Article 120: Undecided. This seems like a power a Toa would find immoral, so I'm not sure if it makes sense for a Matoran tribe to wield it. I'll say aye to this if this tribe didn't occur naturally and was brought to this state of association with Molecular Disruption after creation as some other tribe or tribes (which would fit into the fact that the tribe is referred to as rare).

 

Article 121: Nay, Sleep seems to be a very limited power for an element. It seems all a proposed Toa of Sleep could do would be to induce various levels of drowsiness in a target or wake up/boost the energy of a target, which doesn't seem nearly as versatile as other elements.

 

Auserv-

 

I'd like to first point out that there are Elements such as 'Hunger' and 'Fear' within the C.I.R.C.L.E. Universe. If those aren't Elements found immoral by most, I don't know what is. Also, this tribe is rare because of an action by a major faction. However, this is revealed in a short story of mine, so I wish not to tell what.

 

Sleep is a powerful thing. Hibernation is sleep. Besides, it isn't how powerful your element is, it matters how you use it. Also, I've been thinking about the boost/lower energy of a target. But I'm not sure if that would fall under the jurisdiction of a Toa of Energy, or if they only deal with Kinetic Energy.

True - I disagree with those elements as well, but if I remember correctly most of them were stated to have come into being due to abnormal circumstances. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong there. Anyway, I don't see how hard it would be to say that the Molecular Disruption Matoran were not intended to be created in that state - that fact never has to be brought up in-story but you could say it here just for the sake of getting more votes. Just a suggestion, in any case.

As for Sleep, I'm beginning to reconsider my vote on that. Boosting the energy of a target, in my opinion, would be done through something like causing them to rapidly go through sleep cycles to rest them and thus energize them. Lowering it would be as simple as making them drowsy without putting them all the way to sleep. Again, just my suggestions.

EDIT: Wow, a lot of comments in the time it took me to type that one. My earlier suspicions about the elements I disagreed with were confirmed by Ausar and it seems you two have come to a resolution on that now.

120:

Nay. I'm going to agree with Auserv here: it seems immoral for a Toa, so I dont see a point (unless it isnt naturally occurring).

121:

Aye. It doesnt seem too powerful or immoral, so I dont see a problem with it.

122:

Nay. I dont like other species being able to master an element, especially not when they can have more mastery than, say, Gali.

123:

Aye. It doesnt seem unreasonable, even if some of the effects can be achieved with other masks.

124:

Aye, if only because it's only rumored to exist.

125:

Aye. This seems useful in many situations!

126:

Nay. I'm going to agree with Auserv again; it seems redundant and just a little too powerful for my tastes.

Auserv-

You are correct in thinking that Elements such as 'Hunger' and 'Fear' are not naturally occuring. As for Molecular Disruption, well, maybe I can change bits out of the story to make them 'accidents'.

I like the idea of rapid sleep cycles. In this fashion, a Toa of Sleep, or any target, wouldn't need to let their guard down for too long.

One (hopefully) last question. How fast can this be achieved by a Toa of Energy. One that is talented in their element.

I'd say it would take a concentrated thirty to sixty seconds of direct physical contact by a Toa of Energy, with the lower estimate inducing grogginess and the higher estimate leading to short-lived slumber. However, it should be noted that the effects would not be as long lasting by any means as a prospective Toa of Sleep's abilities.

As far as my actual ballot goes I vote "NAY" on Article 120 because, from what I could find on BS01, I believe that "Molecular Disruption" is simply a subdivision of the already established Element "Disintegration" since both simply work to dissolve inorganic material and therefore, if it's defeated, it will be added to the Elemental Tribal List as such.

However, I vote "AYE" on Article 121 because I don't feel that morality plays a significant role in prospective Elements, and although the power may be limited that doesn't mean that it can't be effective, furthermore the energy is distinct from all other preexisting Tribes.

Next, I tentatively vote "AYE" on Article 122, assuming that these beings cannot create Water themselves.

Also, I vote "AYE" on Articles 123, 124, & 125. I would like to point out that a prospective Keemaru is basically a "Staff of Confusion" in mask form. In terms of the prospective Meteo, I vote in favor of it here because it's only a rumor. If we're talking about an actual mask, well that's a whole other debate entirely. As for the prospective Orrtaka, I see no reason to oppose it.

Lastly, I vote "NAY" on Article 126, mostly because of the description being "Life Force" and the confusion that has caused with it being compared to an Ignika resurrection, which is very much not the same thing as creating a zombie, otherwise I like the idea of a Legendary Anti-Ignika of sorts.

One (hopefully) last question. How fast can this be achieved by a Toa of Energy. One that is talented in their element.

I'd say it would take a concentrated thirty to sixty seconds of direct physical contact by a Toa of Energy, with the lower estimate inducing grogginess and the higher estimate leading to short-lived slumber. However, it should be noted that the effects would not be as long lasting by any means as a prospective Toa of Sleep's abilities.

 

As far as my actual ballot goes I'm "Undecided" on Article 120 because I'm pondering the differences and similarities involved between "Molecular Disruption" and "Disintegration".

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Moecular Disruption doesn't nessecarily have to mean dispersing molecules, only that the Toa would disrupt the natural state of the molecules, thus affecting the object by casing it to lose it's density, and drift apart, or to crush molecules together so as to shrink the object, to name a few powers.. It can go many ways, unlike with disintigration, which only disperses molecules.

TT

One (hopefully) last question. How fast can this be achieved by a Toa of Energy. One that is talented in their element.

I'd say it would take a concentrated thirty to sixty seconds of direct physical contact by a Toa of Energy, with the lower estimate inducing grogginess and the higher estimate leading to short-lived slumber. However, it should be noted that the effects would not be as long lasting by any means as a prospective Toa of Sleep's abilities.

 

As far as my actual ballot goes I'm "Undecided" on Article 120 because I'm pondering the differences and similarities involved between "Molecular Disruption" and "Disintegration".

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Moecular Disruption doesn't nessecarily have to mean dispersing molecules, only that the Toa would disrupt the natural state of the molecules, thus affecting the object by casing it to lose it's density, and drift apart, or to crush molecules together so as to shrink the object, to name a few powers.. It can go many ways, unlike with disintigration, which only disperses molecules.

 

 

TT

Does this mean that these Toa could also change the state of matter it is in? Solid... Liquid... Gas?

Just asking. 8)

-Em

120: Aye.

121: Aye, awesome ^.^

122: Aye.

123: Aye. Seems suitable for a mask power.

124: Nay, I don't see the need for this mask when it's pretty much an amplified form of an existing Kanohi

125: Aye.

126: Undecided. The power seems to be somewhat... iffy, much like a Mask of Life but not as potent, and not really serving much of a purpose if all the revived being would do is whatever the basic instinct is.

123: Nay. Between the Kanohi Suletu, Komau, and Honiara all of this mask's powers can already be accomplished.

Tell me, would you really want to switch back and forth between three different masks during a heated confrontation?

124: I'm going to have to say Nay on this one too, as it being equal to 100 Toa of Weather is a bit excessive.

The wording of the proposal has been revised.

Article 124-NAY The weather control I am okay with, but the control over seismic events as well gives the mask an almost great spirit like power over all of nature itself. If the power were toned down quite a bit it would be much better.

It has indeed been toned down.

Article 124- Undecided. The idea is pretty cool, but it seems overpowered.

Rumors tend to often take on an absurd life of their own.

124: Nay, I don't see the need for this mask when it's pretty much an amplified form of an existing Kanohi

Keep in mind that Article 124 is really only concerned with the existence of a rumor, not with the existence of the rumored mask itself.

Nay to Article 120. Unfortunetly, I'm the kind of person that likes to keep the Rahkshi and Toa abilities separate.

Nay to Article 121. For same reason as above.

Aye to Article 122. I'm guessing since it says 'Toa of Water', it is not reffering to Toa Nuva (more specifically, Gali Nuva) , unless I am mistaken.

Aye to Article 123. I actually might use this one in my Epic, if I ever start it.

Aye to Article 124. There should be more myths and rumours in the BIONICLE Universe, since it gives more depth to culture and such.

Aye to Article 125

Aye to Article 126

One (hopefully) last question. How fast can this be achieved by a Toa of Energy. One that is talented in their element.

I'd say it would take a concentrated thirty to sixty seconds of direct physical contact by a Toa of Energy, with the lower estimate inducing grogginess and the higher estimate leading to short-lived slumber. However, it should be noted that the effects would not be as long lasting by any means as a prospective Toa of Sleep's abilities.

 

As far as my actual ballot goes I'm "Undecided" on Article 120 because I'm pondering the differences and similarities involved between "Molecular Disruption" and "Disintegration".

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Moecular Disruption doesn't nessecarily have to mean dispersing molecules, only that the Toa would disrupt the natural state of the molecules, thus affecting the object by casing it to lose it's density, and drift apart, or to crush molecules together so as to shrink the object, to name a few powers.. It can go many ways, unlike with disintigration, which only disperses molecules.

 

 

TT

 

Does this mean that these Toa could also change the state of matter it is in? Solid... Liquid... Gas?

 

Just asking. 8)

 

 

-Em

Yep. But changing the state of matter it is in takes a lot of energy, although it varies on the object.

Zorrakh- Any way of persuading you?

Probably not. Sorry. If you need an expanation from me as to why, just let me know.

They're probably going to pass, anyways, so you do not need to worry.

At this point, I've come to realize my Articles are faltering, so I will let them lie, and return later with revised editions. Until then, late nature takes it course on these. If they fail, so be it. If they succeed, then so be it they will stay as is. Anyhow ,the Regalin was not actually going to make a physical appearance in "The Outbreak", rather its appearance would be something of a surprise to most. So, I will simply leave them as is.

-Zee

"NAY" to Article 120. Same as the Element, "Disintegration."

"NAY" to Article 121. This only affects living things. A Toa of Sleep would be useless against inanimate objects. A Toa of Energy would be far more effective.

"AYE" on Article 122. I note the sole use of the words "control" and "influence," meaning that the Rayluhrs cannot create water, giving Toa of Water an advantage in combat.

"AYE" to Article 123. Though I am somewhat hesitant to approve of this, the fact that the Vahki Keerakh wielded this power has me convinced.

"AYE" to Article 124. Leaning towards "NAY." I am against this because Legendary Masks cannot exist at lower power levels and must contain a fundamental universal force, but I am in support of it because the Article states that its existence is only a rumor.

"NAY" to Article 125. A Kanohi Calix could be used to accomplish the same thing.

"NAY" to Article 126. Zombies? As a mask power, both the Tryna and the Ignika are capable of doing this. I'm not sure why you would want this as a mask power. Not when a creature capable of doing this would be far more interesting.

"UNDECIDED" on Article 120. May I ask what purpose would be served by having this as an Element?

"UNDECIDED" on Article 121. Same as above.

I think they both sound creative and unique as elements.

"UNDECIDED" on Article 120. May I ask what purpose would be served by having this as an Element?

"UNDECIDED" on Article 121. Same as above.

 

I think they both sound creative and unique as elements.

I'd love to have a Toa of Sleep in any Toa Team I was a part of!

TT

I think they both sound creative and unique as elements.

"Creative" is not gonna cut it for me. We have 40 other Elements. You're telling me that there is not one of those Elements that will work for what you need?

I think they both sound creative and unique as elements.

"Creative" is not gonna cut it for me. We have 40 other Elements. You're telling me that there is not one of those Elements that will work for what you need?

I'm saying that these two Elements are featured in my story, and I would like to make them known and official. And, with these being two unique elements, I think other C.I.R.C.L.E. Members could have fun with them.

Actually Tavlak, I like the way you think. Yes, the Mask of atmospheric Control is a rumor ,and is not slated to my knowledge In any story. It was simply meant as a drive for a Short Story and possible Epic if it had success. So i hope that helps with any further questions. If someone wants it to exist, PM me.

-Zee

"UNDECIDED" on Article 125. Would it be possible for a Calix wearer to accomplish the same thing?

A Calix wielder would probably be able to dodge my theoretical punch to the chest, and dodge falling debris in an earthquake, however, a perspective Orrtaka would alow a certain kind of bypass through the stated scenarios', so, to an extent, yes.

TT

Aye to all but 126.

120&121:Aye. There are more Matoran tribes than have been shown.

122:Aye

123:Aye

124:Aye

125:Aye

126:Aye. It seems like a more powerful version of the Tryna, but the Kadin is like a more powerful version of the Miru (in my opinion).

120 - Nay, the proposer wants it vetoed so... you know

121 - Aye, its good to have more tribes.

122 - Aye, new species are welcomed by me.

123 - Aye, sounds reasonable.

124 - Aye, if its a rumour its a good idea. not to sure if id vote Aye if it was real though.

125 - Aye, I have no reason to apose this article.

126 - Aye, I think this might be important to "the Outbreak"

Toa Zahaku

I've changed my votes on Article 120, Article 121, and Article 123 all to "aye" from "undecided", "nay", and "undecided" respectively.

As far as my actual ballot goes I vote "NAY" on Article 120 because, from what I could find on BS01, I believe that "Molecular Disruption" is simply a subdivision of the already established Element "Disintegration" since both simply work to dissolve inorganic material.

 

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I'm fine if you "VETO" Article 120, I guess I proposed that before I thought it through.