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Toa Aedak

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  1. Say what?! Er... I'm going to give this a pass, though, as it's unclear if you mean general or specific physics (as I use the terms to refer to underlying physics itself or behavior of advanced technology/magic/etc. that actually uses the same underlying physics, just in different ways). But since the story doesn't comment on which is which, for fiction it's pretty much all just "physics." Given that, we're told quite a lot, so much that even for me I never really got around to getting that official topic exhaustive. If anything the problem was we were told TOO MUCH about the physics, as that evidences. I have to argue on this simply as we were given too much information on things we Don't need to know about. again the Properties of Metal like Protosteel which is the "hardest known substance in the MU" is pretty important. although I will hand it to you that outside of my recent arguement, knowing the properties and weight of protodermic Material has little to know importance to the actual progression of the story unless we are going into a detailed battle, which Bionicle seems to lack plenty of along with character description in story (Examples are Tren Krom, Helryx, ect). what has been dictated and what lacks dictating alone is what is frustrating.
  2. Okay, I'm assuming you're new to the story and never read any of the source material. I'll explain it for you, then. There are these things called domes which house the islands and continents within the robot. These domes are made of solid rock (though now that we know the nature of the MU, this rock likely hides tons of important machinery. We know there are miles of it because the Toa Metru traveled through this barrier to get to the outside of the robot's head, and their accounts of that journey can be found in Adventures #5: Voyage of Fear and #6: Maze of Shadows. Now, the head is one of the smaller parts of the body, and wouldn't need to support much but the inside. This means it doesn't need as much "inner padding" as the rest of the body surely must. Since this stone barrier extends throughout the entire MU, we have to conclude that a lot of space is taken up by this rock layer to help protect and hide the mechanisms that allow him to function. And there is an explanation: Their universe is fundamentally different from ours and does not follow the same laws that ours does. That IS the explanation. Using the LoTR example, we just explain that magic exists there, and that's how things work. You accept that without question, so why does saying that the BIONICLE Universe functions as it does make such a huge difference? Use your imaginations! That's the whole point of LEGO. Read it, enjoy it, figure it out. Bonesii has given multiple theories on the subject, so you might check with him. Ninja'd by fishers. She basically summed up the best theory. 1) I am not new to the story. 2) since the Metru/Great Resue Arc the universe (GSR) has been mostly described as being made of Protodermis, a synthetic form of matter used to be the building block of everything in the MU. yes I know there are domes, and I really find it rude in how you are talking down to me like that with your tone. (edit: apologies for the Hostility, I am used to being talked down to so that is how it came off when you said that. I scratched it out, but if I remove it I will feel like a pansy trying to hide something.) http://biosector01.com/wiki/index.php/Protodermis even the wiki states this. as for your statement about "solid Rock" even if there was actual Earthen Rock in large Quantities I doubt it would only estimate up to around 3% of all matter that the MU is Made of. that is also a point that the Rock could be in itself Protodermis as it is never describe as having a difference from it and what would be normally found. if the Metru did come across this they would have marveled at the difference between it and the Proto Rock they work with, or it can even be a form of Proto-bedrock, though I do agree it would need "Padding". Who says it doesn't always? Perhaps the vat/pool WAS made of exsidian. It accidentally transformed/destroyed other things, so I don't think that means it can withhold its power the way the Ignika can withhold its curses. It has no choice but to do those things, but remember that it fought back when the Metru tried to take a small bit of its substance. "Allowing Teridax to experiment" could just mean that it didn't try to defend itself when he was working with it. this is a good point, Teridax could have somehow coaxed it. indeed it does, and it is alright shorthanded Abbreviations are hard to recognize if you are not "in the loop" in a conversation with a fanbase. I found myself scratching my head for a few moments before reading on and putting the clues together.
  3. alright, is it possible to account for any form of Evolutionary Adaptaions by both the GB and the inhabitants of SM? what about those said "Mechanical Implants"? seen things like the "grunts" from Halo and the Kryptonian's from DC who also survive intense amounts of gravity how much would you scale these two examples compared to SM? also would a Hollow Liquid Core instead of a Molten Metal core Lesson the Gravity in anyway? (Edit: forget the Grunts. I ended up being wrong which is my fault for going off a Misc Guide book I read years ago. it is either my Memory is faulty or said information has changed.)
  4. Actually, no. Lego can't produce a 5 million foot-tall robot anymore than they can produce a 40 million foot tall robot. I think the best that can be done is a 4 foot tall set, on the 1: 10 million scale. Okay, if I was on this proverbial planet, I'd be 5 feet 9 inches, but the residents would see me as much taller because to them, they're 5 feet 9 inches, and I'm huge. Of course, because of my circumference, to them, I'd create tremors wherever I stepped. That's another thing that bugs me; why aren't there massive tremors when the robots walk around? Is the ground that dense, or are they tippy-toeing around? Nah, they can't really do, they'd still have to move their feet up and down. Which part of "not our universe, not our physics" are you having trouble with? Their planet has a sentient liquid core! Does ours? No. Do our laws of physics have to apply here? No. Recall that the GSR and PR had Gravity powers, so Mata Nui could easily have directed some of it onto himself and Teridax to negate their weight and subsequent impact on the surface of the planet. "Not our universe, not our physics" is quite possibly the laziest excuse for lazy writing I've ever heard. The story team pulled that figure from nowhere and had to weasel their way into an excuse. It bugs me the same way that whole photo-enhancement thing is in crime shows; I don't care if it's fiction, it's simply not possible. By the way, from what I can tell, their gravity powers only work a). to regulate the interior, not the exterior and b). to produce "gravity bursts," which... I have no clue what those are, but I can't see how they would help the FEET, when they're said to come from the HANDS. Not the exterior? Then how did it affect Aqua and Bota Magna? And it's not lazy--it's fact. Things work a certain way here in our world, because that's how it's supposed to be. Things work differently in their universe, because that's how it's supposed to work. The massive size for the robot makes sense, because it has to contain: 1) adequate living space for every sentient being, as well as thousands, if not millions, of Rahi 2) space for the water channels and domes in which the land masses are contained 3) the mechanisms that enable the GSR to move around However you look at it, the size of the robot isn't so ridiculous. unless you simply don't like big numbers, which is the only problem you seem to be going on about. alright can I take a Crack at this? for starters we are assuming that The Great spirit Robot is Made of a Known metal. Real World Physics apply to a degree but assuming that the GSR is Made of some form of Proto-Metal we have no Idea how much it weighs or the properties of said metal. it could be as light as Tin and as sturdy as Grade-A steel or even harder. heck do we even have a comparison of how Protosteel matches up in sturdyness to things like Diamond? Icarus is right, there is no excuse to say "it is fiction, it can defy logic with no explanation" but we Need an explanation as to why it functions to such a degree. also why would a solid life sustaining planet the size of Jupiter not be plausible? can someone explain this to me?
  5. Problem with that is that we would like to think it over, but The Powers That Be and The Yesterday Quest kinda picked up after journies end, two serials that seemed to have a larger impact on actual canon and story continuation then just a simple "sub story". and I want to see it finished just as much as I want to slap Greg F. for continuing it without any real means to finish it. so at least in my eyes, no Gen 1's story didn't get a proper ending as a certain someone had to pick it up and continue it, whose serials are technically canon. you can say that Journies end could be considered the proper ending, but that is still basically trying to push the problem aside and ignore it hoping it would go away, like that nasty Skakdi Skeleton we know Spiriah keeps in his closet. anyways, being a person who lurked on this website more, but only recently joined I know my word does not mean much, but I felt the urge to add my two cents. sorry if I irritate any of you with this ^^;;;
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