msw41 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 As the title says, do the pearl silver Toa Mata Kanohi have any purpose canon-wise, other than simply looking cool? I know the silver Nuva Kanohi were de-powered, is it the same sort of thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuragaNuva Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 It's essentially the same thing: when a Great Kanohi isn't being worn, it's silver. But when a Toa puts it on, their elemental energy fills the mask and changes it to their color (when removed, it changes back to silver). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw41 Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 It's essentially the same thing: when a Great Kanohi isn't being worn, it's silver. But when a Toa puts it on, their elemental energy fills the mask and changes it to their color (when removed, it changes back to silver).Oh of course! That’s fantastic thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesy Mac n Cheese Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 There’s also the first Takanuva set: the Ussanui has a grey Hau on it, which is meant to be Jaller’s. It’s not being worn (Jaller was dead at the time), therefore it’s grey. Quote My friend went to Po-Wahi and all I got was this lousy rock. Blue sea...a Ruki leaps...the sound of water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toatapio Nuva Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Interestingly, back in 2002 we were told that the silver Kanohi represented fusions of three ordinary Kanohi, whereas the golden masks were fusions of six. It wasn't until later that fans started to see the silver masks as not-worn Kanohi. Understandable really, since it makes much more sense that way and we never had any "lesser versions" of the golden Kanohi in story. 1 Quote My BZPRPG profiles - Viima, Lai Lai Kirgan, Jarkale, Hile, Tuli + Kavala, Khervos, Thira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Inika Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Interestingly, back in 2002 we were told that the silver Kanohi represented fusions of three ordinary Kanohi, whereas the golden masks were fusions of six. It wasn't until later that fans started to see the silver masks as not-worn Kanohi. Understandable really, since it makes much more sense that way and we never had any "lesser versions" of the golden Kanohi in story.I've noticed three different possible colors for unworn Kanohi: dark gray (based on the Hau in the Takanuva set), light gray (based on one scene in MNOG), and silver. Worth noting that light gray is also the color of Turaga Nuju's masks. My understanding was that the original declared purpose of the Silver Kanohi was three-in-one power, but that was basically retconned since they were never actually referenced or used. Wairuha has a silver Miru in MNOG, if that counts for anything. Quote "You are an absolute in these uncertain times. Your past is forgotten, and your future is an empty book. You must find your own destiny, my brave adventurer." -- Turaga Nokama Click here to visit my library! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuragaNuva Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Interestingly, back in 2002 we were told that the silver Kanohi represented fusions of three ordinary Kanohi, whereas the golden masks were fusions of six. It wasn't until later that fans started to see the silver masks as not-worn Kanohi. Understandable really, since it makes much more sense that way and we never had any "lesser versions" of the golden Kanohi in story.Really? As early as comic #3, Lewa's Miru turns silver when it's removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesy Mac n Cheese Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Interestingly, back in 2002 we were told that the silver Kanohi represented fusions of three ordinary Kanohi, whereas the golden masks were fusions of six. It wasn't until later that fans started to see the silver masks as not-worn Kanohi. Understandable really, since it makes much more sense that way and we never had any "lesser versions" of the golden Kanohi in story.Really? As early as comic #3, Lewa's Miru turns silver when it's removed.I think you’re referring to the story included in the Power Pack to explain the chrome Hau (standing in for a Rua). I don’t think silver masks were ever officially meant to be a three-mask fusion, since the Aki (also introduced in 2001) is a three-mask fusion, yet it’s gold. Quote My friend went to Po-Wahi and all I got was this lousy rock. Blue sea...a Ruki leaps...the sound of water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toatapio Nuva Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) From the Greg Q&A Nov 15, 2003: Q: What are the powers of the Golden and Silver Kanohi? I have heard many different answers. I know that the silver Kanohi are masks that are powerless or not being worn, but do they have any additional powers? And does a Golden Kanohi allow to use multiple powers (say, shielding and levitation) at the same time? Some people have said that a Golden Kanohi also has the power of Valor, but that is Aki.A: My belief is that the golden Kanohi has three powers and the silver has the other three.Note how Greg seemed to think that the golden Kanohi also only had three powers... that's a weird one. Q: Can you clear up the silver / gray debate? All of the pictures show un-worn Kanohi as silver, and the depleted Kanohi Nuva are always silver. We know that unworn Kanohi Nuva are silver, so why wouldn’t other masks be too? Where did the “gray” idea come from?A: I have never thought of unworn Kanohi as silver .. because there already are silver Kanohi which are not inactive. I have always seen them as gray, myself. And much later, in Mar 10, 2007: 1. Did the silver Kanohi ever appear in the story-line?A. No In summary, Greg never saw the silver Kanohi as representing unworn Kanohi. However, from very early on fans have interpreted them as such, because it makes sense. Just another example of a situation where it's simply better to ignore Greg. But canonically, the silver Kanohi are combinations of three mask powers. Edited May 3, 2019 by Toatapio Nuva Quote My BZPRPG profiles - Viima, Lai Lai Kirgan, Jarkale, Hile, Tuli + Kavala, Khervos, Thira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesy Mac n Cheese Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 From the Greg Q&A Nov 15, 2003: Q: What are the powers of the Golden and Silver Kanohi? I have heard many different answers. I know that the silver Kanohi are masks that are powerless or not being worn, but do they have any additional powers? And does a Golden Kanohi allow to use multiple powers (say, shielding and levitation) at the same time? Some people have said that a Golden Kanohi also has the power of Valor, but that is Aki. A: My belief is that the golden Kanohi has three powers and the silver has the other three.Note how Greg seemed to think that the golden Kanohi also only had three powers... that's a weird one.Q: Can you clear up the silver / gray debate? All of the pictures show un-worn Kanohi as silver, and the depleted Kanohi Nuva are always silver. We know that unworn Kanohi Nuva are silver, so why wouldn’t other masks be too? Where did the “gray” idea come from? A: I have never thought of unworn Kanohi as silver .. because there already are silver Kanohi which are not inactive. I have always seen them as gray, myself.And much later, in Mar 10, 2007:1. Did the silver Kanohi ever appear in the story-line?A. NoIn summary, Greg never saw the silver Kanohi as representing unworn Kanohi. However, from very early on fans have interpreted them as such, because it makes sense. Just another example of a situation where it's simply better to ignore Greg. But canonically, the silver Kanohi are combinations of three mask powers.I think ge’s said more recently (maybe on the LMB) that the silver Kanohi from the mask packs represent unworn masks (weren’t those a little on the grey side anyway? They were darker than the typical silver color, as I recall). Quote My friend went to Po-Wahi and all I got was this lousy rock. Blue sea...a Ruki leaps...the sound of water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toatapio Nuva Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 I think ge’s said more recently (maybe on the LMB) that the silver Kanohi from the mask packs represent unworn masks (weren’t those a little on the grey side anyway? They were darker than the typical silver color, as I recall). Well, he might've changed his view on them. About time, really. Quote My BZPRPG profiles - Viima, Lai Lai Kirgan, Jarkale, Hile, Tuli + Kavala, Khervos, Thira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesy Mac n Cheese Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 I think ge’s said more recently (maybe on the LMB) that the silver Kanohi from the mask packs represent unworn masks (weren’t those a little on the grey side anyway? They were darker than the typical silver color, as I recall).Well, he might've changed his view on them. About time, really.Alas, I can’t find a source at the moment. Quote My friend went to Po-Wahi and all I got was this lousy rock. Blue sea...a Ruki leaps...the sound of water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Inika Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Is there any official storyline source for what they are at all? Or did LEGO just produce them and for whatever reason never acknowledge them in the story? Not that I'm complaining; they're cool masks just to have. Quote "You are an absolute in these uncertain times. Your past is forgotten, and your future is an empty book. You must find your own destiny, my brave adventurer." -- Turaga Nokama Click here to visit my library! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesy Mac n Cheese Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Is there any official storyline source for what they are at all? Or did LEGO just produce them and for whatever reason never acknowledge them in the story? Not that I'm complaining; they're cool masks just to have.I don’t think so, no. Could be that LEGO saw that unused masks were dull grey, so they produced dull metallic grey masks to represent them, or maybe silver and gold just go together so stereotypically well that they made silver masks just to complement the gold ones. Quote My friend went to Po-Wahi and all I got was this lousy rock. Blue sea...a Ruki leaps...the sound of water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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