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A Question To Those Not Named Zakitano


LewaLew

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...since he already answered and gave me the idea to ask the question.

 

In entertainment, such as movies and TV shows and LEGO themes, can anything truly be better, or are all things in entertainment equal, since everyone's tastes are different, and thus cannot be right or wrong?

 

From where I stand, the latter is true, purely through logic, not through my opinions. So, is my logic flawed, or does this make factual sense and simply getting tired of arguing?

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You can't discriminate against people in blog entries. :rolleyes:

 

Anyway, you misput my position on the issue. I didn't say they could truly be better; to quote myself:

Saying two things are equal is just as much of an opinion as saying something is better. In fact, one cannot pass any judgement on a form of entertainment without having an opinion, which is why people like me will step in as mediators if people start stepping into the realm of "this is fact."
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You can't discriminate against people in blog entries. :rolleyes:

 

Anyway, you misput my position on the issue. I didn't say they could truly be better; to quote myself:

Saying two things are equal is just as much of an opinion as saying something is better. In fact, one cannot pass any judgement on a form of entertainment without having an opinion, which is why people like me will step in as mediators if people start stepping into the realm of "this is fact."

 

Then Lowtuff needs to apologize to all the Octagons he has discriminated against. :P And I only said that because I already knew what you thought.

 

Well what does that make them? Better, worse, or equal? Nothing in entertainment can truly be better or worse, so that leaves equality. Just like no man can be better or worse than the other, we are all created equal, although we may like certain people more than the others.

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Well what does that make them? Better, worse, or equal? Nothing in entertainment can truly be better or worse, so that leaves equality. Just like no man can be better or worse than the other, we are all created equal, although we may like certain people more than the others.

Except that's implying that, outside of math/science, equality can be a fact, which it is not.

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I think that in all circumstances of valuable said information that we should or should not perhaps maybe do the preceding this sentence.

 

NORMAL ENGLISH PLEASE???

 

Then I will answer you.

 

Night Fury

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Well what does that make them? Better, worse, or equal? Nothing in entertainment can truly be better or worse, so that leaves equality. Just like no man can be better or worse than the other, we are all created equal, although we may like certain people more than the others.

Except that's implying that, outside of math/science, equality can be a fact, which it is not.

 

And why is it not?

 

I may have been unclear, but what I meant by equality was that no one is right or wrong in their opinions of entertainment. I'm not saying that their tastes are wrong because the things are equal. I'm saying that because they are equal, no one is right or wrong, as alpha123 has been saying.

 

EDIT: What, Shadix? This be not normal English? Doest thou not understand the burblings good lord Zakitano and I have been speaking? Shameful, ye knave! I demand that ye beg forgiveness and go to clean yonder castle stables.

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Well what does that make them? Better, worse, or equal? Nothing in entertainment can truly be better or worse, so that leaves equality. Just like no man can be better or worse than the other, we are all created equal, although we may like certain people more than the others.

Except that's implying that, outside of math/science, equality can be a fact, which it is not.

 

And why is it not?

 

I may have been unclear, but what I meant by equality was that no one is right or wrong in their opinions of entertainment. I'm not saying that their tastes are wrong because the things are equal. I'm saying that because they are equal, no one is right or wrong, as alpha123 has been saying.

Except by saying they are equal, you have just labelled both sides as incorrect, since neither said the two were equal. :)

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Well what does that make them? Better, worse, or equal? Nothing in entertainment can truly be better or worse, so that leaves equality. Just like no man can be better or worse than the other, we are all created equal, although we may like certain people more than the others.

Except that's implying that, outside of math/science, equality can be a fact, which it is not.

 

And why is it not?

 

I may have been unclear, but what I meant by equality was that no one is right or wrong in their opinions of entertainment. I'm not saying that their tastes are wrong because the things are equal. I'm saying that because they are equal, no one is right or wrong, as alpha123 has been saying.

Except by saying they are equal, you have just labelled both sides as incorrect, since neither said the two were equal. :)

Let me simplify this. I understand what you're saying. And you misunderstand me. I'm using the term 'equal' to say that nobody is right, and nobody is wrong.

 

Which is basically the same thing you're saying, only worded differently. Which makes me realize that it's pointless to argue over something we both agree on anyway. :P

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Glad to see we wasted a good amount of posts in both a topic and a blog post because of a misinterpretation. :P

Yeah. Too bad posts in the Voting Booth and in Blogs don't count towards your post count. :P

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I'd say things in entertainment are not all equal. People do have common tastes, though they can be VERY different. There are philosophies about this sort of thing, like aesthetics. Using only logic, I don't think it's possible to prove this though. Scientifically you might be able to.

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I'd say things in entertainment are not all equal. People do have common tastes, though they can be VERY different. There are philosophies about this sort of thing, like aesthetics. Using only logic, I don't think it's possible to prove this though. Scientifically you might be able to.

Yes, but not all people have common tastes. And since tastes cannot be right or wrong, it is impossible for us to determine whether anything is better or not in entertainment.

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Actually, I just thought of a good example. Mathematical proofs. A correct and elegant proof is always beautiful to people who understand it.

 

And if you say that that's not entertainment, I could always say that it's my opinion that mathematics is entertaining. :P

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Actually, I just thought of a good example. Mathematical proofs. A correct and elegant proof is always beautiful to people who understand it.

 

And if you say that that's not entertainment, I could always say that it's my opinion that mathematics is entertaining. :P

And it's my opinion that mathematics is a pain in the neck. I just got a headache doing some. ><

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:lol:

 

Yeah, I feel that way sometimes.

 

People do have common tastes. We hate the smell of manure for example (well, everyone except my neighbor....). That can't be proven with logic though. I think science of how our brains work could probably prove that we have common tastes, but since I'm not a neurologist I can't prove it. :shrugs:

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I could say it's my opinion that staring at manure is a form of entertainment.

In which case, I would carefully, and very warily walk away before your insanity became more apparent. :P

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In the world of entertainment, something is better if the percentage of people who like it is greater than the percentage that doesn't like it. In other words, it comes down to the opinion of the majority.

 

True, there's no way to truly determine that fact, but according to Zakatino's line of reasoning, someone could say that the movies Star Wars and The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie were equal, when they obviously aren't.

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In the world of entertainment, something is considered better if the percentage of people who like it is greater than the percentage that doesn't like it. In other words, it comes down to the opinion of the majority.

 

True, there's no way to truly determine that as fact, but according to LewaLew's line of reasoning, someone could say that the movies Star Wars and The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie were equal, when they obviously aren't.

Fixed for you. ;)

 

I was the one using the term equal--not Zakitano.

 

But if someone were to like Spongebob better than Star Wars, then for them, it's better, which is not a wrong opinion. Nor is that of those who like Star Wars and despise Spongebob wrong.

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In the world of entertainment, something is better if the percentage of people who like it is greater than the percentage that doesn't like it. In other words, it comes down to the opinion of the majority.

 

That's an appeal to false authority. Just because the general public believes something doesn't mean it's correct.

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In the world of entertainment, something is better if the percentage of people who like it is greater than the percentage that doesn't like it. In other words, it comes down to the opinion of the majority.

 

That's an appeal to false authority. Just because the general public believes something doesn't mean it's correct.

Yeah, but it works the opposite way too. Regardless of how large, intelligent, or influential the group of people who agree on one thing being better in entertainment, that doesn't make them correct.

 

Which also means that if someone is in the minority that hates HF with a vengeance, that that is their opinion just as much as the idea that Hero Factory is better is an opinion.

 

Methinks that this would all be solved if we took the hundreds of hours necessary to read everything the Bones Blog has to say on that subject. :P

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That's what I just said.

 

Back to common tastes, wouldn't everybody agreeing on something no longer make it an opinion but rather a fact?

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That's what I just said.

 

Back to common tastes, wouldn't everybody agreeing on something no longer make it an opinion but rather a fact?

I know, I was just mentioning that it worked both ways.

 

Theoretically, I guess so, but it is nearly impossible for everyone in existence to agree on one thing.

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This discussion has gotten way too philosophical. :P

 

Well, I was trying to think of a common taste for everybody. I still like the mathematical proofs thing.

 

Anyway, I gotta go outside and practice Tae Kwon Do.

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This discussion has gotten way too philosophical. :P

 

Well, I was trying to think of a common taste for everybody. I still like the mathematical proofs thing.

 

Anyway, I gotta go outside and practice Tae Kwon Do.

Yeah. Just remember, if you don't want me to start up something like that again, remember that HF being rotten is your opinion. State it as a fact, and I will hunt you down. :P

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