How is it not rhythm and blues? Definitions change overtime.

-Omi

How is it not rhythm and blues? Definitions change overtime.

 

-Omi

Rhythm it may be. But blues it just isn't. I mean some of it is worth listening to and some of it sticks to the roots, but so much of it doesn't sound like R&B to me.

How is it not rhythm and blues? Definitions change overtime.

 

-Omi

 

Rhythm it may be. But blues it just isn't. I mean some of it is worth listening to and some of it sticks to the roots, but so much of it doesn't sound like R&B to me.

–noun

1. the blues, (used with a plural verb) depressed spirits; despondency; melancholy: This rainy spell is giving me the blues.

2. (used with a singular verb) Jazz.

a. a song, originating with American blacks, that is marked by the frequent occurrence of blue notes, and that takes the basic form, customarily improvised upon in performance, of a 12-bar chorus consisting of a 3-line stanza with the second line repeating the first.

b. the genre constituting such songs.

Seems by those definitions they do.

-Omi

How is it not rhythm and blues? Definitions change overtime.

 

-Omi

 

Rhythm it may be. But blues it just isn't. I mean some of it is worth listening to and some of it sticks to the roots, but so much of it doesn't sound like R&B to me.

–noun

1. the blues, (used with a plural verb) depressed spirits; despondency; melancholy: This rainy spell is giving me the blues.

2. (used with a singular verb) Jazz.

a. a song, originating with American blacks, that is marked by the frequent occurrence of blue notes, and that takes the basic form, customarily improvised upon in performance, of a 12-bar chorus consisting of a 3-line stanza with the second line repeating the first.

b. the genre constituting such songs.

 

Seems by those definitions they do.

 

-Omi

>< Why do you take everything so literally? I'm not saying modern R&B is terrible, all I'm saying is it doesn't sound like the same genre to me. Listen to a James Brown or Aretha Franklin album from the 1960's and compare it to a modern R&B album.

>< Why do you take everything so literally? I'm not saying modern R&B is terrible, all I'm saying is it doesn't sound like the same genre to me. Listen to a James Brown or Aretha Franklin album from the 1960's and compare it to a modern R&B album.

Compare Shinedown to the Who and tell me Shinedown isn't Rock n Roll.

And also, you should be asking yourself why you take things so literal.

-Omi

>< Why do you take everything so literally? I'm not saying modern R&B is terrible, all I'm saying is it doesn't sound like the same genre to me. Listen to a James Brown or Aretha Franklin album from the 1960's and compare it to a modern R&B album.

Compare Shinedown to the Who and tell me Shinedown isn't Rock n Roll.

 

-Omi

They aren't. The Who are early Hard Rock. Shinedown is Alt. Metal/Post-Grunge.

>< Why do you take everything so literally? I'm not saying modern R&B is terrible, all I'm saying is it doesn't sound like the same genre to me. Listen to a James Brown or Aretha Franklin album from the 1960's and compare it to a modern R&B album.

Compare Shinedown to the Who and tell me Shinedown isn't Rock n Roll.

 

-Omi

 

They aren't. The Who are early Hard Rock. Shinedown is Alt. Metal/Post-Grunge.

It is still rock regardless.

And they are not anything close to grunge nor metal.

-Omi

>< Why do you take everything so literally? I'm not saying modern R&B is terrible, all I'm saying is it doesn't sound like the same genre to me. Listen to a James Brown or Aretha Franklin album from the 1960's and compare it to a modern R&B album.

Compare Shinedown to the Who and tell me Shinedown isn't Rock n Roll.

 

-Omi

 

They aren't. The Who are early Hard Rock. Shinedown is Alt. Metal/Post-Grunge.

It is still rock regardless.

 

And they are not anything close to grunge nor metal.

 

-Omi

Actually no. That's like saying that a support beam for a house and a house are both buildings you can live in(Bad analogy I know, but it works).

First, I said Post-Grunge, not Grunge. Second, as a musician, yes, they are.

First, I said Post-Grunge, not Grunge. Second, as a musician, yes, they are.

And as a fan of their work and someone who worked in the field of music, no they aren't

-Omi

First, I said Post-Grunge, not Grunge. Second, as a musician, yes, they are.

And as a fan of their work and someone who worked in the field of music, no they aren't

 

-Omi

As a fan of their work and someone who makes music, yes, they are.

First, I said Post-Grunge, not Grunge. Second, as a musician, yes, they are.

And as a fan of their work and someone who worked in the field of music, no they aren't

 

-Omi

 

As a fan of their work and someone who makes music, yes, they are.

Shinedown is rock and roll. If you can't admit that, you are no practitioner of music.

-Omi

First, I said Post-Grunge, not Grunge. Second, as a musician, yes, they are.

And as a fan of their work and someone who worked in the field of music, no they aren't

 

-Omi

 

As a fan of their work and someone who makes music, yes, they are.

Shinedown is rock and roll. If you can't admit that, you are no practitioner of music.

 

-Omi

If you can't tell the difference between Rock, Post-Grunge and Metal, then I assume your work in music was for the deaf.

First, I said Post-Grunge, not Grunge. Second, as a musician, yes, they are.

And as a fan of their work and someone who worked in the field of music, no they aren't

 

-Omi

 

As a fan of their work and someone who makes music, yes, they are.

Shinedown is rock and roll. If you can't admit that, you are no practitioner of music.

 

-Omi

 

If you can't tell the difference between Rock, Post-Grunge and Metal, then I assume your work in music was for the deaf.

Rock is a large category that breaks down into that. That is why you hear Nirvana, GNR, and the Who on the same rock radio stations. Just like you hear DMX, Run DMC, and Sir Mixalot on Rap stations.

And at least I was on the radio. Two radio stations that is.

-Omi

First, I said Post-Grunge, not Grunge. Second, as a musician, yes, they are.

And as a fan of their work and someone who worked in the field of music, no they aren't

 

-Omi

 

As a fan of their work and someone who makes music, yes, they are.

Shinedown is rock and roll. If you can't admit that, you are no practitioner of music.

 

-Omi

 

If you can't tell the difference between Rock, Post-Grunge and Metal, then I assume your work in music was for the deaf.

Rock is a large category that breaks down into that. That is why you hear Nirvana, GNR, and the Who on the same rock radio stations. Just like you hear DMX, Run DMC, and Sir Mixalot on Rap stations.

 

And at least I was on the radio. Two radio stations that is.

 

-Omi

And that is exactly why I avoid using Rock as a genre when I can and use the sub-genres now. There are so many sub-genres, that Rock is too big a blanket term for me to willingly use it to describe sounds as different as what you have from one sub-genre to the next.

First, I said Post-Grunge, not Grunge. Second, as a musician, yes, they are.

And as a fan of their work and someone who worked in the field of music, no they aren't

 

-Omi

 

As a fan of their work and someone who makes music, yes, they are.

Shinedown is rock and roll. If you can't admit that, you are no practitioner of music.

 

-Omi

 

If you can't tell the difference between Rock, Post-Grunge and Metal, then I assume your work in music was for the deaf.

Rock is a large category that breaks down into that. That is why you hear Nirvana, GNR, and the Who on the same rock radio stations. Just like you hear DMX, Run DMC, and Sir Mixalot on Rap stations.

 

And at least I was on the radio. Two radio stations that is.

 

-Omi

 

And that is exactly why I avoid using Rock as a genre when I can and use the sub-genres now. There are so many sub-genres, that Rock is too big a blanket term for me to willingly use it to describe sounds as different as what you have from one sub-genre to the next.

Therefore Shinedown is rock.

See you could have easily avoided this.

-Omi

First, I said Post-Grunge, not Grunge. Second, as a musician, yes, they are.

And as a fan of their work and someone who worked in the field of music, no they aren't

 

-Omi

 

As a fan of their work and someone who makes music, yes, they are.

Shinedown is rock and roll. If you can't admit that, you are no practitioner of music.

 

-Omi

 

If you can't tell the difference between Rock, Post-Grunge and Metal, then I assume your work in music was for the deaf.

Rock is a large category that breaks down into that. That is why you hear Nirvana, GNR, and the Who on the same rock radio stations. Just like you hear DMX, Run DMC, and Sir Mixalot on Rap stations.

 

And at least I was on the radio. Two radio stations that is.

 

-Omi

 

And that is exactly why I avoid using Rock as a genre when I can and use the sub-genres now. There are so many sub-genres, that Rock is too big a blanket term for me to willingly use it to describe sounds as different as what you have from one sub-genre to the next.

Therefore Shinedown is rock.

 

See you could have easily avoided this.

 

-Omi

And again, I refuse to call them, or really anyone nowadays rock due to the amount of different sounds there are. It's too wide a term.

First, I said Post-Grunge, not Grunge. Second, as a musician, yes, they are.

And as a fan of their work and someone who worked in the field of music, no they aren't

 

-Omi

 

As a fan of their work and someone who makes music, yes, they are.

Shinedown is rock and roll. If you can't admit that, you are no practitioner of music.

 

-Omi

 

If you can't tell the difference between Rock, Post-Grunge and Metal, then I assume your work in music was for the deaf.

Rock is a large category that breaks down into that. That is why you hear Nirvana, GNR, and the Who on the same rock radio stations. Just like you hear DMX, Run DMC, and Sir Mixalot on Rap stations.

 

And at least I was on the radio. Two radio stations that is.

 

-Omi

 

And that is exactly why I avoid using Rock as a genre when I can and use the sub-genres now. There are so many sub-genres, that Rock is too big a blanket term for me to willingly use it to describe sounds as different as what you have from one sub-genre to the next.

Therefore Shinedown is rock.

 

See you could have easily avoided this.

 

-Omi

 

And again, I refuse to call them, or really anyone nowadays rock due to the amount of different sounds there are. It's too wide a term.

Then you aren't a musician. Too wide of a term.

-Omi

First, I said Post-Grunge, not Grunge. Second, as a musician, yes, they are.

And as a fan of their work and someone who worked in the field of music, no they aren't

 

-Omi

 

As a fan of their work and someone who makes music, yes, they are.

Shinedown is rock and roll. If you can't admit that, you are no practitioner of music.

 

-Omi

 

If you can't tell the difference between Rock, Post-Grunge and Metal, then I assume your work in music was for the deaf.

Rock is a large category that breaks down into that. That is why you hear Nirvana, GNR, and the Who on the same rock radio stations. Just like you hear DMX, Run DMC, and Sir Mixalot on Rap stations.

 

And at least I was on the radio. Two radio stations that is.

 

-Omi

 

And that is exactly why I avoid using Rock as a genre when I can and use the sub-genres now. There are so many sub-genres, that Rock is too big a blanket term for me to willingly use it to describe sounds as different as what you have from one sub-genre to the next.

Therefore Shinedown is rock.

 

See you could have easily avoided this.

 

-Omi

 

And again, I refuse to call them, or really anyone nowadays rock due to the amount of different sounds there are. It's too wide a term.

Then you aren't a musician. Too wide of a term.

 

-Omi

I don't actually consider myself a musician to be honest. I consider myself a deranged lunatic who makes odd and interesting noises with a slab of alder with metal strings pulled taught over it that writes words set to a rhythm.

First, I said Post-Grunge, not Grunge. Second, as a musician, yes, they are.

And as a fan of their work and someone who worked in the field of music, no they aren't

 

-Omi

 

As a fan of their work and someone who makes music, yes, they are.

Shinedown is rock and roll. If you can't admit that, you are no practitioner of music.

 

-Omi

 

If you can't tell the difference between Rock, Post-Grunge and Metal, then I assume your work in music was for the deaf.

Rock is a large category that breaks down into that. That is why you hear Nirvana, GNR, and the Who on the same rock radio stations. Just like you hear DMX, Run DMC, and Sir Mixalot on Rap stations.

 

And at least I was on the radio. Two radio stations that is.

 

-Omi

 

And that is exactly why I avoid using Rock as a genre when I can and use the sub-genres now. There are so many sub-genres, that Rock is too big a blanket term for me to willingly use it to describe sounds as different as what you have from one sub-genre to the next.

Therefore Shinedown is rock.

 

See you could have easily avoided this.

 

-Omi

 

And again, I refuse to call them, or really anyone nowadays rock due to the amount of different sounds there are. It's too wide a term.

Then you aren't a musician. Too wide of a term.

 

-Omi

 

I don't actually consider myself a musician to be honest. I consider myself a deranged lunatic who makes odd and interesting noises with a slab of alder with metal strings pulled taught over it that writes words set to a rhythm.

Touche.

-Omi

First, I said Post-Grunge, not Grunge. Second, as a musician, yes, they are.

And as a fan of their work and someone who worked in the field of music, no they aren't

 

-Omi

 

As a fan of their work and someone who makes music, yes, they are.

Shinedown is rock and roll. If you can't admit that, you are no practitioner of music.

 

-Omi

 

If you can't tell the difference between Rock, Post-Grunge and Metal, then I assume your work in music was for the deaf.

Rock is a large category that breaks down into that. That is why you hear Nirvana, GNR, and the Who on the same rock radio stations. Just like you hear DMX, Run DMC, and Sir Mixalot on Rap stations.

 

And at least I was on the radio. Two radio stations that is.

 

-Omi

 

And that is exactly why I avoid using Rock as a genre when I can and use the sub-genres now. There are so many sub-genres, that Rock is too big a blanket term for me to willingly use it to describe sounds as different as what you have from one sub-genre to the next.

Therefore Shinedown is rock.

 

See you could have easily avoided this.

 

-Omi

 

And again, I refuse to call them, or really anyone nowadays rock due to the amount of different sounds there are. It's too wide a term.

Then you aren't a musician. Too wide of a term.

 

-Omi

 

I don't actually consider myself a musician to be honest. I consider myself a deranged lunatic who makes odd and interesting noises with a slab of alder with metal strings pulled taught over it that writes words set to a rhythm.

Touche.

 

-Omi

I seem to remember reading somewhere that old R&B and new R&B are actually different genres altogether. I presume they just decided to use R&B as a name for the new style because they couldn't be bothered to come up with a brand new genre name.

If you can't tell the difference between Rock, Post-Grunge and Metal, then I assume your work in music was for the deaf.

If Omi worked for a radio station playing music for the deaf he is more awesome than you could ever hope to be.

Queens of the Stone Age rules.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that old R&B and new R&B are actually different genres altogether. I presume they just decided to use R&B as a name for the new style because they couldn't be bothered to come up with a brand new genre name.

 

Huh. Well, that changes things...I think(?)...

If you can't tell the difference between Rock, Post-Grunge and Metal, then I assume your work in music was for the deaf.

 

If Omi worked for a radio station playing music for the deaf he is more awesome than you could ever hope to be.

 

Queens of the Stone Age rules.

XD Touche.