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Have I complained about Jurassic World here yet?


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You groan. "No," you grouch, "and I was hoping you never would." However, you clicked on an entry about Jurassic Park by me knowing full well what that entails, so chances are you're going to read the whole thing anyway.

 

Jurassic World is the latest in a series of movies that have probably done as much harm to public perception of dinosaurs as they have good. However, its impact will be worse than the previous three, almost entirely because of when it's being released.

 

Jurassic Park, for all the flaws I will happily call out, was actually rather revolutionary for a dinosaur film. Besides some very stupid errors, the dinosaurs were portrayed as more active and more realistic as animals than ever before. It brought then-modern depictions of dinosaurs to an audience that sorely needed to see them. This, I acknowledge.

 

Now, it's been what, twenty years since the original movie? Something like that? Why, we've discovered all kinds of things about dinosaurs since then! Think of the feathers! Think of the lifestyles we can emulate from our best guesses! Think of how much we could expand on the original movie's idea of dinosaurs evolving into birds! Thinking of all that?

 

Well, they didn't. In fact, they practically thumb their nose at paleontologists with the phrase "We have learned more in the past decade from genetics than a century of digging up bones". Just as Jurassic Park brought dinosaurs from the 90s to the audiences in the 90s, so too does Jurassic World bring dinosaurs from the 90s to audiences in 2015. Their skin is wrinkly and elephantine, their pupils are slitted, and even their mosasaur has a "frill" running down its back, straight from a 60's illustration.

 

And it's not just me who's disappointed. Actual paleontologists, people who make their career doing this sort of thing, are disappointed in how little thought was put into this. If Jurassic Park was a loving nod to paleontology, Jurassic World is a kick in the groin. This isn't a dinosaur movie, it's a monster movie.

 

Now, there are a couple arguments as to why the dinosaurs "needed" to look like this, most of which are complete bull. The first thing anyone says is "continuity", which is absurd, because if it was about continuity, the dinosaurs would not look like those from the first movie; they'd look like those from the third, the last Jurassic Park movie before this one. That's how continuity works.

 

"They were genetically engineered to look this way!" Okay, who's going to say that to the audience? Who's going to straight-up say "this is not what actual dinosaurs looked like"? Or is this being left up to fan theories to explain away criticisms made by people who care? Because if nobody in the movie says "this is not what dinosaurs look like", a majority of the people who see the movie will think "this is what dinosaurs look like", which is what I care about here. It's not just about the inaccurate depictions, but about the fact that people take these inaccurate depictions as fact. As a result, there are people who will vehemently oppose any dinosaur depiction that doesn't match what they saw in Jurassic Park. That's why it matters how clear it is that this is not how dinosaurs looked.

 

Next up, someone says "it's just a movie" and tells me to stop making such a big deal out of this. I smirk like a Yu-Gi-Oh character as I reveal you have activated my trap card, Scientific Study. It rationally explains the effect media has on public understanding of science, sending your Bad Argument to the Shadow Realm. I place a face-down card and end my turn.

 

"So then, Wise Jess," you say, bowing before my humble form, "what do you think the reason for not changing the dinosaurs is?"

 

Well, it's simple: nostalgia. A majority of the people who are going to buy tickets for this movie are already enormous fans of the original film, and what that means is they've already made up their mind about changing their precious "velociraptors" and "T rexes" and they will not stand for any of it. Just look at the massive backlash paleontologists have received for voicing their concerns; the Jurassic Park fanbase is very resistant to changes in our understanding of paleontology. Just about any BANDit (BAND=Birds Are Not Dinosaurs) will cite Jurassic Park depictions as what they believe dinosaurs looked like as they fight against the idea of feathered dinosaurs.

 

So in the end, this was a foregone conclusion. Dinosaurs are so entrenched in the idea they have to look "cool" that at this point, the Jurassic Park franchise has no choice but to stick with outdated dinosaurs until the end of time, or else they lose their fanbase, which claims to "love" dinosaurs. Love is in quotations, because as I put it rather recently:

This is our best understanding of what dinosaurs were like, plain and simple. If you dislike that, fine, enjoy your movie monsters with slobbering jaws and elephantine grey skin. But just remember every day you do so that what you're enjoying isn't dinosaurs. You stopped loving dinosaurs long ago. What you love now is a crude, outdated facsimile that you cling to like a security blanket because it's "awesome".

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"We genetically engineered"

 

nope

 

stop

 

youre going to be wrong all over everything that is not how genetics works your entire movie is wrong

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I concur. It is a monster movie, not a dinosaur movie. The monsters just so happen to resemble the reptiles of the Paleozoic. ('cause that includes everything- dinosaurs, pterosaurs, all the sea reptiles, etc.) I can't see why someone would go to see Jurassic World for a reason besides to see a dramatic movie about zoo with prehistoric monsters. I share your viewpoints, but I'm not as vocal about them. We need more people like you.

 

 

Also feathered dinosaurs are awesome. The idea is much cooler IMO.

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(*Minor spoilers in this comment, maybe?*)

 

I'm actually wondering if this movie is going to acknowledge that it's creatures are more monster than dinosaur, seeing as how one of the (rumored) creatures in the movie is meant to be an artificial "fusion" of multiple dinosaur species. I can't imagine the story going that route without some of the characters wondering about just what is being created on that island.

 

Anyway, we'll see. All I know is that I like Colin Trevorrow's last film so I'm going into this one cautiously optimistic.

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i know like zilch about dinosaurs and paleontology, but it's pretty bothersome they didn't think to add in more influences from modern findings and advances in paleontology (y'know like up from the 0 it uses). like, feathers look really fantastic (though tbh all i've seen is art and artist depictions thereof, not necessarily scientific and factual depictions), and i wont really understand why people would rather see like, the inaccurate and incorrect version when there's a more accurate, more correct, better idea of what they were like available. 

 

for how dramatic and cool it is to see a massive monster shoot out from the water to devour a fish, what made that cool tome when i was younger was like "woah that was -real-?" but now it's more like "well... these never really existed as they do here, which kinda takes away the wow factor."

 

there's prolly bigger concerns and stuff than where my mind is coming from, but yeah im not really superbly educated on this stuff at all x.x;;

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Well, yeah, the Jurassic Park movies have always been monster movies.. And monster movies are supposed to be scary. It's kind of hard to accomplish that when the creatures chasing and eating the humans look like overgrown chickens. At this point, if they wanted to respect science, they should have just created a new franchise that wasn't about scares and was simply about wonder. But the current state of Hollywood renders that scenario impossible, when blockbusters have to be "pre-sold" and executives would rather green light rehash after rehash than something truly original.

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Well, yeah, the Jurassic Park movies have always been monster movies.. And monster movies are supposed to be scary. It's kind of hard to accomplish that when the creatures chasing and eating the humans look like overgrown chickens.

 

I'm not going to say feathered dinosaurs definitely looked cool/scary/whatever because that just feeds into the problem but i will say that "overgrown *bird name*" is a complaint so old, so lazy, and so stupid, that even the original Jurassic Park made fun of it.

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It's kind of hard to accomplish that when the creatures chasing and eating the humans look like overgrown chickens.

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You can now stop pretending that's a valid argument.

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It's kind of hard to accomplish that when the creatures chasing and eating the humans look like overgrown chickens.

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You can now stop pretending that's a valid argument.

 

 

 

It looks like the T-Rex is wearing a fashionable feather coat. Not exactly what I'd call scary - if I saw the actors in Jurassic World running away from that, I think it'd take about half a second for me to burst out in laughter. My argument stands.

 

 

Re: birds aren't scary. Have you ever event seen a cassowary?

 

It looks like it'd go pretty good with a side of fries.

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Your argument is rooted entirely in subjective opinion, actually; whether it stands or not is in the eye of who reads it. You personally being rooted in the idea that feathered dinosaurs could not be scary is not definitive proof that they cannot be scary to a majority of people.

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Your argument is rooted entirely in subjective opinion, actually; whether it stands or not is in the eye of who reads it. You personally being rooted in the idea that feathered dinosaurs could not be scary is not definitive proof that they cannot be scary to a majority of people.

 

Indeed. And there was nothing in my original post that suggested I thought my argument was absolute. I was simply pointing out what I personally feel may be the root of the decisions made with the Jurassic World movie. I could be wrong, and you could be entirely right about it being nothing more than nostalgia. But I have my suspicions otherwise.

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I think if Hollywood truly wanted to have an honest go at presenting scary feathered dinosaurs, they could definitely make it happen. Therefore, the issue is in them not wanting to actually attempt that, and the reasoning for that is most people (like yourself) have already made up their minds that feathered dinosaurs could never be scary, and as I said, that is, for most people, rooted in nostalgia for the first movie, and the idea that any change from that is terrible. (Just look at the backlash JPIII received for daring to make small modifications to the raptor designs, and for daring to present another dinosaur as stronger than Tyrannosaurus!)

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On the subject of Hollywood making things scary:

 

  1. Michael Myers wears an inside out Kirk mask.
  2. The Xenomorph was originally intended to crabwalk around.
  3. Jaws is about a giant fish who gets killed by an exploding oxygen tank.

 

Do you really think it's impossible to make twelve tons of feather, muscle, and teeth scary?

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I think if Hollywood truly wanted to have an honest go at presenting scary feathered dinosaurs, they could definitely make it happen. Therefore, the issue is in them not wanting to actually attempt that, and the reasoning for that is most people (like yourself) have already made up their minds that feathered dinosaurs could never be scary, and as I said, that is, for most people, rooted in nostalgia for the first movie, and the idea that any change from that is terrible. (Just look at the backlash JPIII received for daring to make small modifications to the raptor designs, and for daring to present another dinosaur as stronger than Tyrannosaurus!)

 

Except that from what we know of the plot, Jurassic World is basically recycling the "blasphemy" of JPIII, by establishing an entirely make believe dinosaur as the new king of dino-kind. Honestly, the whole movie reeks less of respect for the fans to me and more of pure laziness. (I guess I forgot to mention that I'm not actually defending the movie). The plot appears to be basically a remake of the original Jurassic Park, with a bunch of crazy new junk tacked on (brand new dinosaurs! Raptor commandos! The park actually opens, meaning more death!). The movie, in other words, is attempting to remake the first movie to better suit the tastes of modern moviegoers, many of whom seem to crave mindless action and explosions more than anything else. It's not about pleasing the nostalgia driven internet goers, its about trying to wow the masses in the laziest way possible. Thus, instead of a brand new, more realistic take on dinosaurs, we get whatever the D-Rex is going to be, and in all likely-hood its going to be just another attempt to one-up the T-Rex from the first movie. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it has horns and breathes fire. I'm sure the movie executives are patting themselves on the back as we speak.

 

Then again, they might have a point. I'm not sure I could ever bring myself to be scared by something that looks as soft as a feather pillow. I'm open to being proven wrong, but none of the artwork I've seen is really doing it for me. Has anyone tried to do a Jurassic Park quality CGI illustration with the realistic dinos? It's possible they might be more scary with less lighting and more dimension, although I'm not crossing my fingers.

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Honestly, I think there is some merit to the "it's just a movie" argument, in the sense that the now-outdated dinosaur is by now a pop culture fixture, and has value as a now somewhat traditional movie monster. (which is pretty much what it's always been delegated to)  Closest thing I can think of off the top of my head is King Kong. I mean, obviously it's not a reflection of real life, but we accept that because it's fiction and he's ultimately just a movie monster. By now, Hollywood's brand of dinosaurs are much the same. In itself, I don't really think there's anything wrong with that.

 

The real problem is that the movie monster is stuck with the same name as the real life dinosaurs, and that a bigger effort isn't made to divorce the fictionalized, outdated interpretation from public perception of actual dinosaurs. Because unlike with the giant gorilla, it's not so obvious to people that what they're seeing isn't accurate to what dinosaurs actually looked like. (after all (and this is probably another argument used to argue in favor of this misinterpretation) the average movie-goer doesn't really benefit in any meaningful way from knowing what animals that have been extinct for millions of years looked like, so there isn't any real interest from the side of the audience to actually know). And that is definitely a problem.

 

Of course, for what it's worth (like, a sad dollar, i guess) it's not like this carelessness is exclusive to dinosaurs or anything. Hollywood continually mangles all manner of topics such as: hacking, computers, genetics, basic physics, and certain bodily functions. The movie Lucy just this past summer was based on that old "10% of the brain" nonsense, for instance. Hollywood cares for naught.

 

All I know is I'm just going because Chris Pratt.

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