Krazyguy75

Whatever, this topic didn't work out. I might do this myself, but mostly all that is happening is arguments, so I'm leaving this topic. You can continue argument or whatever you desire, but I won't be in this thread anymore.

Well, this derailed quickly. Fine, I guess this wasn't popular. I put the line against arguing in because this was not intended to be a debate, it was intended to be a brainstorm for a new universe, hence the title. I'm not suggesting that we leave everything open, things can be explored but the point is that I wanted to keep everything more mystical. I didn't want everything to be explained (like why can't the red star be just that - a red star). If there is no explanation, that is pointless. If it has no mystery, it gets boring. Bionicle leaned more towards overexplanation, and I wished to tip the balance back towards the original, where things could be magical and not explained, where magic masks were magic masks, etc, etc. Hence me keeping it, if you read my post. Everyone calling Makuta Teridax "Makuta", the other Makuta never being mentioned, even people such as the Barraki (who fought the whole Brotherhood), the Shadowed One, Karzahni (the plant), etc, all calling him that, so on so on. If it was a species, it seemed no one knew of other members. Also, Makuta was constantly referred to as Mata Nui's evil brother, which given that Makuta became a species, seems kinda weird. Does that make the other Makuta Mata Nui's cousins? To all the people who said "Intelligent robots inhabiting a tropical island was a plot hole.": I totally get where you are coming from, but it's partially incorrect. Bionicle is the combination of biologic and mechanical elements to make beings. Therefore it makes just as little sense for semi-biological beings (albeit ones that look robotic) to be in Metru Nui, a place where every single thing is mechanical. Overall, they were semi-tribal biological robots with a hawaiian culture living with low tech levels on a tropical island. To all the people who said "I disagree with you rewriting the story and would rather keep it the same, because I liked the original story elements better.": Look, I understand this, but the point behind the thread was as stated: Create a new universe. You can stay in your old one, and that is fine by me. I just wanted to create a new one more in line with what I enjoyed, and if you do not wish to participate, you are under no obligation to. This is a radical new universe for people who wish it had been done differently, but there is no reason both universes cannot exist parallel to each other. Please, if you are going to post in this thread, please don't use this thread primarily to argue; this is for fun, not to start a debate.

Personally, I was never happy with the direction bionicle moved in the later years. The change from lore and legends to technology and describing the work of gods seemed like they were trying to hard to explain a universe where mysteries were keeping the world afloat. So, the point of this thread is to rewrite the universe based on the things they had established prior to Metru Nui. In particular, Makuta still lives (and is capable of having his own body), being that he is basically a god. Yes, I know you are all thinking "Not another what if 2004 hadn't happened", but the point of this thread isn't just to "What if"; I want to recreate the franchise's history from the ground up, as if we were the ones creating it. Assumptions to go off of: Mata nui is sleeping, the island of Mata Nui is his head (confirmed to be a founding principle of bionicle)There is only 1 Makuta, and he is just called Makuta (never liked the idea of more than one, it had way too many plot holes)Makuta basically cannot be permanently defeated.The island of Mata Nui has many, many years of history, far more than in the original franchise, and the Matoran originated on this island and it is their original home.If one were to go beneath Mata Nui, there would be caves, both artificial (part of the robot) and natural, but Metru Nui would not exist.Other islands may exist, but the technology level is primitive, for the most part: though they have machinery for mundane tasks, they are not industrialized or urbanized.Lore and legends are more important than any explanation of how the universe works! I think this is the primary failing behind bionicle, as they got rid of all the mystery behind the world, and it lost its intriguing qualities.Possibilities to discuss: Would the Turaga be former Toa? It was implied they had went on adventures, but no one said they were Toa. If they were Toa, were they Toa of this island?I'm totally undecided on whether to keep Takanuva. On one side it was cool, but on the other I feel like his existence made the original 6 feel weaker, and thus would make the franchise hard to sustain.Any character from the original series can make a return, with some small exceptions such as that Makutas other than the original would need a new title.Things not to do: Do not argue in favor of the original plot. You may love it, and it had parts I liked as well, but in this universe it never existed.Don't create a new island for every new plot arc. This results in one of my least favorite things in Bionicle, where islands lose their culture and become shallow, unexplored things (for example, how many different Mahri Nui landmarks can you name that are actually part of the village?) Now the first thing we'd need to do is make a decision: What to do with 2003? Personally, I'm in favor of keeping the Rahkshi, but having it be the original 6 vs them instead of calling in Divine intervention from the gods in the form of Takanuva. What do you think should have happened? Discuss.

I am more of the opinion that his ability makes it so others think that he hasn't moved when he has, hence from our perspective he seems to teleport, as he is no longer where we expected him to be. It could be that the entire time we were talking to him he was walking to the other end of the world, and his replies echoed back and made us think he hadn't got further away. It's just fooling your mind on a grand scale to the level of making us deceive our own eyes. It's not teleportation, it's self reinforced illusion.