Padishah Mehmet II

So wait did you guys leave Orismer out purposefully

IT I KNEW WE FORGOT SOMETHING

-Dovydas

Wait 2 walls of text for one RP? 

 

Is there no way to consolidate, like I'm sure the game is great but there is a such thing as too much info. 

We've thrown out the stops on this. I'm sorry. I can't find them again.

-Dovydas

Which is a problem we're going to have to deal with. The Ingenium will inevitably stop working eventually - worst case scenario, Vuhon sacrifices all the souls on Vvardenfell, even if Sul doesn't break the Ingenium in this timeline, and comes to the realisation that this was a temporary fix at best and whoops we're all dead again - so what I am saying is that for the love of Christ I don't understand why you seem to want to pick the most inconvenient parts of the timeline to have a TBRPG in. Can't you just choose a time when nothing major was happening and /make up/?

as for ripping vvardenfell out of the ground

you know, if your main intention was to prevent roleplaying elsewhere, you could just say, "The RPG takes place on Vvardenfell" and no one would even THINK of violating its boundaries.

-dovydas (fontless, as I'm on my phone)

Has it occured to you that

around that time

Vivec disappeared?

I don't want to second-guess you before I know anything more, but being in the middle of the ocean

with Vivec disappearing

and, you know, Baar Dau falling on Vivec City, triggering the Red Year because that's what happens when Vivec's not there to keep it afloat

WHILE WE'RE STUCK BEHIND A GIANT WALL OF FIRE

seems like an overly plotholed situation, you know? Unless your intention is for all of us to die.

-Dovydas

why did you rip vvardenfell out and toss it to the ocean exactly

-Dovydas

i'm a grammar syndicalist, not a grammar communist

i believe in redistributing capitalisation among democratically organised grammar trade unions.

In regards to Dov, I've heard he's Dunmer expert no. 1, and I'd be more than happy to have his lore knowledge and experience.

Also, I would be very much glad to work with you in any manner that I might make myself useful, be it simple help in setting everything up or co-GMing, however is best.

-Dovydas

will you guys stop saying my name without capitalising it already

it's demeaning when you capitalise everyone else's names but not mine

-dovydas

Now, imagine, if you will, the community responds with "Wow! That's a great story, but we're not gonna like it unless it takes place in Victorian London with a steampunk setting."

I don't usually like being mean, but that's not at all what the community's reaction was.

It's more the opposite, really. I'd have phrased it, in the most polite way possible, "Pls go back to the drawing board and Square 1"

Vvardenfell's a big place, so it makes sense to concentrate most players into one spot as they arrive and let them spread out from that point. Plus, it's not exactly gonna be too terribly hard to leave your starting location thanks to boat service and slit striders.

As for this, this is simply the most ridiculous thing I have heard. This is not a MMORPG. This is not a computer game.

Do you understand how roleplays actually work?

-Dovydas

With all due respect, I can't be arsed to play a game whose GM thinks his job is to get the players to "see things his way".

That's not what GMing is about, in my modest opinion.

-Dovydas

I guess I've always preferred it when everything is fine and dandy, and then goes to Oblivion, i.e. Oblivion, where the day is fine and dandy until someone, say... assassinates the Emperor. That's kinda why I wanted to have it be in Hammerfell, because as far as we know, Hammerfell is in a good place right now. The Crowns and Forebears are cooperating, the Dominion got kicked out of there, everything is in working order. As GMs, wouldn't it be fun to make their lives miserable? Say, Daedric attacks, return of some pretty angry Dwemer who've been stuck in Oblivion for a few eras, of course dealing with dragons, instigating a civil war...

 

It's just an interesting setting to me. Morrowind, on the other hand, has been pretty torn up already, it'd be hard to make things worse; Argonians from the south, the Red Year, the evacuation to Solstheim... Azura isn't exactly smiling upon the Dunmeri people. And that's just the Fourth Era! First Era had the Nordic invasion, the Battle of Red Mountain, the Dwemer going *poof,* Nerevar dying... To you guys, that sounds interesting, but to me, that just bores me. 

 

To me, it's more fun to make characters miserable than to make miserable characters.

Personally, I thought the idea of a game was to have fun and to write a narrative, not to cause misery.

i think you're way underestimating the cost of what it took for the redguard to repel the thalmor. the place is cut off from the empire entirely and pretty much fending for itself right now, not exactly capable of making them much more miserable than they are already

 

-Tyler

Also this. Morrowind is a far happier place at the time of Skyrim than Hammerfell, as despite the war it's more or less rebuilt and is well away from both Imperial and Thalmor conflict or dominance.

-Dovydas

 

Wasn't there something about Sanguine having thousands of really tiny planes instead of one large one? Also, Apocrypha's nice (Hermaeus Mora's tied for my fav Daedric Prince) but how would we work around either Miraak or the aftermath of the Dragonborn DLC? If we put it anytime post Dragon War (pretty much the beginning of the 1st Era) we'll have to deal with that.

 

I say post-Dragonborn so we can have Hermaeus look for a new Champion.

 

If we end up going with Morrowind (and mind you, a Hammerfell RPG wouldn't be bad, I just think the lore is richer, the geography/geology/biology/topography is more diverse, and there's more of a Elder-Scrolls-Player interest, in Morrowind, adding to retention) I'd suggest something during the Aldmeri-Imperial War - more lore to pick from. Perhaps the Aldmeri Dominion can ###### with Morrowind's government in some way (offer bribes, blackmail, etc) that'd stir the pot of corruption in the province. Allows players to get their proverbial toes wet in as many ways as political and societal instability might allow while automatically generating plot content and liberally spreading it around.

 

IMO choosing where to set in Oblivion should be accessory to the main location and plot.

 

Not a fan of this timeline proposal, tbh. Morrowind in the age of the Imperial-Aldmeri War was in some serious rebuilding after the Red Year and its conflict with the Argonians; both the Imperials, that most Dunmer hate with a passion, and the Aldmeri, who the Dunmer don't particularly trust because they initially supported the Argonians, were seen as enemies that should be shot at the border. Unless we want a game about us rebuilding our crab-shell huts after Argonian armies burned them down, let's not place the game in that historical timeline.

Granted, then again, there are some possibilities for interesting plot in that time. House Hlaalu's exile, the dominance of House Redoran, etc. Still, imho, let's set it either later (post-Skyrim, which I am inherently not a fan of because I feel like it will become a contest for whose Dragonborn was canon) or earlier than the Fourth Era, because a half-wrecked country is not entirely fun to play in.

There's also the Red Year. An atmosphere of total warfare between the Argonians and the Dunmer would be rather interesting to place an RPG in, even if a little straightforward; the plot wouldn't be too complicated, as the war itself wasn't too complicated, just two sides going at it. So, then again, there's a lot more historical events in Morrowind's history that were more politically fascinating and could fit better for an RPG.

-Dovydas

Here's an ambitious proposal: how about all of them that we know something about?

I mean, there's some pretty vivid descriptions of most realms of oblivion mentioned in lore so far, I can't say why there's a particular reason we should allow people to visit one but not all of them

-Dovydas

As the primary Dunmeri nationalist of this forum, I have to insist on Morrowind.

I would also like to suggest something nontraditional: it being set not in the Fourth Era, with all its "everything is going to **** now", but in the First Era, in the times of Nerevar Indoril. Because Dwemer, Nords and Chimer going at it with everything short of nuclear weapons is a perfect setting.

-Dovydas

I doubt most skakdi would argue with it, though.

you cannot possibly be that daft.

-Dov

Well, you're the one I've noticed it from the most. And you're a staff member, so...

 

Eh. I haven't gotten to deploy 'son of a skakdi' from my repertoire of in-universe curses, I realize...

Purely theoretically, that's bloody racism.

-Dov

And yet, doubt snuck into Stanley's mind: perhaps it was not the end? Perhaps he could still yet make amends?

"... Naaaah," thought Stanley, and flung himself over the edge.

-Dov

Stanley turned on them in a bloodbath, being a vampire and all.

-Dov

However, the flawed system of funding for the local national healthcare service meant Stanley came back as a vampire.

-Dov

I have walked many thousands of miles to see this and would eagerly walk a thousand more.

-Dovydas

I'm far past being affected by such primal emotions, but rather look at the female form as a elegant expression of natural physical beauty. (Similar, not not quite the same way a doctor's typical response to certain human anatomy, which most people would otherwise feel uncomfortable with... I guess I'm more like a doctor in that sense.)

 

The metaphysical understanding of natural beauty transcends sensual passions, and is an intellectual appreciation for quintessential beauty as whole. The emotions expressed between the two fictional characters are romantified to express the feelings of love between two beings. One bears fiery masculine qualities, and the other liquified feminine qualities.

 

When together, the two are balanced and become spiritually connected, which is meant to be a beautiful element. Their physical image is suppose to reflect that beautiful elements and capture these qualities found within the characters in that image.

How does this even compute.

-Dovydas

Cautious excitement. Hopefully it isn't just a reboot.

Sadly, logic dictates that it probably is.

-Dovydas

Here's hoping for an FCG rebirth. I mean, if I crawled out of my caves to hear these news, so can everyone else.

-Dovydas

Flynn, hey, hi, mate, it's me, your old friend, the guy who mercilessly slaughtered your characters for rulebreaking in his TBRPG a way, way, way long time ago without an ounce of regret and MUCH, much more than an ounce of pride.

I have bad news and bad news. First bad news is that you have not changed a bit. Second bad news is that you are a step away from repeating your cycle of misfortune, and all the carnage (for you) and entertainment (for us) that comes with it. Self-deprecatory morons have a habit of saying that history repeats itself. I await this particular repeat with trepidation, I must say.
-Dovydas

IC: Roland Hamilton

"Pleased to be making your acquaintance then, Gaven and Wulf," I said, smiling slightly. "So how's life on this ship of yours?"

IC: Roland Hamilton

Picking up my food, I proceeded down to where another newly found comrade called out to me and sat down next to them. "Uh, hello. As I suppose you know, I'm Roland. Don't have the pleasure of knowing your name yet."