Torchflare1234

Considering how those "UNDECIDED" are mine, I'd very much like hear the opinion of the only person to vote "NAY." I like the concept of a realm of death. In fact, I'd like to make a mention of it in my epic. I use to think like that. Then the Kanohi Shoopda came along. First, remove the "When a being dies, their spirit doesn't naturally pass like how we do." That could be considered a religous tie and it's not needed. Second, we have seen two instances where there has been resurrection. Takutanuva resurrecting Jaller and Matoro using the Ignika to resurrect Mata Nui. So, there are more than the two ways you stated and both are far more efficient than either the "Ţuat" or the "Shrine of Yezo Nui." Third, by what you have said, "The Shadow Realm" is not a dimension like the articles suggest. It's really just a shadow-state existance, where the deceased's spirit remains bound to this plane of existance until passing on.

So, anyone with access to "Black Protosteel" could create Protosteel by removing the enhancement properties? Also, the article is, in a way, stating that Protosteel exists naturally when we know it does not. Then what would convince you to change your vote?

Which is why I would prefer it if the Toa became a physical entity of their Element. I'm not sure why Em didn't change the wording when it was previously "Vetoed". Mind telling us what would?

Metals are usually mined as ore, then smelted into a purified form. Alloys are normally two or more metals melded together. "Black Protosteel" ore is mined. "Black Protosteel" metal is its pure form. "Black Protosteel" alloy is the metal melted and mixed with other metal(s). The article's description had me confused. Wow, that's funny. Kohila and I though the exact same thing about Article 92. Anyway, I'm not so certain that I helped you much on your indecision, but I do what I can. You know they say, 'Great minds think alike.'[/ego] You'll find it's not that hard to change my mind, as long as the change is logical and with reason. In the Kahbarnean Sea, of course. (Pronounced KAH-barn-EE-an)

When the problem is fundamental, changing the external won't matter. If I cut down a tree or if I trim some hedges, will they cry out in pain? No. If I hit a dog or kick a cat, will they? Yes. "Plant Life" is different from "Life", because "Life" can create sentient life. "Plant Life" can't, but it would be possible for a plant to become sentient. Of course Toa have fought with allies. But normally those allies fight out of their own free will and not because the Toa makes them. And any Rahi the Toa may have fought in the past were either controlled by a Makuta or acting on instinct. A Toa of "Rahi" would make innocent Rahi fight for them, not against them and not willingly. That coupled with the fact that a Toa of "Rahi" can't create Rahi is why I cannot support it as a viable Element. If I am wrong on any of this, please tell me.

That's probably my fault. See the discussion here. First of all, "Rahi" aka "Rahi Control", as defined by Åusår, can't be considered as a Canon Element because a Toa of "Rahi" doesn't create the Rahi. Second, any use of Rahi by the Toa could put the Rahi, an innocent, in danger. With all that in mind, why did you use it as an Element?

The only problem with that is, if we don't hear from him, we're stuck waiting on him with no idea why.

I gathered as much. I was referring to the way the resurrection was to occur. Why a Great Hau? Why three heartlights? Why nothing logical or reasonable like something personal of the deceased?

The beginning is usually best. I'm going to ask this in a plain yes-or-no fashion; are the proposed Elements; "Fear", "Disintegration", "Hunger", "Shattering", "Poison", and "Fear" naturally occurring Matoran Elements? If not, did some external force cause the change? What I probably should have asked initially is this; how would a Toa use these Elements in a blast? Based on your definitions, "Elasticity" and "Density" are limited to the Toa's body or, as is the case for "Density", physical contact. "Health" could be a blast of regenerative energy. "Disintegration" and "Shattering" could be blasts of said energy. Considering most people classify a storm as weather, I'd be more inclined to think that a Toa of "Weather" is capable of doing everything a Toa of "Storms" could and more. But by what you've said, a Toa of "Weather" is really more like a Toa of Atmosphere. Thank you for the clarification. I miss understood the meaning of "Brimstone". But both could be created by two or more Elements working together; "Magma" created by combining Fire or Plasma with Earth or Stone, "Brimstone" created by combining Air with "Poison". For that matter, so could "Weather" or "Storms" by Air and Water working in conjunction. These are the problems I see with the Elements as defined. "Weather" or "Storms" Despite what you and Ballom say, these two are the same. "Storms" is just more limited. "Rahi" This relies on there being Rahi around to control. "Brimstone" Basically poisonous gas. Which would classify it an evil or negative Element. "Fate" It's just too powerful to be an Element. "Density" Any use requires physical contact or is limited to the body, best kept as a power. "Elasticity" Its use is limited to the body, also best kept as a power. "Power Scream" This is a power of Sonics. "Health" I don't have much of a complaint for this except the lack of an offensive use. "Poison" Any use would require physical contact. "Electricity" EDIT: Should have had this here to begin with. Ability-wise, it's the same as Lightning. Here are what I perceive these currently undefined Elements to be."Insects" Same basic abilities and problem as "Rahi" except with bugs. "Moonglow" I'm not sure what this could be other than Twilight. Not really Light, not really Shadow, but something in between. "Anger" Being able to control or invoke feelings from mild irritation to uncontrolled rage in others. "Hunger" Would most likely work like the Kanohi Avsa. "Shattering" Explosions. That's what it is, explosive energy. "Fear" Being able to control feelings from slight unease to complete terror in others. If I've missed anything or should clarify further, please do not hesitate to tell me. Also I'd like to apologize if I've ever seemed rude, it's a problem of mine.

"UNDECIDED" on Article 42. Our past discussion and Cap'n K's concerns has lead me to doubt the usefulness of the Cryalis as defined in the article. The ability to become a physical Elemental entity like the Elemental Lords would remove that doubt. "UNDECIDED" on Article 93. I have placed my concerns regarding this article here. "AYE" on Article 94. Replace "The Underworld" with "The Afterlife." "The Underworld" sounds evil and foreboding. "The Afterlife" sounds far more neutral. It might also help alleviate Ballom's concerns. Also could a being wearing a Kanohi Elda detect another being in "The Shadow Realm?" "AYE" to Article 95. My primary concern is the inclusion of the Matoran tribes, no Matoran would naturally wield these Elements. Unless their proximity to the "Tuats" caused them to mutate into Matoran with those Elements. This is just nitpicking but, I don't see the need to specify that each "Kingdom" had a "Tuat", merely state that there are six located throughout the MU and that a deceased person's soul has to pass through the nearest "Tuat" to reach "The Shadow Realm." "AYE" on Article 96. When Takutanuva only needed Jaller's mask and the sacrificing of some of his own life force to bring Jaller back; why would a Hau, three heartlights, and a ritual be needed? This one is almost ridiculously too silly and laughable to think about. "AYE" to Article 97. It is good to have something to help us avoid conflicting any of our storylines. "AYE" to Article 98. I see no reason to oppose this.

These are the Elements I will need to be persuaded to approve of: Moonglow Radiation Anger Storms Weather Elasticity Spirit Rahi Fate Technology Insects Magma Brimstone Density Disintegration Power Scream Darkness Hunger Health Shattering Poison FearScratched through indicates any negative Elements I consider as non-negotiable, because a Toa would not naturally wield these Elements and as such, neither would Matoran. I am not stating these can't be Elements, as there could be some way to artificially cause a Matoran to wield one of these Elements. Underline indicates Elements that, until I am convinced otherwise, are more in-line with powers and abilities. Colored Elements indicate Elements that I perceive as being very similar in design. I would recommend either remove one or both. Most of all, I would like to hear more about what Toa of these Elements are capable of doing. I eagerly await answers.

"NAY" to Article 73a. Leaning to "NAY." To paraphrase what I said here, this mask, as defined in the article, is pointless, because the author could have it so the character remembers without the use of the Rextou. What use would it be to remember something you already know? "AYE" to Article 77a. The "be they friend or foe alike" part has brought up a question; is the user immune to the mask's power? "UNDECIDED" on Article 88. Considering how the Power Lance amplifies all types of Elemental Energy, couldn't the Black Protosteel be somewhat inferior to it? Or is this more of a mineral or crystal with Shadow-enhancing properties that is able to be melded with metal and thus give the metal similar properties? "UNDECIDED" on Article 89. While the idea is great, I'm not sure what purpose it could serve. Matoran naturally utilize their Elemental Powers through physical traits. (Ta-Matoran are more heat resistant, Po-Matoran are stronger, etc...) Matoran also lack enough EE to manifest it like a Toa or Turaga can. A "Matoran Stone" would have to both amplify and access a Matoran's Elemental Energy for the Matoran to use it in combat. "AYE" to Article 90. I see no reason to... Wait, interstellar invaders? "AYE" to Article 91. No reason to oppose it, until, as Cap'n K said, storyline disproves this. "AYE" on Article 92. Toa-like beings with no Elemental Powers, sounds like misplaced Glatorian to me.Maybe the Matoran name for them?

I concur with you both. "Probation" seems to be the best course of action in this instance, but I would like to hear Tarth's excuse for his absence. Until then, Ballom's idea for "Vote Nullification" should be put to use.

Before I started college, I hadn't either. But when one works odd hours, you don't always get to see the back of your eyelids.

Welcome to the college diet.

A Toa of Air is not too powerful because a gust of wind is just that, a gust of wind. If a Toa of Air pins you against a wall with a cyclone, all you're getting hit by is air. (And what ever the cyclone picks up, but that's not my point.) If a Kanohi Wit user pins you with a cyclone, you're going to get paralyzed. And unless you have some kind of mental powers, you are helpless. That is why I do not support using the wind to carry the power. Even my Kanohi Rethus, with its absolutely horrifying power, could be fought against. Given Koji's examples, he plans to have the user, a Toa, use the mask to kill virtually helpless opponents. If that's not against the Toa Code I don't know what is. Not to mention, the fact that there's no point in tranquilizing then killing someone, except to get an easy kill. Tranquilization is normally used for capture purposes.

My main problem is the fact that utilizing the wind makes the power unavoidable. You can't dodge the wind. To be fully honest, entwining the power with the wind seems to be more for theatrics than any practical purpose. Eye beams or even physical contact from the user are some simpler, more practical ways to that would make me support the Article. Based on what you're saying, the Rextou sounds more like a Mask of Memory Recall. Why would it need to exist when you, the author, could simply have the character remember what you need he or she to remember? Maybe said character has a photographic memory or something. And what was the purpose of setting a range limit if the mask could only recall what the wearer already knows? A Mask of Information would most likely make the user a walking encyclopedia, granting the user knowledge of everything the user needs to know and then saying it out loud. Of course, it would have to constantly be on a low power so the user blurts out random facts about anything and everything at anytime spontaneously.(If you couldn't tell, I'd support this version just for its possible entertainment value. )