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I have to agree with that. But like I say, So Wrong, It's Right is good (not quite as good as The Party Scene, but better than most pop punk) and from Nothing Personal I would recommened "Break Your Little Heart," "Weightless," "###### If I Do Ya (###### If I Don't)," "Stella," and "Walls."
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It is still bizzare. When somebody says that, you expect to hear traditional/softer thrash and maybe a little power. But not liking metal generally means not liking the vocals, lyrical themes, complexity, heaviness, and aggression, all of which are post prominent in death metal.
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Metal is not your thing but you like death metal? That seems a little odd... Are we talking real death metal here, or deathcore rubbish?
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What, you mean two of the few bands from this genre that I like? Haha! The other being Paramore. Anyway, do All Time Low count? I love The Party Scene and So Wrong, It's Right, and some songs off Nothing Personal, but I refuse to speak of their latest album.And before you ask, no, I too have no idea why I like these bandsthose are like the worst bands in the genre dude
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I second Arsis -- brilliant band. Also, Cryptopsy, (you have probabaly heard of them but I feel obliged anyway. [also stay away from The Unspoken King. It is bad by deathcore standards.]) Suffocation, (brutal technical death/kind of slam) Wormed, (brutal technical death/grindcore) Origin, (technical death) Brain Drill, (technical death/grindcore) Necrophagist, (technical/progressive death) Decapitated, (technical death) Nile, (brutal technical death) The Faceless, (technical death/deathcore) Decrepit Birth, (technical death) Cephalic Carnage, (technical death/grindcore) Defeated Sanity, (brutal technical death) Fleshgod Apocalypse (technical/symphonic death) and Neuraxis (technical death).Guttural Secrete are also pretty technical, but much more brutal and slam orientated. Aborted are also technical/brutal/grindcore/melodic depending on the album, so I am not sure how you will feel about those.I am interested to see what you like already, as I am a fan of technical death but find most of the genre to be full of people who think that playing fast equates to technicality.@Xinlo: If you want progressive I see no need to look further than Anubis Gate.I'd like some tech death recommendations. Not the mainstream stuff everyone knows about, as I already know about them.
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@HAZMAT: This is true.
Indeed, the quality of the bands music is matter of opinion, but this is the metal topic so we should discuss metal. Not that generic mainstream drivel perpetrating to be metal.Whith the exeception of Sabaton and (in my opinion, Slipknot), none of those are metal and all are terrible. Oh and very "niche."Your bands suck, they aren't Metal enough for me.
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Yeah, I know. I know Slipknot are relatively mainstream and all that, but all the same they seem more metal-orientated than the rest of the nu metal/core disasters out there. But then again it is hypocritical of me to say that seeing as I hate on deathcore all the time. Which brings me to your next comment: It is a shame that your tastes have not shifted for the better.gotcha.and that is cool, i mean we all have bands like that. System Of A Down was my gateway band so they hold a place in my heart even though my tastes have shifted majorly.
Oh I see. Well, I would not call melodic death/thrash "hardcore" as such. Unless you are referring to hardcore as in punk, in which case I am completely clueless, haha.hxc is an abbreviation for hardcore. i really liked edge of the earth by them, should i check out the first album?
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None, get Global Flatline by Aborted instead.So I got a $10 Amazon gift card. Should I get Gothic by Paradise Lost, or one of the three Katatonia albums I'm missing?
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Hence why I said to PM me.
sup bros, let's keep the politics out of here, aight?also do you actually like Slipknot? if cool if you do but i find that hard to believe haha
Yes, that is correct. Do some research and tell me it is wrong. By all means, PM me to talk about it if you are that interested.
...I SEE.ಠ_ಠI do love the other nihlisitic, misanthropic, national socialist lyrics...because I feel the same way about a lot of these things too.
And yes, I absolutely love Slipknot. (It is okay, I know it is weird) They were the first band with harsh vocals that I liked; without them I probably would not be into half the death I am into now. Oh and I stand by my claim that Corey Taylor has one of the best clean singing voices of all time.
hxc? I am not sure what this means. Yeah I get what you are saying. Listen to it again at a more godly hour and you might change your mind, haha.Eh, I didn't mind the vocals for the most part, but the hXC-ness of the album made me feel like it was awesome, but lacked any good replay value or a single track to pick out. Then again, I listened to Conclusion around 2 in the morning.
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Yes, that is correct. Do some research and tell me it is wrong. By all means, PM me to talk about it if you are that interested.
...I SEE.ಠ_ಠI do love the other nihlisitic, misanthropic, national socialist lyrics...because I feel the same way about a lot of these things too.
Yes, Idunnolol has an appalling taste in music, (in my opinion) and I let it be known. I see no problems with that. Oh and I disagree with your Slipknot comment; they are one of my favourite bands and I consider them to be metal. Deal. Aren't opinions fun?
that is literally what he does xD also why single out Slipknot? they're more respectable then some bands imo (Limp Bizkit for example)"dude Sykura makes fun of my poop musical tastes all the time, it's no big deal to state your opinion"yeah but there's not much point 'cause every band you said (almost) I'd be all "it sucks. they suck. Hate them all". So it's better to just not say anything.
I respect most bands even if I don't like them at all, though. Except Slipknot.@Tenebrae Invictus: I think the only improvement to be done on Conclusion of an Age is the addition of more clean vocals, but that is just me.
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Yeah I thought so (
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Indeed, core does suck. I thought we already agreed on that?Thrash? I Like Warbringer, Testament, Slayer, Megadeth, Exodus, Overkill, Death Angel, Kreator, Demolition Hammer, Annihilator, Onslaught, Artillery, Eternal Devastation (death/thrash), Sylosis (death/thrash), Vader (death/thrash), Final Breath (death/thrash)Versus Heaven (power/thrash), Dragonlord (symphonic black/thrash) and Trivium (thrash/metalcore).Core sucks.Anyway, I'm trying to find more Thrash bands. But a lot of new ones suck. =/
Oh the conversations I have had, haha. I always make them listen to the music, and get the lyrics up so that they know what they are saying. Their reactions are priceless.true, true. the best covers are the ones that make people not want to speak to you lol
Oh I see. Well played.hence why i said "worse"
Yeah, it is pretty messed up. But I am betting that Lord Worm will be able to produce something good. And I do not believe that you have.gotcha. industrial black metal is weird. have i mentioned Dawn of Ashes in this topic before?
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The more violent and disgusting it is, the better it is. Brutal death established that in the nineties.
Meh, Barnes was terrible with Cannibal Corpse anyway, if you ask me.i liked Kill but overall i'm not huge into CC. they're good and i'm seeing them live next month but i don't go crazy over them. i agree that Corpsegrinder > Barnes. his vocals have only got worse over time. six feet under is a joke now. they're awful.
Rage Nucléaire. Only got one song out: The Sorrow Children at Mourningside. The rest are unfinshed.it's there (i decided to listen to it again) but it's not super prominent. what band is Lord Worm in these days, anyway?
Hahaha, I meant apart from the obvious.probably because it's super derivative and the bands all sound the same
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I feel that black metal depends on how you look at it. I mean, Dead drank his own blood and wanted to look like a corpse -- sure, he was mentally unstable, but by god did he love his art. All the corpsepaint and whatnot about these days is just a continuation of his legacy; trends develop in all forms of music. As for the lyrics, I despise religion and as such I like antitheistic music, but the Satanic propaganda seems a bit silly to me (as I do not believe in the Devil either). I do love the other nihlisitic, misanthropic, national socialist and generally dark lyrics associated with black metal, mainly because I feel the same way about a lot of these things too. Oh, and although I appreciate and understand the thought that goes behind recording your album in the heart of winter in a cave located within a misty Scandinavian forest at midnight whilst the wolves howl with nothing but a tape recorder, it still sounds terrible. Not "raw". Terrible.see i like metal for the totally opposite reason - it's incredibly silly. i'd find it hard to look at the whole black metal scene and not find it hilarious
Cannibal Corpse are hit-and-miss for me. Most of their records have some really good songs, but the majority are lacking. I am pretty exacting in standards when it comes to death metal, but even so, this is the first Cannibal Corpse album I would say that is solid throughout. Oh and I much prefer Corpsegrinder over Barnes, whilst we are at it.i still have to check out Torture. decibel gave it high praise, and reception seems super positive. i'll listen to it tonight
No idea if it was on The Harvest Floor, but I can see it growing on me, even though I am iffy with it at the moment. It kind of reminds me of something Lord Worm would do, actually. (Especially seeing he is the vocalist for a melodic black metal/industrial band now...)i think that weird singing was on The Harvest Floor too, at least it was on the last track. not too big on it but if they keep it to a minimum i could see myself playing the new album a lot
Funny, my two favourite (and in my opinion best) genres are deathgrind and goregrind. Both of which have a massive hardcore punk influence. So why is metal/deathcore so terrible?i've also been checking out some cool hardcore//metal combos, but not like the metalcore we usually rip on here. i've got into Nails (who are grindcore-y and also reminiscent of powerviolence) as well as Everything Went Black, who are like sludgy hardcore but with a black metal influence as well. they're both awesome
No idea why, but I laughed so ###### hard at this.dude Sykura makes fun of my poop musical tastes all the time, it's no big deal to state your opinion
Sacrilege!so i know you don't like harsh vocals
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This probably due to the fact that most people here seem to like thrash and awful core rubbish (which, if we stuck to real metal would also reduce the aforementione elitism). If people do not like X band and/or know anything about their genre, what are we suppsoed to talk about? I suppose we could decide on a topic now, and then stick to it for a while, but I really cannot see that panning out well.This topic is awful... it's just:"hay guise band rocks new album is best chex it out"over and over, with people barely discussing anything. Is metal really that big and its fans that picky that we can't find anything in common to talk about?
Yeah, I tried but it is really only Idunnolol that is into the same bands as me so it sort of fizzled out, haha."I don't see you contributing anything dude... just sayin"That's because I kinda' gave up lol. Nobody appeared to be in the least bit interested in the bands I was talking about, and I didn't want to rain on your little metalcore parade (which I despise) so i figured I'd just step out and let you guys have fun.
Aside from the fact that their songwriting causes me physical pain, you saying that puts me off even more; I like serious music, hence why listen to metal.And of course I like Cattle Decapitation. I was not aware that they had a new track out. (I have been listening to Global Flatline on a pretty much continues loop since it was released, haha) I should probably see what they have put out now.Also, new Cannibal Corpse -Torture- is fantastic.Edit: Just listened to the new Cattle Decapitation: brutal as ######. Not sure how I feel about the weird half singing, half growling parts, but the rest is amazing.Emmure is as stupid as possible and that is why i love themglad you're checking out MW despite hating my wigger-core tastes :Pdo you like Cattle Decapitation? it seems like they'd be within your tastes. i just listened to their new track and it's fantastic
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I would say that you are allowed to state your mind, (and I admit that a lot of power metal is very similar too) but previously in this topic you have mentioned liking Pantera and Deftones, so that in my opinion automatically rends your argument invalid.look brosyou can go out and buy a bunch of power metal recordsor save a ton of money and let me sing the entire genre to you right nowit'll only take like 15 seconds guys, i promise
Emmure is awful in every way possible and some that are not.Eh, Municipal Waste? I never really got thrash crossover but I shall give their new record a go.so the new Emmure album leaked, and it is pretty sweet as expectedalso you dudes like Municipal Waste? i'm pretty stoked to hear their new record which also leaked
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Does heaviness really have anything to do with "being metal"? I mean, the vast majority is, but look at sludge/stoner/folk/classical metal etc. I do not see any of those getting slated for being full of posers (but blending rap with metal is unforgivable in my opinion). The way I see it is this: to the mainstream audience, anything heavier than Nickleback is metal, and anything with harsh vocals is death metal (be it Escape The Fate or some other emo/post-hardcore rubbish). That would be fine -as they do not understand- but a lot of these bands and fans seem attracted to the image metal has, thinking it makes them edgier or being a more "alternative" band for the cool kids that do not conform to listen to. Anyway guys, anybody like the new Abominable Putridity? I think that The Anomalies of Artificial Origin is probably one the best slam death albums I have heard. It would appear that after getting rid of their horrendous vocalist and replacing him with Matti Way they gained the ability to write good brutal death metal. I still kind of wish that Big Chocolate stayed with them though as that could have been interesting, but hey, at least Disfiguring The Goddess are bringing a new record out this year.Yeah none of those are really metal at all.I mean, I'm not one of those OMG NU METAL IZ NOT TROO METAL!!1!!1 genre Nazis, but even for nu metal Linkin Park is.. soft. I've always considered them to be rap-rock, not nu/alternative metal. Distorted guitars and a bit of aggression do not a metal band make.
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(Yes, I know most of these are pretty well known, haha)SabatonAnubis Gate (more progressive/power metal, but highly recommended nonetheless) PyramazeIced EarthBeautiful SinBlind GuardianPower metal is not really my forté seeing I mainly listen to brutal death, but to me that only means that these guys must be doing something very good to get my attention, right?Any good power metal suggestions?
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Meh, boring death/thrash I have to say. Not in the least bit brutal, and the vocalist is pretty bad. It is not exactly difficult being heavier than Arch Enemy though, I shall give you that.Got Mortad's debut album, The Myth Of Purity, a couple of days ago. Pretty good Death Metal with a female vocalist. Slightly heavier and more brutal than than Arch Enemy, I'd say.
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Ehhhh. As much as I love Slayer, they have basically been playing the same song since Seasons in the Abyss. Although they did say the new album would be a "return to their roots" so lets hope it actually does that: like Aborted did with Global Flatline, not Morbid Angel's latest abomination.Slayer are gonna start recording the new album in March.Oh yeah.
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Holy **** is it out?But is it as good as Gormageddon?EDIT: Yes. Yes it is. I swear to god, if Aborted keep pumping music this brutal out it is going to get to the point where my feeble human brain shall be incapable of processing it.okay so Global Flatline is kind of amazing in every possible waygo listen to it right now if you like awesome music
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Eh, most of the "metalheads" I know are either the stereotypical arrogant trendcore emo haircut, girls jeans kind of people. But there is a few into thrash/traditional/speed and the like.To be honest, the main reason I dislike it is due to the fact that most deathcore is genuinely bad music -- although I think black metal has shown us what happens to posers, haha.Anyway, on the subject of black metal, I have been on a binge recently. Any suggestions? (I am after the full-on Satanic corpse-paint Scandinavian stuff, just so you know.I already like: 1349, Acheron, Agalloch, All The Cold, Anaal Nathrakh, Azaghal, Bathory, Behemoth, Beherit, Behexen, Black Altar, Black Funeral, Blut Aus Nord, Burzum, Carpathian Forest, Crebain, Dark Funeral, Darkthone, Deströyer 666, Dissection, Drudkh, Emperor, Enslaved, Enthroned, Gorgoroth, Helvetespine, Impaled Nazarene, Infernal War, Leviathan, Lycanthropy's Spell, Marduk, Marthyrium, Mayhem, Mütiilation, Nargaroth, Nilfheim, Nortt, Nyktalgia, Ragnarok, Ravencult, Sacramentum, Summoning, Svartthron, Svest , Taake, Vinterland, Windir, Wolves In The Throne Room.honestly i don't think most metalheads hate deathcore, it's more a vocal minority, with said minority being internet metal nerds who get butthurt over the smallest things. granted if you just don't like the music that's alright but i don't understand why they care so much about it "not being metal". i don't know why i even care some much about claiming it is metal (via being a hypocrite). i mean i'm the resident -core advocate so i'm really biased as well.
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Most deathcore I have heard is -like I said- more punk than metal. Most of the deathcore bands that are "more metal" generally have a load of distortion and harsher vocals. I can sometimes pick up the Suffocation-like breakdowns, but eh. Taking into consideration that I do not like deathcore, I am probably being overly critical but hey! There is a reason as to why most metalheads dislike deathcore you know. Oh and I hope you realise that comparing Suicide Silence to Cannibal Corpse would get you torn limb from limb at a CC show, haha.And I think that "insane" would be an understatement.I'm just saying that most of them do focus on the metal part. there are a few i can make a case for being more punk than metal (Emmure, Winds Of Plague, and Attila), but even Suiside Silence is basically Cannibal Corpse but with breakdowns.when you say "punk with metal influences" i think of stuff along the lines of The Chariot, Stray From The Path, and Converge who would fit that description perfectly, but most deathcore really doesn't.also you guys are gonna call me insane and probably disagree with me but Attack Attack!'s new album is pretty decent. Calab has some awesome clean vocals imo and i'm a sucker for djent so there's that.
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Funny that, I was always under the impression that deathcore was a fusion genre of death metal and/or metalcore and hardcore punk, and to my knowledge, punk is not metal, so if these deathcore bands focused more on the punk than the metal, it would make them a punk band with metal influences, no? Wow, that was complicated.
Bad metal is still metal. There are no degrees of metal, nothing is 'pretty metal'. It's either metal or it's not, and deathcore is. Just because you don't like something doesn't automatically make it not metal.I like a little deathcore, and some are pretty metal, but the truth is that the majority are not.
And I never said my dislike of it does not make it metal; I do not like Anthrax either but I do not run around calling them posers. The majority of these trendcore bands are, however. Notice how I said majority? I am aware that some play very good music and have good intentions, but most deathcore is a load of generic bull, something which -fan or not- yo uhave to admit.
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Bleh I give up.
Anyway, I am after some traditional heavy metal. Any suggestions? (Apart from the obvious, of course.)