It will never cease to amaze me how people think the problem is with the OS.

All OS' are innocent, and can do nothing to freeze the computer. It is all with what YOU tell it to do.

I've experimented with doing the exact same things in Linux. It does it without crashing. It is the OS. Even if it's the hardware and the reason it works in Linux is because of how low-power Linux is, even the lowest-end MacBook is an upgrade spec-wise, so it'll still be an upgrade.

I think the problem is that Apple products suck.

-Omi

I think the problem is that Apple products suck.

 

-Omi

*Stones*

Was the XP in an HP tower? HP's updates fried my XP once. D:

Nope. Lenovo Thinkpad.

I think the problem is that Apple products suck.

 

-Omi

Agreed.

I think the problem is that Apple products suck.

 

-Omi

 

*Stones*

Hey you can't angry at me for a product that has failed on you 3 times. That should say something.

-Omi

I think the problem is that Apple products suck.

 

-Omi

 

*Stones*

Hey you can't angry at me for a product that has failed on you 3 times. That should say something.

 

-Omi

1. As I said right there in the entry, I examined it myself and redid the scenarios a few times. The problem wasn't the iPod itself, it was my computer.

2. Classifying all products from a company as bad because one didn't work fully with one of my other products from a competing brand is kind of, well, I can't really put it in a way that wouldn't offend.

I've experimented with doing the exact same things in Linux. It does it without crashing. It is the OS. Even if it's the hardware and the reason it works in Linux is because of how low-power Linux is, even the lowest-end MacBook is an upgrade spec-wise, so it'll still be an upgrade.

Maybe it's cause you were doing something wrong in Windows.

I have -never- had Windows crash on me unless I -forced- it.

On the other hand, on every Mac I've ever used there's been a program that deletes -everything- on the harddrive except basic programs on shutdown. On top of this said program was a memory hog and forced a crash whenever you did anything more than type "the" in a word processor.

I've experimented with doing the exact same things in Linux. It does it without crashing. It is the OS. Even if it's the hardware and the reason it works in Linux is because of how low-power Linux is, even the lowest-end MacBook is an upgrade spec-wise, so it'll still be an upgrade.

 

Maybe it's cause you were doing something wrong in Windows.

 

I have -never- had Windows crash on me unless I -forced- it.

 

On the other hand, on every Mac I've ever used there's been a program that deletes -everything- on the harddrive except basic programs on shutdown. On top of this said program was a memory hog and forced a crash whenever you did anything more than type "the" in a word processor.

Frankly you and I have very different systems and uses then, because XP has become annoyingly unreliable as of late. I used to love it, but it's gone to heck lately.

I've never had those problems, so, with all due respect, I'm attributing that to not being properly acquainted with the new OS, architecture and all that shoz.

1. As I said right there in the entry, I examined it myself and redid the scenarios a few times. The problem wasn't the iPod itself, it was my computer.

Did you try it on another computer?

2. Classifying all products from a company as bad because one didn't work fully with one of my other products from a competing brand is kind of, well, I can't really put it in a way that wouldn't offend.

Well what?

If the product does not work as it should, you have a problem with the producer.

Frankly you and I have very different systems and uses then, because XP has become annoyingly unreliable as of late. I used to love it, but it's gone to heck lately.

I use XP on two seperate computers, and it hasn't become unreliable on either.

-Omi

1. As I said right there in the entry, I examined it myself and redid the scenarios a few times. The problem wasn't the iPod itself, it was my computer.

Did you try it on another computer?

2. Classifying all products from a company as bad because one didn't work fully with one of my other products from a competing brand is kind of, well, I can't really put it in a way that wouldn't offend.

Well what?

 

If the product does not work as it should, you have a problem with the producer.

Frankly you and I have very different systems and uses then, because XP has become annoyingly unreliable as of late. I used to love it, but it's gone to heck lately.

I use XP on two seperate computers, and it hasn't become unreliable on either.

 

-Omi

Yes. I tried it on my old desktop which I haven't updated in months, my brothers XP laptop and Vista laptop, an iBook and an iMac. The only ones it worked on properly were the Macs(though that's to be expected) and the un-updated Windows XP desktop. It also worked fine on my laptop before the updates, so it would seem the problem is from the OS.

The product works as it should after a look over by some tech support folk, all of whom from Apple are much better than what I've had from any other companies. I walk into a Best Buy? I get some disgruntled Geeksquad employee shouting at me for replacing the stock two 512MB RAM sticks with two 1GB RAM sticks, claiming it voided my warranty even though I'm pretty sure it said that RAM upgrades don't void it. I walk into an Apple Store, they've never failed yet to take care of the problem in a timely and effective manner. I call Lenovo tech support? I get some guy in a third-world nation who twice doesn't speak English and most other times has too thick an accent to understand. I call Apple's tech support, I get someone who speaks English, and in an accent I can understand. I've taken it to Apple multiple times and they've fixed their end multiple times. Every time I've taken it somewhere Windows-centered the "tech-savvy" folk they have there just make it worse.

Again, different uses, different computers, different environments.

I've experimented with doing the exact same things in Linux. It does it without crashing. It is the OS. Even if it's the hardware and the reason it works in Linux is because of how low-power Linux is, even the lowest-end MacBook is an upgrade spec-wise, so it'll still be an upgrade.

 

Maybe it's cause you were doing something wrong in Windows.

 

I have -never- had Windows crash on me unless I -forced- it.

 

On the other hand, on every Mac I've ever used there's been a program that deletes -everything- on the harddrive except basic programs on shutdown. On top of this said program was a memory hog and forced a crash whenever you did anything more than type "the" in a word processor.

 

Frankly you and I have very different systems and uses then, because XP has become annoyingly unreliable as of late. I used to love it, but it's gone to heck lately.

 

I've never had those problems, so, with all due respect, I'm attributing that to not being properly acquainted with the new OS, architecture and all that shoz.

I never update XP.

And no, it wasn't being not acquanted with it, I know how OS X works. The Macs I was using were given to the school system, and the school put that stupid program there to prevent people from installing games to the computers.

I've experimented with doing the exact same things in Linux. It does it without crashing. It is the OS. Even if it's the hardware and the reason it works in Linux is because of how low-power Linux is, even the lowest-end MacBook is an upgrade spec-wise, so it'll still be an upgrade.

 

Maybe it's cause you were doing something wrong in Windows.

 

I have -never- had Windows crash on me unless I -forced- it.

 

On the other hand, on every Mac I've ever used there's been a program that deletes -everything- on the harddrive except basic programs on shutdown. On top of this said program was a memory hog and forced a crash whenever you did anything more than type "the" in a word processor.

 

Frankly you and I have very different systems and uses then, because XP has become annoyingly unreliable as of late. I used to love it, but it's gone to heck lately.

 

I've never had those problems, so, with all due respect, I'm attributing that to not being properly acquainted with the new OS, architecture and all that shoz.

 

I never update XP.

 

And no, it wasn't being not acquanted with it, I know how OS X works. The Macs I was using were given to the school system, and the school put that stupid program there to prevent people from installing games to the computers.

Well, there's the difference; it was just Vista I didn't like until the update that screwed XP for me, so if you don't update, then it should still work fine.

Well, there's the problem; that program screws up everything, not just games.

Yes. I tried it on my old desktop which I haven't updated in months, my brothers XP laptop and Vista laptop, an iBook and an iMac. The only ones it worked on properly were the Macs(though that's to be expected) and the un-updated Windows XP desktop. It also worked fine on my laptop before the updates, so it would seem the problem is from the OS.

I have an ipod that works on both a laptop and a PC just fine with XP.

Seems to me the problem isn't your software then.

-Omi

Yes. I tried it on my old desktop which I haven't updated in months, my brothers XP laptop and Vista laptop, an iBook and an iMac. The only ones it worked on properly were the Macs(though that's to be expected) and the un-updated Windows XP desktop. It also worked fine on my laptop before the updates, so it would seem the problem is from the OS.

I have an ipod that works on both a laptop and a PC just fine with XP.

 

Seems to me the problem isn't your software then.

 

-Omi

1. ...I said the desktop hadn't been updated. It's still on an old version of SP2. Plus it doesn't have any of my anything on it.

2. My laptop used to work fine. Now it works except when it doesn't. As I said, I've experimented and isolated most of the problem in my computer. Frankly something like Windows, which has one of it's main selling points as compatibility, should work with bloody near everything without fail. Which it did until my OS, and subsequently my security software, updated.

I think the problem is that Apple products suck.

 

-Omi

OMG, Omi and EW agreeing??

~EW~

Yes. I tried it on my old desktop which I haven't updated in months, my brothers XP laptop and Vista laptop, an iBook and an iMac. The only ones it worked on properly were the Macs(though that's to be expected) and the un-updated Windows XP desktop. It also worked fine on my laptop before the updates, so it would seem the problem is from the OS.

I have an ipod that works on both a laptop and a PC just fine with XP.

 

Seems to me the problem isn't your software then.

 

-Omi

 

1. ...I said the desktop hadn't been updated. It's still on an old version of SP2. Plus it doesn't have any of my anything on it.

 

2. My laptop used to work fine. Now it works except when it doesn't. As I said, I've experimented and isolated most of the problem in my computer. Frankly something like Windows, which has one of it's main selling points as compatibility, should work with bloody near everything without fail. Which it did until my OS, and subsequently my security software, updated.

Then you need new PCs if the ipod only works on Macs. Or you need a new ipod if it keeps failing on you.

-Omi

Yes. I tried it on my old desktop which I haven't updated in months, my brothers XP laptop and Vista laptop, an iBook and an iMac. The only ones it worked on properly were the Macs(though that's to be expected) and the un-updated Windows XP desktop. It also worked fine on my laptop before the updates, so it would seem the problem is from the OS.

I have an ipod that works on both a laptop and a PC just fine with XP.

 

Seems to me the problem isn't your software then.

 

-Omi

 

1. ...I said the desktop hadn't been updated. It's still on an old version of SP2. Plus it doesn't have any of my anything on it.

 

2. My laptop used to work fine. Now it works except when it doesn't. As I said, I've experimented and isolated most of the problem in my computer. Frankly something like Windows, which has one of it's main selling points as compatibility, should work with bloody near everything without fail. Which it did until my OS, and subsequently my security software, updated.

Then you need new PCs if the ipod only works on Macs. Or you need a new ipod if it keeps failing on you.

 

-Omi

XP has been discontinued last I read. It's now OS X Leopard or Windows Vista. Vista has been worse for me than XP, and a friend of mine who turned out to be a Windows guy installed XP via Boot Camp on his MacBook Pro and deleted his Mac partition, so I can always do that if I end up truly hating OS X. As far as the iPod goes, I'm looking to get a new computer anyway; due to my father being cheap this thing was bought on clearance and is already heavily outdated, I was looking to get a new computer and I was planning to get a MacBook due to the "safety net" in case I do end up hating OS X, this takes care of both problems at once.

I've experimented with doing the exact same things in Linux. It does it without crashing. It is the OS. Even if it's the hardware and the reason it works in Linux is because of how low-power Linux is, even the lowest-end MacBook is an upgrade spec-wise, so it'll still be an upgrade.

 

Maybe it's cause you were doing something wrong in Windows.

 

I have -never- had Windows crash on me unless I -forced- it.

 

On the other hand, on every Mac I've ever used there's been a program that deletes -everything- on the harddrive except basic programs on shutdown. On top of this said program was a memory hog and forced a crash whenever you did anything more than type "the" in a word processor.

Then it's probably the way it's set up. I took the battery out of this MacBook so I could clean the charger contacts without being electrocuted, and when I put it back in I discovered that it hadn't even shut down, just gone to sleep.

And all the PCs I've used are slow to load a page on the internet, and even then it's cached so I have to refresh it.

I've never had a Mac crash on me, period.

It's now OS X Leopard or Windows Vista.

OSX Leopard? Windows Vista?

Shouldn't it be Windows 7 or OSX Snow Leopard now?

But yeah, it's probably your hardware problem, either it's XP's or your iPod's. I've been using XP for 3 years, Vista for 2, and now 7 BETA 1 for the last month, all on a 5 year old desktop. Vista was stable but lacked a bit of speed, 7's speedy and it's incredibly stable for a BETA.

Just because your XP crashes doesn't necessarily makes it XP's fault, though. Tons of people out there has iPods and XP - None of them have problem

~ Bioran

Whoops, double post...

~ Bioran

Just because your XP crashes doesn't necessarily makes it XP's fault, though.

Quoted for truth.

-Omi

Alright then, what would it be? The task works fine on my desktop and until recently worked fine on my laptop, and doesn't work on either of my brothers laptops.

Maybe it is the user.....

-Omi