristic. Making a whole clan of his species really didn't help that.

 

However, I will be satisfied with the name if some thought goes into it. What I don't want is a name that's an English pun, littered with X's and Z's. (Example: Axonn).

...And all that is fine, dandy, agreed-with on preferring Maori-esque names to English-derived ones, and quite true about the change from strictly Maori spelling rules to English-based ones... but would anyone be so kind as to actually comment on what I said in the entry? :blink:

Lol! Like DudeNuva said, we're just expanding on it. And you do have some good points. I always pronounced Fikou "Fy-koo."

 

Also, what is the Fau Swamp?

 

~Sidorak The Hunter

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The Fau Swamp is basically the swamp lying underneath Le-Koro on the island of Mata Nui. :psychotwitch: It could also be the entire Le-Koro ground level as a whole, actually...

 

I've always pronounced Fikou as "FEE-koo".

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Yeah, StH, I really prefere the vowels at the end of names. I still strive for the Maori-esque in naming MOCs and such.

 

...And all that is fine, dandy, agreed-with on preferring Maori-esque names to English-derived ones, and quite true about the change from strictly Maori spelling rules to English-based ones... but would anyone be so kind as to actually comment on what I said in the entry? :blink:

Well, that was long, and a lot of english class in it. So I didn't quite feel like fully understanding hard f vs soft f and all. Sorry, it's exam week.

 

-CF

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