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Rectifying Misinformation


Queen of Noise

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I posted this earlier today elsewhere on BZ, but I think it should reach a larger audience. A surprising number of people on this web site do not seem to be well-informed about the topic and are prone to comparing others to things they apparently know nothing about. I hope to help educate people and remedy the problem with this brief summary.

 

I want to tell you all about the National Socialist German Workers Party, commonly known as the Nazi Party.

 

The Nazis were a specific political party in Germany from 1919 to 1945 headed by a man you may have hear of--he was named Adolf Hitler. Just like any political party it was, at its core, something built around ideological principles--the principles this party stood for were extreme nationalism, anti-parlimentarism, collectivism, and strong opposition to the Treaty of Versailles (which ended World War I and, they argued, left Germany in a shattered economic state).

 

The Nazis first tried to seize power in the Beer Hall Putsch, a failed coup d'état attempt that left Hitler in jail--a time which he used to write Mein Kampf, a ponderously long dissertation of racist and fascist principles. Upon his release, Hitler reformed the Nazi party and mobilized, and in 1933 he became Chancellor of Germany. Establishing himself as "Der Führer," he speedily transformed Germany into an entirely totalitarian state. With absolute power and armies of stormtroopers at his fingertips, he instituted and upheld regime of racism, fear, and bloated nationalism.

 

And what did Hilter's regime do? They started the largest war of the twentieth century, what came to be called World War II. he invaded other countries and conquered a greater portion of an entire continent. Countless soldiers and civilians died because the Nazis wanted power. And what did they do back home while their armies were killing people abroad? They committed a massive genocide we now call "the Holocaust." Countless innocent people were rounded up, shuttled to death camps, tortured, and killed. By the millions. People were mutilated and murdered simply because the Nazis deemed them "inferior." The Nazi party represented the ultimate in racism.

 

That's what it means to be a Nazi. Murder. Genocide. Burning people alive in furnaces. Throwing human beings in chambers of poisonous gas. Showering people in corrosive acid. Performing gross medical and scientific experiments on still-living persons. Loading people into trains and shuttling them to extermination camps. Shooting someone in the head in the middle of the street just because his race or religion is different.

 

That's what Nazis did.

 

 

So, why am I giving you guys this history lesson? Well, simply because many people seem to have never learned it.

 

 

Please, if you're going to use a word or term, especially to describe other people, please make sure you know what it means first. Otherwise you'll probably make a comparison that makes no sense, and you'll look like a raving lunatic.

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I agree with you entirely. Now I get to explain why people use the term "Nazi" as an insult.

 

There's this thing called the "Hitler Card", that is, when someone makes a comparison to Hitler or the Nazis. When people do this, they do indeed shatter the opponent's argument for the moment. Everyone does indeed know what Hitler did, and so they say "This guy = Hitler, Hitler = bad, ergo, this guy = bad. Don't listen to him." No matter how reasonable the guy is. People know this stuff, which is why they call people Nazis.

 

Of course, yes, like you said, it does indeed backfire and then make the person who used it look like an cool dude. Which, ironically, is exactly what happened to Hitler in WWII.

 

So its potency does not come from people not knowing what it means, it comes from people knowing what it means.

 

:w:

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You're still awesome.

 

This reminds me of something I've heard a few times – I forget the title of it, but there's this unspoken rule that the first person to reference Hitler/the Nazi party in an argument (in such a way that this entry is addressing) immediately loses the argument.

 

A good rule, I think.

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You're still awesome.

 

This reminds me of something I've heard a few times – I forget the title of it, but there's this unspoken rule that the first person to reference Hitler/the Nazi party in an argument (in such a way that this entry is addressing) immediately loses the argument.

 

A good rule, I think.

It's like 9/11 in this year's USA elections. ;)

 

But yeah, Smeag, kep kickin' the awesomeness. Maybe people will come to terms with the word 'maturity'....

 

<<DV>>

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This reminds me of something I've heard a few times – I forget the title of it, but there's this unspoken rule that the first person to reference Hitler/the Nazi party in an argument (in such a way that this entry is addressing) immediately loses the argument.

Godwin's Law, and it's not unspoken, hence the wiki article.

 

I just think it's a bit OTT to post this history lesson. I mean, yes comparing some things on here to Hitler is OTT as well, but I don't really think you need to go into such a rant =|

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Ah, yes, Godwin's law. Tufi was so kind as to remind me of the title – and to think she was the one who told me about it in the first place...
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I don't really think it's "Over the top" to take offense at being directly compared to a racist, genocidal psychopath. Repeatedly. For asinine reasons.
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I don't really think it's "Over the top" to take offense at being directly compared to a racist, genocidal psychopath. Repeatedly. For asinine reasons.

Especially if said psychopath and his henchmen (nearly) conquered the countries of those who are are being targeted by the comparison.

 

(I really don't like being compared to a guy who almost conquered my country. -_-)

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Thank you for teaching the ignorant uneducated folk a good lesson. Hopefully they know what they are talking about next time.

 

-Omi

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