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Voting For C. I. R. C. L. E. Articles 119a, & 127-134


Toa_Ausar

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Confederated Inter-Related Collaborative League of Epics

 

Once again I'd like to welcome everyone, now straight to more business.

 

The revised one-hundred-nineteenth article proposed by Toa_Ausar, Tohunga Tahnok & --V-- is as follows:

Toa_Ausar, Tohunga Tahnok, and --V-- hereby propose that within "The C.I.R.C.L.E. Universe" there exist extremely rare "Gahngesian Communications Systems" (gahn-JEE-zhuhn kah-myoo-nih-KAY-shuhn SISS-tuhms), also known as "GahnComms" (GAHN-kahms). As their name suggests, these devices were invented by a Makuta named Gahnges and are typically utilized by the top lieutenants and other high-ranking servants of the Brotherhood of Makuta to converse with one another over long distances. Furthermore, each current module allows for the rapid relay of information via a keypad uplink and is outfitted with a built in positioning system. On occasion Makuta themselves even utilize these devices to initiate transference of large amounts of data or conduct multipersonal communications that they are otherwise unable to easily perform via their innate Telepathic abilities.

 

Now, feel free to discuss this proposal in this thread and then vote.

 

All in favor vote "AYE".

 

All opposed vote "NAY".

 

The one-hundred-twenty-seventh article proposed by Kohila & Toa_Ausar is as follows:

Kohila and Toa_Ausar hereby propose that within "The C.I.R.C.L.E. Universe" the Makuta Miserix be henceforth associated as the Makuta of Destral.

 

Furthermore, he shall be considered the overseer of said region until such time as a Canon assignment is revealed.

 

Now, feel free to discuss this proposal in this thread and then vote.

 

All in favor vote "AYE".

 

All opposed vote "NAY".

 

The one-hundred-twenty-eighth article proposed by Tohunga Tahnok is as follows:

Tohunga Tahnok hereby proposes that within "The C.I.R.C.L.E. Universe" the Makuta of the western region of the Southern Continent is a being named Gahnges (GAHN-jees) who is extremely adept with tools, specifically using them to design vehicles and other devices for the Brotherhood of Makuta. Furthermore, Gahnges is at present the Transportation Chief for the Brotherhood as well, and shall remain as the overseer of said region until such time as a Canon Makuta's name for this assignment is revealed.

 

Now, feel free to discuss this proposal in this thread and then vote.

 

All in favor vote "AYE".

 

All opposed vote "NAY".

 

The one-hundred-twenty-ninth article proposed by Kohila is as follows:

Kohila hereby proposes that within "The C.I.R.C.L.E. Universe" there resides an extremely small and isolated faction of Matoran known as the "Meiu" (MYE-oo) that have devoted their lives to the research of Elemental Power within a portion of an abandoned Temple of the Great Spirit Mata Nui. Although they have built many different devices capable of manipulating Elemental Energy in various ways, they have thus far failed to invent specifically what it was that they are seeking.

 

Now, feel free to discuss this proposal in this thread and then vote.

 

All in favor vote "AYE".

 

All opposed vote "NAY".

 

The one-hundred-thirtieth article proposed by Kohila is as follows:

Kohila hereby proposes that within "The C.I.R.C.L.E. Universe" there existed a one-of-a-kind Kanohi known as the Vahualsi (vah-hoo-AHL-see), the Legendary Great Mask of Time Travel, for an extremely brief period of time before being promptly used and destroyed.

 

As chance would have it though, Quozek, the Makuta of Tiuarga Nui, inadvertently witnessed the single instance that this Kanohi was utilized and quickly reported his findings to the rest of the Brotherhood of Makuta. This event later served as significant inspiration for Teridax as he requested that a Legendary Mask of Time be crafted, in hopes that it would help speed his plan to enslave the Matoran of Metru Nui.

 

Now, feel free to discuss this proposal in this thread and then vote.

 

All in favor vote "AYE".

 

All opposed vote "NAY".

 

The one-hundred-thirty-first article proposed by Ballom is as follows:

Ballom hereby proposes that within "The C.I.R.C.L.E. Universe" there exists a one-of-a-kind Kanohi known as the Zlinj (ZLINNJ), the Great Mask of Nature. Amongst other things this mysterious mask allows the user to see all that life is, from the first moment that it was created to the end of the user's own existence, through the eyes of the surrounding environment itself. Furthermore, with great concentration it also grants the user the ability to summon the forces of Nature such as Plants, Rahi, etc. willingly to their aid.

 

This Kanohi is an immensely powerful mask forged from black metal and red volcanic rock by Turaga Sāh Atemu on the Isle of Kemet Nui. The Zlinj was created with channels inside it, through which small quantities of molten Protodermis continue to flow. It was taken to the Isle of Terra Nui in the time before time, affixed to the face of the Great Spirit Mata Nui fountain statue it was shipped with. There it remained, unbeknownst to Turaga Sāh Akito, yet under his watchful eye for safekeeping, until the villainous Makuta of Shakaz, known only as "The Dark Lord", and his vile band of Sharaku came looking for it some 44,400 years later.

 

Now, feel free to discuss this proposal in this thread and then vote.

 

All in favor vote "AYE".

 

All opposed vote "NAY".

 

The one-hundred-thirty-second article proposed by Ballom is as follows:

Ballom hereby proposes that within "The C.I.R.C.L.E. Universe" there exists a one-of-a-kind Kanohi known as the Crystal Zlinj. This is the sister mask of the Great Zlinj and possesses mysterious powers that are currently unknown, however, when worn by a Toa, it is powerless.

 

It appeared mysteriously in the depths of an abandoned ore mine beneath the Isle of Terra Nui shortly after the arrival of the true Zlinj. It is visually similar to the Great Zlinj, only the Crystal Zlinj is made from a single piece of translucent green crystalline Protodermis, which pulses periodically.

 

Now, feel free to discuss this proposal in this thread and then vote.

 

All in favor vote "AYE".

 

All opposed vote "NAY".

 

The one-hundred-thirty-third article proposed by Toa_Ausar is as follows:

Toa_Ausar hereby proposes that within "The C.I.R.C.L.E. Universe" the word "Sepţiu" (sehp-ZHEE-oo) shall henceforth be considered a noun in the Matoran language meaning "those who are saving destiny".

 

Now, feel free to discuss this proposal in this thread and then vote.

 

All in favor vote "AYE".

 

All opposed vote "NAY".

 

The one-hundred-thirty-fourth article proposed by Ballom is as follows:

Ballom hereby proposes that within "The C.I.R.C.L.E. Universe" there existed seven unique artifacts known as "Terra Nui Keystones" found in various colors. One was a massive, flat, shrine-like piece with sockets for the other six, which fit securely together to form a six-sided pyramid thereon. When collected upon the top of Mount Tongaru, the "Terra Nui Keystones" pointed the way to the Crystal Zlinj.

 

Years later, the "Terra Nui Keystones" shattered, releasing beings that the Matoran dubbed "The Quntaino". Currently, no one knows how these organic beings arose from what was thought to be inorganic stone and the origins of the "Terra Nui Keystones" themselves remain unknown at this time.

 

Now, feel free to discuss this proposal in this thread and then vote.

 

All in favor vote "AYE".

 

All opposed vote "NAY".

 

And with that said, I open this thread up for discussion on the various articles for the proposed enhancement of our group structure and joint storyline.

 

Please be sure to vote on all nine articles in this thread.

 

Also, note that this discussion and the corresponding voting will end at 1200 PST (Noon in the Pacific Time Zone) on Monday, September 7th, 2009 provided at least 2/3 of C.I.R.C.L.E. members have voted at that point.

 

Lastly, the C.I.R.C.L.E. members will be notified of the results via the C.I.R.C.L.E. Results Overview & Discussion thread, however, when there are other blog threads where authors can vote on the proposals surrounding the details of C.I.R.C.L.E., that communication will still happen via PM.

 

Thanks.

 

UPDATE: Article 119a has passed with a total of "SEVENTEEN AYE VOTES TO TWO NAY VOTES", also

Articles 127 & 128 have both passed with a total of "EIGHTEEN AYE VOTES TO ONE NAY VOTE" each, next

Article 129 has passed via "UNANIMOUS DECISION", plus

Article 130 has passed with a total of "TWELVE AYE VOTES TO SEVEN NAY VOTES", furthermore

Articles 131 & 132 have both passed with a total of "EIGHTEEN AYE VOTES TO ONE NAY VOTE" each, meanwhile

Articles 133 & 134 have both passed via "UNANIMOUS DECISION" and the polls are now closed.

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129- AYE. As long as we're talking about the Great Temple on Metru-Nui.

Actually, Article 129 has nothing to do with the Island City of Metru Nui whatsoever. :uhuh:

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Ah. I see. Well, after reading it over again, my vote remains AYE.

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Alright, since I see everyone's response to the fate of the Vahualsi, I'll change what happened; Turaga Uoas Kulia used the Kanohi to open a time rift to a point in time where that part of the Universe was a maelstorm of energy, she tossed the Kanohi in and for a split second saw the Kanohi ultimately ripped apart, molecule by molecule.

 

I hope this is better. :unsure:

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Alright, since I see everyone's response to the fate of the Vahualsi, I'll change what happened; Turaga Uoas Kulia used the Kanohi to open a time rift to a point in time where that part of the Universe was a maelstorm of energy, she tossed the Kanohi in and for a split second saw the Kanohi ultimately ripped apart, molecule by molecule.

 

I hope this is better. :unsure:

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Well, that pretty much guarantees my "NAY" vote. :P

 

Like I said on my ballot, a Legendary Kanohi of any sort cannot simply be destroyed without catastrophic repercussions.

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I hope that this clears things up for everyone and please do reconsider your votes. :begging:

If anything, that made me even more confused. :wacko: I just want to know why Vrail and Vayho wanted to go back in time.

 

On a related note, Legendary Kanohi are also difficult to control, even for a Makuta. And here you're saying that a Turaga wielded this mask this very little problem.

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I just want to know why Vrail and Vayho wanted to go back in time.

 

On a related note, Legendary Kanohi are also difficult to control, even for a Makuta. And here you're saying that a Turaga wielded this mask this very little problem.

It is my understanding that Vrail was really just looking for a place to run where the Brotherhood, who had marked him for death for killing Tarel, could never find him, meanwhile Vayho simply wanted to be with Vrail no matter where he ran. ;)

 

As for your second point, I can't answer for how we're expected to believe Kulia pulled it off. :notsure:

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So they go back in time where they rename themselves and become Turaga in an attempt to hide.

 

Ok, a somewhat lack-luster use of the power, and it doesn't affect the time-stream as far as I can tell, that's good. But I still don't like the idea of time travel in BIONICLE.

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Aye to all.

 

All of the Makuta stuff sounds good. The word is fine. The Kanohi all sound like good ideas, as do any other items or groups.

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Article 119a: Aye; Bionicle could use some Laptops. May I recommend HP? :P

 

Article 127: Aye, as I have no problem to having the Makuta, well... put in their place, so-to-speak.

 

Article 128: Aye, as I again have no problem to having the Makuta named and Storyline Added

 

Article 129: Aye. Ooh... very Asgard-y. ... What? No one watches Stargate?

 

Article 130: Aye. And, per Ausar's reasoning, could it be said that the reprocussions were that the barrier between this dimension and others becoming thinner. :shrugs:

 

Article 131: Aye; You all seem to like the idea of Legendary Kanohi, don't you?

 

Article 132: Aye; Ballom, I applaud you for making a change to the Legendary Kanohi idea, adding a sister mask and all.

 

Article 133: Aye, more vocab means more backgrund, which I like.

 

Article 134: Aye; The Stones sound like eggs, don't they? :???:

 

 

-Em

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Aye to all.

 

All of the Makuta stuff sounds good. The word is fine. The Kanohi all sound like good ideas, as do any other items or groups.

I know I probably sound like a scratched CD, but please no more ballots that say "I vote such-and-such on all articles". :uhuh:

 

As I stated in the other thread, from this point forward I will consider all such comments as null and void. Furthermore I would like to see everyone place article numbers alongside their votes as well.

 

Please don't make me have to write this into the bylaws. :begging:

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Article 119a: Aye, the changes here are reasonable.

 

Article 127-128: Aye, I have no problem with either of these.

 

Article 129: Aye, sounds like it has potential for a good story.

 

Article 130: Undecided. I'd like to make a suggestion to Kohila and if he can confirm my suggestion as true, I'll give this my approval. Since a lot of people have said nay to this on the grounds that there is no time travel in Bionicle and several more are saying nay due to the fact that its destruction had no cataclysmic effects, how about we kill two birds with one stone and say that the cataclysmic effects of its destruction are why time travel is impossible in this universe? In other words, I'm proposing that the destruction of the mask caused the universe to be locked in time, and while creating, say, a time machine, may have been possible before, now time travel has been rendered physically impossible by the effects of this mask's destruction. Aye, see my comment below.

 

Article 131: Undecided; what would happen if it was damaged or destroyed? Nay, see my comment below.

 

Article 132: Undecided; can it really be called a Kanohi? As far as I can tell, it's a crystal in the shape of a Kanohi. It has powers, but these don't seem to function like a Kanohi does, so I'm not sure it can be classified as such. Nay, see my comment below.

 

Article 133: Aye.

 

Article 134: Aye, sounds intriguing.

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I vote "AYE" on Article 119a, not to mention, it gets my sign of approval for very admirable emendations.

 

I vote "AYE" on Articles 127, and 128. None of these names or placements conflict with storyline.

 

I vote "AYE" on Article 129, it seems to be both reasonable and possibly, very imperative to your story.

 

I vote "NAY" on Article 130. I like the idea of a Legendary Kanohi of Time Travel, but as Ausar aforementioned, no Kanohi with that much caliber could be destroyed without severe repercussions.

 

I vote "AYE" on Articles 131-134. Not only are the stated items most likely vital to the story, but I have no bounds to protest them.

 

-Zee

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119a: Nay. Like many users argued in the first proposal of the article, why couldn't the Makuta simply use their telepathy to communicate? The "GPS" type thing seems a bit superfluous as well, and doesn't seem like it would fit into the canon well, even though these are very technologically advanced beings :notsure:

127: Aye.

128: Aye.

129: Aye.

130: Aye, although I think this should be addressed as a "one-of a kind" or "unique" Kanohi rather than "Legendary", seeing as it doesn't represent a legendary element such as Time or Life.

131: Aye, but see my argument in Article 130 for the same reason.

132: Aye.

133: Aye.

134: Aye.

~cap'n

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Article 131: Undecided; what would happen if it was damaged or destroyed?

 

Article 132: Undecided; can it really be called a Kanohi? As far as I can tell, it's a crystal in the shape of a Kanohi. It has powers, but these don't seem to function like a Kanohi does, so I'm not sure it can be classified as such.

The Zlinj isn't like the Vahi or Ignika, if it were damaged/destroyed nothing bad would happen, really.

 

And I think the Crystal Zlinj is still a Kanohi. Why wouldn't it be?

 

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Article 131: Undecided; what would happen if it was damaged or destroyed?

 

Article 132: Undecided; can it really be called a Kanohi? As far as I can tell, it's a crystal in the shape of a Kanohi. It has powers, but these don't seem to function like a Kanohi does, so I'm not sure it can be classified as such.

The Zlinj isn't like the Vahi or Ignika, if it were damaged/destroyed nothing bad would happen, really.

 

And I think the Crystal Zlinj is still a Kanohi. Why wouldn't it be?

 

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If I can't get away with my Legendary Kanohi causing no negative side effects when damaged/destroyed, then neither can you. :lol:

 

Also, I'll take Auserv up on his suggestion. Seems rather nice, actually. :rolleyes:

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Article 130: Undecided. I'd like to make a suggestion to Kohila and if he can confirm my suggestion as true, I'll give this my approval. Since a lot of people have said nay to this on the grounds that there is no time travel in Bionicle and several more are saying nay due to the fact that its destruction had no cataclysmic effects, how about we kill two birds with one stone and say that the cataclysmic effects of its destruction are why time travel is impossible in this universe? In other words, I'm proposing that the destruction of the mask caused the universe to be locked in time, and while creating, say, a time machine, may have been possible before, now time travel has been rendered physically impossible by the effects of this mask's destruction.

The only problem with that is that would render Bitil's Mohtrek useless.

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Article 131: Undecided; what would happen if it was damaged or destroyed?

As the secondary developer of the prospective Zlinj I would have to say it's my feeling that damage to said mask would have detrimental effects on all Rahi and Plant Life over a many mio radius, likely wiping out all rudimentary lifeforms at least in the Dome in which the damage occurred, if not over a much great area.

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Article 131: Undecided; what would happen if it was damaged or destroyed?

As the secondary developer of the prospective Zlinj I would have to say it's my feeling that damage to said mask would have detrimental effects on all Rahi and Plant Life over a many mio radius, likely wiping out all rudimentary lifeforms at least in the Dome in which the damage occurred, if not over a much great area.

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Absolutely not! Why would anything like that occur? Damage to the Zlinj will not have any ill effects even close to that.

 

~B~

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Well its not exactly a legendary Mask it it... more of a one of a kind. Just saying if Atemu could make one, theoretically so could any skilled Mask maker. So why would it have disastrous consequences?

 

Toa Zahaku

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Well Ballom, if you're insisting that the prospective Zlinj can be damaged or destroyed without any consequences, then it certainly cannot be called a Legendary Kanohi and therefore the Article must either be quickly revised before the deadline or I will be forced to prevent it from pass as it is currently written. Same goes for Kohilå 's prospective Vahualsi. :shrugs:

 

Also Zåhåku, that's like saying any skilled maskmaker could replicate the Kanohi Vahi since Vakama was capable of making it. :uhuh:

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But then again, Vakama could only make it with the great disks but if there were another set it would be certainly possible. Artahka made one in an alternate universe which means other beings can create a Vahi, providing they had the materials.

 

Toa Zahaku

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Okay, here's the deal with the Vahualsi:

 

Turaga Kulia sent the Kanohi back in time before the creation of the Matoran Universe, where it was destroyed. Since the Kanohi was destroyed outside of the MU, no repercussions were inflicted. ;)

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Okay, here's the deal with the Vahualsi:

 

Turaga Kulia sent the Kanohi back in time before the creation of the Matoran Universe, where it was destroyed. Since the Kanohi was destroyed outside of the MU, no repercussions were inflicted. ;)

A Legendary Mask, no matter which universe it's in, will unleash its power when destroyed. Just say that the Vahualsi is a one-of-a-kind mask found only in Great form and be done with it. That way, there are no repercussions for its destruction.

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