Carakki

So, the BS01 entry on this "destiny war" states that the Order always knew it would have to reveal itself and battle the Brotherhood in the public spotlight. It even states that they began finally making preparations after Mahri Nui's return to the Southern Continent. But I can't find any reference to exactly what triggered the Brotherhood-Order war. Did Helryx discover Teridax's Plan to take over the Matoran Universe? Or did they already know, and simply decide not to act? The Makuta spread death, fear, and violence in the Matoran Universe for a thousand years; why did the Order wait until Matoro's usage of the Ignika to wage war on the organization that put Mata Nui - the very being the Order existed to serve - to sleep?

Thank you everyone for clearing that up (especially to SPIRIT with the super duper in-depth reply, as always). I must have missed the comics or side notes where that was revealed, since (as mentioned) it wasn't key to the plot.

In story year 2007/8 (not sure exactly), it was revealed that there was more than one Makuta, and that Teridax was merely their leader. When exactly was this revealed to the "main characters?" I know that certain factions (the Dark Hunters, the Vortixx, the Order of Mata Nui) were always aware of the Brotherhood, and that the Makuta revealed their inner shadow and went to war with the Dark Hunters around when the Toa Metru moved the Matoran of Metru Nui to the island of Mata Nui. But where (and from whom) did the Toa Nuva and Toa Mahri find out?

So were the Matoran just very used to Teridax not doing his job? I can't find any reference to his participation in the Toa/Dark Hunter war, which really seems like the kind of thing he ought to have been involved in. Did Lhikan never wonder, "I wonder where Teridax is? He's sworn to protect the Matoran!"

Well if there was a general knowledge that Makuta were beings of darkness why would the Turaga be hanging out with them in the first place? (Unless they were in a situation like the Toa Hagah and somehow thought it was necessary)

This one I know: it was not general knowledge that the Makuta were beings of darkness until after the Metru Nui saga. Prior to a certain point, the Makuta were just mysterious, rather cruel inventors.

 

 

Did any of them even know of the Brotherhood of Makuta? I remember Vakama only learning about it in Time Trap (I didn't read it, so I am only going off of Biosector01). Each region had it's own makuta looking over it, so with their ignorance in mind, matoran would probably spread rumors of a dark, almost demonic figure in the shape of a matoran watching over a region and each going by the name The Makuta. There would be different descriptions of what The Makuta looked like (not knowing that there were multiple ones).

 

And it's here, many years later, that I finally realize that the "Brotherhood of Makuta" refers to the plural, not the singular (even if the Matoran actually mistook it as singular). 

 

Time Trap was a great book, btw. Probably one of the best.

 

100% my favorite Bionicle book.

 

On-topic: So Teridax was like an obscure authority figure to the Matoran of Metru Nui (that Vakama happened to know/recognize)? How do we reconcile that with Teridax's role in the Archives Massacre? Was Teridax just not publicly involved in that incident (instead orchestrating it behind the scenes), or did he remain so inactive afterward that people forgot who he was? I'm not sure how it could be the last one; only damaged Matoran were ever shown to have faulty memories.

Thanks for the responses!

 

I think what I'm looking for is what a Metru Nui Matoran would say if some (less informed) being asked "Makuta? Who's that?"

This question is with regards to the Legends of Metru Nui saga, right before the Great Cataclysm. I know that the Makuta were known to the universe - Vakama recognized Teridax's Kraahkan. But how did Vakama know what the Kraahkan looked like? Had Teridax been seen before in Metru Nui (more recently than the 80,000 years since the Matoran Civil War)? What did the Matoran of Metru Nui think Teridax was? Did they know he was in charge of Metru Nui? Was his name (/species) well-known, or did Vakama just happen to know it?

The Kaukau has been snapped up. The Miru is currently in negotiations. Also, the red Matatu has been sold. Normally, I wouldn't sell what had already been spoken for, but the buyer raised the given price of the mask.

Carakki: If you still have that Silver Miru, I'd be interested. I'm also interested in your Gold Yo and what appears to be a Metallic Green Yo - it's the farthest on the right.

I do still have the silver Miru, as well has Nuhvok-Kal's and Lehvak-Kal's Krana Yo. I am selling each for $1, so $5 shipped is not unreasonable.

I have some Kanohi and Krana. In particular, I have a silver Miru. If you are interested, please let me know.

Good Organization! Would you by chance have any Grey Mata heads?

None without eyes. However, I have:- 2 dark gray heads (green eyes)- 2 dark gray heads (red eyes)- 1 dark gray head (orange eyes)- 3 light gray heads (light blue eyes)- 1 light gray head (green eyes)- 1 black head (orange eyes)- 1 red head (orange eyes)

Hmm... I'm not sure it's worth $6 for just those bits. Could you post pictures of your collection?

PhotoSorry for poor picture quality. My collection of pieces is very extensive and, for the most part, carefully sorted. I bought at least one of every set from 2004 to 2010, and managed to obtain many sets from previous years. In the previous photo, there were 9 purple pieces. You can select up to 11 more to be included in your bag. Make a list; I'll check it twice to see if I have everything.

Here are pictures of what I have:KanohiKranaOf the Kanohi, these are taken:

• [*]Yellow Kaukau[*]Black Kaukau[*]Bronze Akaku[*]Green Pakari[*]Green Hau Nuva[*]Red Matatu[*]Orkham's Matatu[*]Both black Kakamas[*]Teal Miru[*]Dark Orange Kakama[*]Silver Miru

Please let me know if you are interested in anything.

I should've asked in my first post. Do you have any Knights' Kingdom figures?

No, unfortunately.

Oh, and might you have any purple pieces?

Here's what I've got.

Well, I'm less interested in Orkham's kanohi, it's a pity it wasn't black. I would still offer $0.50, though, if you'd take it. I'm not interested in the bronze Akaku.

I would take the $0.50. So, everything you want is as follows:

• [*]Orkham's Matatu[*]Red Matatu[*]Teal Miru[*]Black Kakama[*]Dark Orange Kakama

And, if others do not claim them first, you also would like:

• [*]Yellow Kaukau[*]Silver Miru

Is everything there?

I'll take them. I'm also interested in the trans-yellow one, so if you don't end up selling it to mask collector, I'll buy it too. Also the silver and teal Mirus and the black and dark orange Kakamas. And is that Akaku gold or bronze?

I just went back and looked at the picture. The "black" Matatu isn't actually black; it's Orkham's green-silver Kanohi.The Akaku is bronze.

Are the black and red Matatus $1 each? If so, or close, I'd be very interested.

As I said, all Kanohi are $1 each.

I'm thinking about the silver Miru and the kaukaus (Besides the blue and yellow ones.) and the green Pakari

Should you decide to buy, let me know. The four masks together would be $4, plus shipping and handling.

i will buy the trans yellow mask from you, pm me soon!

PM'd.

Okay, BZP. It's been a long time since I visited this site. Similarly, it has been a long time since I MoC'd or built a set. The fact is that I've lost interest in Bionicle. I'll be heading to college soon, and I need money and have no space for my collection. BZP was a wonderful place while I was a fan, and I'd like my sets and pieces to go to its members. Anything that doesn't sell here at BZP will go on eBay, Craigslist, etc.With that said, on to business. My prices are, for the most part, set. If you would like to try to negotiate, feel free, but I feel that my prices are fair. Prices posted here are without shipping and handling, which will be calculated per order. The buyer will pay shipping. I ship only to the contiguous 48 states.Now, what I have is divided into two categories: sets and pieces. See, I was more of a MoCer than a collector, and most of my collection is carefully sorted. I know there are a lot of MoCers here at BZP who would like to acquire certain pieces without having to pay for the whole set in which those pieces are found. At the same time, I would also like to sell off pieces that most MoCers are not necessarily searching for. To that end, I will be selling bags of 50 pieces for $6. A buyer may make a list of up to 20 pieces that will be contained in that bag. (My collection is extensive, feel free to ask for anything. I'll let you know if I have it.) The remaining 30 will be RANDOMLY pulled from my collection. The restrictions on the 20 chosen pieces are as follows:

• [*]You may not select Kanohi or Krana.[*]You may not list more than 10 of the same piece (regardless of color).

Other individual pieces up for sale are Kanohi and Krana. Each Krana and Kanohi are $1 each. Here are pictures of what I have:Kanohi:KanohiKrana:KranaAs for sets, I have plenty of assembled stuff. Sets with launchers will come with at least one piece of ammunition, while I have any left. Sets in green are in negotiation. Here's a list of sets and prices, alphabetically:Canister sets - $10 each, except where noted.AntrozBitil (Double-socket joint on his back broke. I replaced it with a gray one. $8.)ChiroxGeluGorast (Black double-socket joints on her legs broke. I replaced them with extra-long double-socket joints. $8.)Hakann (No laser piece for his weapon. $6)KiinaMalumMata Nui (Comes with a sword, because it was lame that he didn't.)StrakkStroniusTarix (Some joints are weak. Sad but true; plastic quality during this set period was pathetic. $6.)VamprahZaktan ($6)Vehicles - priced as listed:Rockoh T3 + Pohatu driver ($40)Jetrax T6 + Antroz driver ($50)Axalara T9 + Lewa driver ($70)Other - priced as listed:Kikanalo (No Lhikan. ($12.)Spinax ($5)Zesk ($5)Matoran + Wheelbarrow I MoC'd. They were too cool to take apart. Contains lots of smallish pieces. I'm selling them together for $10. Here's a picture:pictureNaria (A Toa of Psionics I MoC'd for a blog contest a long time ago. The Brickshelf gallery link is below. $10)http://www.brickshel...ry.cgi?f=414817If you would like pictures of anything, please let me know.My thanks to everyone who stops by and reads my wordy topic, and my great appreciation to anyone who buys something. I'd rather my collection go to true fans than whoever picks them up at less dedicated sites.

I have these Makuta:

• [*]Antroz[*]Chirox[*]Vamprah[*]Bitil[*]Gorast

I have instructions for all of the above, but no canisters. Bitil is missing one black double-socket piece from his back (it broke). I replaced it with a gray one. Gorast is missing one ammo unit from her Nynrah Ghost Blaster. In addition, the two black double-socket pieces on her legs broke. I replaced them with extra-long versions of the same piece, which make her taller. Antroz, Chirox, and Vamprah are complete, but one of the double-sockets on Vamprah has a hairline fracture. It does not seriously hamper the joint's strength. If you are interested in any or all of the above, please let me know. I am not interested in trading. I am looking for $10 each for Antroz, Chirox, and Vamprah, and $8 each for Bitil and Gorast.