I like the title of this entry. And quite agree with most of its content, though you neglected to mention one thing: Onua, strongest of the Toa, has the thinnest, spindliest limbs and feet (and body, from what I can see) available. :annoyed2:

I would love it if these actually were prototypes, but since none of the past few years' Toyfair sets have changed beyond the slightest typical-of-prototype things being fixed (i.e. Vezon's dark grey Ignika, Maxilos's dark grey armor), I see no reason these will...

I love all the bodies for the Nuva (Onua's got his gangly arms back!), but dislike the masks. I had so hoped for the Matoran masks... What we got is good, but the Matoran masks would have been so much better (and were so much easier to draw as Nuva masks...).

But, as the above poster comments, these are prototypes. Remember the "Toa Igniters" of ToyFair 2006 (smiley Jaller! )? I anticipate that the masks will improve, though I've lost much hope in my theory on the masks (waaaah... ).

The riders of the vehicles had better be temporary, 'cuz as of yet they're pretty pointless. Why make a new mask for a Lewa clone, a random Matoran on a relatively small set, or an arbitrary red dude?

Granted, the new masks aren't all bad. Takanuva's mask, like the rest of him, is totally made of win.

I suppose I'm expecting a tad too much. I anticipated more finalized versions of the sets than were leaked *admits to looking at leaked pics*, but I guess that wasn't a smart decision at this stage.

Also, you beat me to the name Mistake-a. I was waiting to see who would use it first (and am glad to see it is someone respectable who doesn't use it as an agent of flame), but after seeing the witless term "Nooba" used to describe them I decided it would be better to post it myself.

EDIT: ToM, are you forgetting Onua Mata's arms entirely?

EDIT: ToM, are you forgetting Onua Mata's arms entirely?

Onua Mata's weren't any spindlier than any others' – in fact, they were bulkier that Lewa and Kopaka's left arms... anyway, since this is supposed to be Onua Nuva, I would have thought it would follow the bulky-looking arms he had then. Not that Bohrok limbs are especially bulky in and of themselves, but coupled with his hunch and shoulders they gave the apperance of being strong. And at any rate, now that limbs actually can be built to suit a specific look, I'd just have thought that the strongest of the Toa would get the bulkiest pieces, as opposed to the some of the longest and definitely the spindliest. It just makes sense...

*notices that this is going exactly the same way as every other discussion they've had about 2008 Nuva has*

What a mistake-a to make-a.

*Wonders who knows where that is from*

I want to shoot the current designers for the sets. I seriously and whole-heartedly wish to do so.

Why must they continue to use Piraka torsos? Yes, perhaps they just used it for the prototypes. But if I see it in the final sets, I will just buy the pieces I want from the set on-line. It's just being re-used too much for a piece of that size. The designers are just lazy.

To me, these are not sets. Just a bunch of new parts slapped on older parts, placed in a mixer and tossed down a waterfall.

None of the nuva have been able to look like there '03 counterparts. Some don't even have the same colors so go figure.

The Makuta Phantoka seemed to be a good start since they looked alright, but these Makuta Mistika do a much worse job.

Their projectiles are too unlikely again. People do not carry along guns bigger than their heads if they are semi-automatic ones.

And Takanuva... words do not describe the Fail of that set at representing a being of Shadow and Light. It just doesen't work. And the torso, oh the torso. Flat and box-shaped.

Only Krika seems to be meet up to my standards right now but the colors need a bit more work. The new white spiked pieces need be less transparent white.

Wow, it seems no one likes the new sets.

Can you really blame us/them?

Triple Spinny Bladed Shield of Certain Doom? Catchy. I will call it that from now on.

I want to try and use Krika's toes for a rahkshi spine. Anyone else noticed that possibility?

EDIT: ToM, are you forgetting Onua Mata's arms entirely?

Onua Mata's weren't any spindlier than any others' – in fact, they were bulkier that Lewa and Kopaka's left arms... anyway, since this is supposed to be Onua Nuva, I would have thought it would follow the bulky-looking arms he had then. Not that Bohrok limbs are especially bulky in and of themselves, but coupled with his hunch and shoulders they gave the apperance of being strong. And at any rate, now that limbs actually can be built to suit a specific look, I'd just have thought that the strongest of the Toa would get the bulkiest pieces, as opposed to the some of the longest and definitely the spindliest. It just makes sense...

 

*notices that this is going exactly the same way as every other discussion they've had about 2008 Nuva has*

Is it? I just feel personally that ever since Onua Nuva the type of arms Onua dons has been arbitrary. Personally, I was miffed at the introduction of Bohrok arms onto Toa sets in the first place, as I was about the implementation of Rahkshi legs on Toa in '05. I have a right to be biased, and I'm certainly not saying you're wrong. I simply feel he looks fine with the Rahkshi legs and arms (though I hate Rahkshi legs on Toa, as stated above).

I don't even recall every conversation we've had about 2008 going the same way, anyway. I was willing to accept that Lewa Nuva ought to have had silver chest armor, and agreed from the start that all of the Phantoka would be better with Mata feet (which still irks me, since they went through the trouble to make a new mold for them...). Nevertheless, I try to remain optimistic about the sets. I agree that the masks so far are terrible (Tahu's works as a Kanohi I guess, but definitely not for Tahu's Hau Nuva, unless better pics reveal that somehow it does). Basically the only reason our longer conversations tend to include so much of the same persistent optimism (on my part) and realistic traditionalism (on your part) is that the ones where we easily agree don't tend to last.

EDIT: Setsuna, in all honesty do you EVER expect any projectile weapon smaller than a blunt shooter? Between safety demands, structural stability, and the need to implement new and creative action features in each projectile weapon, I cannot picture a single one that would be as "realistic" as you believe is possible and right.'

Also, you must realize the same quantity of sets gets bought no matter where you get the parts from. The seller has to get the parts from somewhere. If you want to even make the slightest difference, you're going to have to simply do without.

Heh, nice title.

I agree with almost all of these, some of them I don't, some in between.

But overall, Krika just Owns everyone else IMO...

Ah yes, here's a gift! enjoy!

-D-