Good point. It sickens me to see bad revamp. Or worse yet, a nonsensical one.

--Somebody

Example, por favor?

Edit: This, perhaps?

Nevermind. How about this? Or this? Or more likely this...

I see a few that are better, they are out there you just gotta find them.

I'm sorry.... I did try....

-K-

I'm sorry.... I did try....

 

-K-

Don't kid yourself, your Tahu roxorz my soxorz.

--Somebody

Good point. It sickens me to see bad revamp. Or worse yet, a nonsensical one.

 

 

--Somebody

Example, por favor?

 

Edit: This, perhaps?

 

Nevermind. How about this? Or this? Or more likely this...

I see a few that are better, they are out there you just gotta find them.

I'm sorry.... I did try....

 

-K-

Gaaah! Forgot to write FAIL in CAPS, again.

I saw that amazing Icarax revamp on Brickshelf. Thanks for the topic link, I'll have to tell the MOCist it's WIN.

Nuparu Mahri Revamp!

As for staying on topic, I find it better to make a new MOC, as revamps may or may not work in the eyes of members. Take this blog entry for example.

But revamps are fun to do. Like my Nuparu Mahri one. I also want to do one of Toa Nuju, if only to possible recolor him, give him a shield (like I wanted from day 1) and use his tools.

-CF

What? Why would you recolor Nuju?

 

And a shield?

 

Redo Kopaka Phantoka. That set is full of FAIL.

 

There IS no signoff!

But I <3 Kopaka Phantoka... the stylistic consistency of the armor is delicious, and the mask, too, is great (though it would on its own be better mirrored to match classic Kopaka, as a part of the set it's good as-is since it complements the Midak Skyblaster). And in my drawings thus far he's been pure ownage, despite the irritation I'm experiencing with stylizing the Midak Skyblaster. I scarcely even play video games with firearms, how am I supposed to draw one? The fact that it can be operated in three different configurations (one hand, two-hand, and automated) doesn't make things any clearer for me.

Also, I agree that the Icarax revamp above looks cool, but it totally ditches the fancy MoMN-esque feet for which I so loved Icarax! The upper legs, too, have been abandoned... basically, it keeps aspects of Icarax and adds aspects that look cool, but throws out the aspects of Icarax that look cool.

Meh, don't mind me, I'm just a stickler for keeping the identifying aspects of sets. Explains why I don’t do many revamps.

What? Why would you recolor Nuju?

 

And a shield?

 

Redo Kopaka Phantoka. That set is full of FAIL.

 

There IS no signoff!

One word: bley.

I might recolor him, if I choose to, to light bley.

As for the shield, back then I thought all Ice Toa should have shields, and was disappointed at Nuju's lack of one. (Strangely enough I have never MOCed a Ko-Toa, I don't think, but when I do soon he will have a shield.)

Kopaka Phantoka is so full of fail that when I'm through with redoing him, he won't even look like Kopaka Phantoka. I guess that's good.

Why don't you redo him?

(Ideas: Light bley, silver (no gunmetal), sleek arms and legs so he can go swoosh down the mountain, sword, shield, right eyepiece, toa feet, mata head, ice blue eyes, the list is so long. See why he wouldn't look like a Kopaka Phantoka redo? I'd have to call him...Kopaka Nuva! Yay!)

-CF

What? Why would you recolor Nuju?

 

And a shield?

 

Redo Kopaka Phantoka. That set is full of FAIL.

 

There IS no signoff!

One word: bley.

I might recolor him, if I choose to, to light bley.

 

As for the shield, back then I thought all Ice Toa should have shields, and was disappointed at Nuju's lack of one. (Strangely enough I have never MOCed a Ko-Toa, I don't think, but when I do soon he will have a shield.)

 

Kopaka Phantoka is so full of fail that when I'm through with redoing him, he won't even look like Kopaka Phantoka. I guess that's good.

Why don't you redo him?

(Ideas: Light bley, silver (no gunmetal), sleek arms and legs so he can go swoosh down the mountain, sword, shield, right eyepiece, toa feet, mata head, ice blue eyes, the list is so long. See why he wouldn't look like a Kopaka Phantoka redo? I'd have to call him...Kopaka Nuva! Yay!)

 

-CF

Personally, I dislike any idea that "All _-toa should have ______" and have for a very long time. I was disgusted that Nuju had an eyepiece at all, though really I have begun to care less (nevertheless, I'm still including a more symmetrical Matatu in my still-in-progress Toa design for myself). I welcomed Kongu Mahri's shortness, although really Iruini was the only real example of a Toa of Air having a height not at or below average. Matoro Mahri was likewise welcomed as a divergence from the norm for Toa of his element. My standards for Toa of certain elements are only in terms of color, and even in that I am relatively liberal.

Why do I think this? It could have to do with the fact that my family divides sets based on element (or color for non-elemental sets), but still I think of it as an improvement from traditional ways of thinking.

Shun purity archaic! Welcome contrast, more divine!

*ahem* I still need to post that poem in full...

Other notes: Yes, I suppose that Phantoka Kopaka could have done with a shield. On the same note, Tahu Mistika could do with a sword, though I welcome the fact that he is the only Nuva Mistika with a tool that can be used independently from his Midak Skyblaster (Kopaka's at least works as a close-range weapon, and I am trying to understand how a scope like Gali's, however beautiful as a part, can focus her water powers). At least he, like Kopaka, still has a bladed weapon.

I love Kopaka's legs as-is, as they exhibit great stylistic consistency with his torso in a manner LEGO has not yet explored, but I understand your dislike of Piraka legs on Toa-- I have a similar beef with Rahkshi legs on Toa, what with their lack of stylistic consistency with Toa parts and complete lack of pistons. I'm grappling with your desire for "sleeker" legs, as it seems to me that more muscular legs are more suited to one with skis... skates... whatever those foot-things were he had before.

I don't mind the gunmetal. Of course, silver may have looked good as well, though I think personally it is important that his heaviest armor exhibit the most contrast with his main color, white.

I approve of his bayonet as well, which seems suited to the warrior we have seen him as in most media, though I'm having trouble drawing the Midak Skyblaster which has been seen in so many configurations (one-hand, two-hand, and automated). Given your experience with firearms, any suggestions as to what I should look to for inspiration? Of course any realistic weapon will have to be stylized to shoot the fantasy-rich "spheres of light" described in the story, but I need somewhere to start.

And most of these things are just personal preference, but still I felt it would be worthwhile to express my views and more importantly my need for inspiration for the Midak.

Whoever build this is full of WIN!

I'm sure he will be taking care of the other lame Toa designs soon...

 

Whoever build this is full of WIN!

 

I'm sure he will be taking care of the other lame Toa designs soon...

I dunno... the color scheme is cluttered, and it just reeks of excess complexity in my eyes. (...nose? How can something reek in one's eyes? Bleh, never mind, you understand what I'm trying to say, regardless of how it's supposed to be said.)

I also have to say I prefer the bley to the black and silver that are clearly at odds with one another in this MOC. It's hard to tell what's supposed to be a secondary color, what's supposed to be the primary color, what's supposed to be base neutral. I don't know, I myself tend to prefer revamps that actually look like sets, so I may be going too hard on this, which clearly opts for a more practical, robotic look.

Whoever build this is full of WIN!

I'm sure he will be taking care of the other lame Toa designs soon...

Example, por favor?

 

Edit: This, perhaps?

 

Nevermind. How about this? Or this? Or more likely this...

All of the below.

Mikerahk is awesome.

That Mikey kid is pretty good at building, I must agree, if only he got around to MoCing more.

You make me sad Aanchir... the gunmetal DOES NOT WORK. And there is no excuse for it. It just looks awful... white or bley or silver would have been best.

I dunno... it seems pretty good for me, and I have the actual set. I feel that its strong contrast with his primary color of white is welcome in the set and contributes to its overall appearance. Why does it not work? (Remember that this is not the same greenish-tinged variety featured on all pre-2007 sets)

Really the main disappointment with it was that there's no way of stowing the wings so they take up less space without negatively affecting the appearance of the set. Other than that and some minor posing issues with the arms (which are no serious concern of mine, as I rarely keep sets out of their canisters these days unless I need them for drawing reference), I love it to pieces. The mask definitely exceeded expectations (my expectations of it after its initial release were consistently low, unlike my sporadic expectations of Toa Ignika). The armor all seems to work (and produces stylistic consistency few sets are able to match), and and I looooove the laser attachments and the idea of a bayonet as a whole.

Some people dislike the use of Piraka legs. I, however, think they're beautiful in conjunction with the Inika armor featured on his set, and if you have the two parts-- and I have no doubt that you do-- I advise you to compare them for yourself.

There is no other gunmetal. Therefore it makes me sad.

 

I don't mind the Piraka legs.

 

There IS no signoff!

I suppose that is adequate reason to be upset. Maybe it would have been in LEGO's interest to use gunmetal on the Midak Skyblaster so that gunmetal would remain an option for color schemes. (I can't see it on Kopaka's wings or bayonet, however.)

...Say, have you noticed that LEGO has yet to feature what BZPers commonly call "gunmetal" on an actual gun? I guess Hahli's harpoon gun counts, and perhaps Nuparu's laser drill...

Then again, LEGO doesn't have actual guns. They have "blasters."

 

Whoever build this is full of WIN!

 

I'm sure he will be taking care of the other lame Toa designs soon...

It reeks of ToM.

55555

 

Whoever build this is full of WIN!

 

I'm sure he will be taking care of the other lame Toa designs soon...

It reeks of ToM.

 

55555

Nah. ToM's designs are rarely that robotic looking, from what I've seen. Besides, ToM expressed his ability to create realistic redesigns with the Mahri, despite my own personal distaste for some of the changes.

You know what I hate? When people make revamps with movie color schemes (thankfully, though, rarely with a robotic appearance) and call them *shiver* movie versions.

There is no other gunmetal. Therefore it makes me sad.

 

I don't mind the Piraka legs.

 

There IS no signoff!

I suppose that is adequate reason to be upset. Maybe it would have been in LEGO's interest to use gunmetal on the Midak Skyblaster so that gunmetal would remain an option for color schemes. (I can't see it on Kopaka's wings or bayonet, however.)

 

...Say, have you noticed that LEGO has yet to feature what BZPers commonly call "gunmetal" on an actual gun? I guess Hahli's harpoon gun counts, and perhaps Nuparu's laser drill...

 

Then again, LEGO doesn't have actual guns. They have "blasters."

 

Whoever build this is full of WIN!

 

I'm sure he will be taking care of the other lame Toa designs soon...

It reeks of ToM.

 

55555

 

Nah. ToM's designs are rarely that robotic looking, from what I've seen. Besides, ToM expressed his ability to create realistic redesigns with the Mahri, despite my own personal distaste for some of the changes.

 

You know what I hate? When people make revamps with movie color schemes (thankfully, though, rarely with a robotic appearance) and call them *shiver* movie versions.