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#81 Offline Malevolence

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Posted Nov 06 2011 - 02:35 PM

"As for the social part, I'm more introverted than extroverted, but I like hanging out with my friends and stuff."That's 96% of all teenyboppers.This is why I prefer to focus on the other aspects of Asperger's because the 'social' aspect gets the main focus and thus people think being shy/introverted means being an Asperger's.Aside from immediate family, I'm uncomfortable talking to anyone, regardless of how 'well' I know them.
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Posted Nov 06 2011 - 06:57 PM

Hello, fellow Bionicle-obsessed aspies :biggrin:. I've been diagnosed since I was about seven.

I've been into BIONICLE since I was seven. It's annoying when NTs (mostly my parents) try to make it stop. Atm, I'm also into North Korea, Marxist-Leninism, and My Little Pony. :)

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Posted Nov 07 2011 - 05:41 PM

I'm an Aspie! My first obsession was Bionicle; I became a fan of it in 2003. My obsessions range from Warriors to The Mentalist to Psych to the Old Farmer's Almanac to the Legion of Extraordinary Dancers. (Yes, I did just include The Mentalist and Psych in one sentence. :P) I also love music, writing stories, and reading.

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Posted Nov 09 2011 - 05:50 PM

I'm obsessed with Bionicle and Yugioh, and formerly Bakugan. And for the social part, I dunno, I have a few friends, but I'm not that interested in initiating friendships.
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Posted Nov 09 2011 - 09:05 PM

I thought I had Asperger's. But turns out I do not. I have borderline personality complex. Maybe. I dunno. I've never gone to a shrink. My ex is a student of psychology and tells me of all these awful awful things I may have, which applies to practically everyone in the world.It's all Kane-Ra droppings to me.
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Posted Nov 09 2011 - 09:11 PM

^Reminds me of the Episode of One Foot In The Grave, Where Victor Meldrew starts leafing through the medical dictionary and starts believing he has every horrible problem...and then there's the page on Zip Fastener injuries....ow...
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Posted Nov 09 2011 - 11:59 PM

One infuriating thing I see about people who, one way or another, have found themselves "diagnosed" with High-Functioning Autism, is that they do have a tendency to build up walls. First it's the whole "Aspie" nickname, then it's calling everyone else "neurotypicals" or "NTs", and then they start identifying themselves with their disorder, like people with High-Functioning Autism are their own demographic, with very specific personality traits, products that appeal to them, and so forth.The fact is, those of us who have High-Functioning Autism (speaking specifically to those who, like me, were diagnosed by a licensed professional with actual psychiatric training) are just regular people with a slightly different neurological make-up, which leads to things like problems with very specific sensations, long-held fixations on particular topic, and, yes, difficulty learning in social situations. What this does not include is any legitimate reason to look down on your peers as your intellectual inferiors simply because you have difficulty communicating with them.Finally, I'd just like to say that I fully support the widespread use of High-Functioning Autism as the name, largely because it's harder for people to mispronounce.EDIT: Whoops, typo.

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Posted Nov 10 2011 - 01:58 AM

Ehn, I prefer Asperger's, if only because I've liked most of the arguments supporting the idea that Asperger's has enough unique-issues to it that could easily allow it to be seperate from the Autism Spectrum. I'd also prefer the seperation myself, because honestly, outside of the High-Functioning variations (of which Asperger's is just one), when non-educated people hear Autism/Autistic, they tend to think of the *insert bizarre hand-wobbling gibberish speaking, cross-eyed imitation that's far too tedious to put into words* kind of person. It's something I've experienced in the work-place, and even on a day-to-day basis. When you say Asperger's, and give a small explanation, they think "Oh, Okay." But THe very mention of Autism and people are treating you like someone with a severe Case of Down's Syndrome, or ruthlessly mocking you and pushing the buttons that Asperger's has made excessively annoying due to 'fauly wiring'.Granted, This makes me somewhat biased. I imagine it WILL be called High-Functioning Autism (What a mouthful. I might actually tolerate abbreviations in this case), and I'll be an 80 year old still identifying myself as an Asperger's.As for your points. Those annoy me too, and I'll have no part of them, but I do believe it's just a negative quirk of humanity in general, rather than something all Asperger's have. By doing this bollocks it somewhat alliviates the annoyances of day-to-day life for a somewhat discriminated against/looked-down-upon minority.In many ways you can compare Asperger's to Homosexuals. In the earlier days when Homosexuality was far more condemned than today, the 'gay culture' popped up as something of a way of combating the stress this caused. You lead your 'normal' life by day, but at night there was an entirely different world and life where they could actually be the person they really are. but today, when it's more accepted, this actually turns around to become a negative. Now-a-days when gay people are striving for equality and being seen as 'normal' the culture that was once a brilliant life-saver in their days of hardship has become a mockery and is often used to discredit and ridicule their attempts at being seen as normal people who happen to have a certain quirk.I imagine that, if there ARE more Asperger's out there like the ones seen in this topic, eventually the time will come when this 'Aspies (ugh, I hate even typing that) vs. Neurotypicals'' attitude will turn around to bite them in the bollocks, and, just like with the now out-dated and unneeded 'gay culture' will be used as a weapon to ridicule and demean them as they strive to be treated as normal people who happen to have a certain quirk.I'd also say that you remark about building-up walls, on a personal level, is a bizarre combination of true and false. On the one hand, because I spent so much of my life being my hearing-impaired mother's voice and ears, It's become very easy for me to be polite, respectable, and speak in a professional manner to other people, especially older people. If I were to live my life going to stores, working in a professional setting, etc. I'd definitely have very little trouble. But on the subject of my peers, they are very aggitating to me, And if I had to be in an atmosphere (college) where I'd have to deal with them attempting to talk to me in a casual setting, It'd drive me nuts. That's not to say I can't/won't be polite, but it'll be a hard strain on me. Thus I tend to go everywhere with earphones in, and music playing. So in that way I can definitely agree (Though, Asperger's social issues due tend to be worst around peers, so that's no shocker). I'll admit that on a somewhat generalised scale I do tend to look down on my peers in this town, but honestly, that is because in every situation where I HAVE socialised with them (in professional and semi-casual (theatrical) settings), not a single one has ever proven themselves to be anyone worthy of my time. They're simple-minded, backwards, exclusively interested in drugs, sex, and ways of combining the two (then again, what small town doesn't have that?) and little to no interest in culture and expanding their horizons. I'd like to believe that given the chance to mix with human beings who do not possess these qualities, I'd find socialising and seeing eye-to-eye with them would be easier, but until that happens, I don't know.So...I agree and disagree with you, basically XD.But I will say that I LOATHE the terms 'Aspie' and 'Neurotypicals', especially being used so casually. I'm not and never will be an 'apsie' I am a person with Asperger's. If you don't have Asperger's...good for you, but you're not getting some special name because of it.Sorry if that seems to go all over the place. I was typing it on-and-off and might have lost my place.
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Posted Nov 11 2011 - 06:58 AM

I find myself respecting you more and more, Mr. Malevolence.When I'm 18, which will be late next year, I'll try to have the Aspergers diagnose removed.Why? Because when you have a diagnosis, no matter what kind, people have... expectations.And of course that's only natural, I have expectations too, I just don't act out on them and I treat everyone in an equally kind and respectful manner, even if they don't deserve it. It only goes to show I'm better than them anyway.But I just don't like being underestimated. I know what I'm capable of, and perhaps more importantly, I know what I'm not capable of. And I know the place where I truly shine is when I interact with other people. I'm nature's pedagogue. There's no denying it. I'm the adviser, the conscience and the compass. I help people and I lead them. I'm the comedian. I love talking to people. It's an art, and I'm close to perfection. Doesn't sound very Asperger, does it?
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Posted Nov 26 2011 - 07:05 PM

I don't really like these labels anyways. We aren't mentally ill, we simply prefer knowledge to social contact. Is that so bad to you?
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Posted Nov 26 2011 - 08:38 PM

If that's what you like to call it.
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Posted Nov 27 2011 - 06:57 AM

Remove diagnosis?! How is that possible??
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Posted Nov 27 2011 - 07:32 AM

Well, next year when I turn 18 I will no longer be a part of the child and adolescent psychiatry and I'll be a normal psychiatry patient, and when you're of age, psychiatry takes you way more seriously. And then, if you want to and feel the need for one, you can ask for a reevaluation. That's what I'm going to do. It will be good to have that diagnosis removed, because when you have a diagnosis, people have expectations. And I don't intend to meet those expectations.

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Posted Nov 27 2011 - 08:10 AM

I don't really like these labels anyways. We aren't mentally ill, we simply prefer knowledge to social contact. Is that so bad to you?

No, that's not Asperger Syndrome at all. It means you've basically got weak autism without the vocalization and communication problems inherent in the more potent forms of it.I'm all for dealing with personal hardship, but it's still for a disorder.

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Posted Dec 05 2011 - 05:28 PM

I have Asperger's Syndrome. I was self-diagnosed, yes. No, you can't tell me I don't have it because I'm not 'professionally' diagnosed.Let me tell you a few stories.A list of symptoms from WebMD:1. Not pick up on social cues and may lack inborn social skills, such as being able to read others' body language, start or maintain a conversation, and take turns talking.I've always been extremely introverted. I can force myself to be an extrovert during parties, but I hate it. Plus, it's mentally straining to maintain a conversation; I don't find it relaxing. I find it annoying to have to speak to anyone.2. Dislike any changes in routines.This symptom is severely decreased in me, mostly because my family moves a lot, and changes routines quite a bit. So I have less problems with change than other Aspergers, simply because my routine changes every day.3. Appear to lack empathy.This has been a huge problem; even when I'm insanely excited about a little sibling's creation, I can't express it at all well. I'm good at listening, but I have to focus all my mental energies on keeping my facial expressions right. Which is frankly annoying.4. Be unable to recognize subtle differences in speech tone, pitch, and accent that alter the meaning of others’ speech. So your child may not understand a joke or may take a sarcastic comment literally. And his or her speech may be flat and hard to understand because it lacks tone, pitch, and accent.I've found this one actually kind of easy, mostly because I'm a huge joker myself; I can detect sarcasm and jokes without any kind of hesitation or mental effort.5. Have a formal style of speaking that is advanced for his or her age. For example, the child may use the word "beckon" instead of "call" or the word "return" instead of "come back."You should see the video of when I was six. There were these stairs in our backyard, which were filled with rocks and rimmed with wood. "I do not prefer to step on the rocks, because the hurt my feet. I prefer to step on the wood, for it can only give me splinters."I've always had a ginormous vocabulary.(And occasional problems with modesty. :P)6. Avoid eye contact or stare at others.…Yah. That problem. >.O7. Have unusual facial expressions or postures.Actually, I've adapted this into my daily life and become quite the comedian with it. Mostly, I do it intentionally. But occasionally, I'm caught staring at someone/something they're holding with laser-focused interest.8. Be preoccupied with only one or few interests, which he or she may be very knowledgeable about. Many children with Asperger's syndrome are overly interested in parts of a whole or in unusual activities, such as designing houses, drawing highly detailed scenes, or studying astronomy. They may show an unusual interest in certain topics such as snakes, names of stars, or dinosaurs.Green Anoles.Greek Myths.Bionicle.EV Nova.Fantasy.Dragons.Cats.Birds.Writing (one of my current special interests).Art.Graphic Design.Product Design.Website Design.Architecture.Typography.This list goes on for a lot longer. And I didn't just think cats were cool; I had 4-inch-thick books listing every kind of cat species, how to care for them, general things about them, and pretty much everything anyone would ever want to know about cats.9. Talk a lot, usually about a favorite subject. One-sided conversations are common. Internal thoughts are often verbalized.See above list. I've babbled, I've monologued, I've discoursed with people for hours on end.As for internal thoughts being verbalized? Me and my big mouth. All I have to say.10. Have delayed motor development. Your child may be late in learning to use a fork or spoon, ride a bike, or catch a ball. He or she may have an awkward walk. Handwriting is often poor.I'm insanely clumsy. I can trip over my own feet, or even my arm. Top that. :PAnd my handwriting, even after hundreds of curriculums, years of focused practice, I still can't write an "I" that looks like an "I," it looks like an "S."11. Have heightened sensitivity and become overstimulated by loud noises, lights, or strong tastes or textures.Oi. When I was younger, I used to spaz and throw a tantrum every time I entered a loud room; now, I'm able to control myself, but if it gets too loud… I can sit in a corner and become invisible. Exactly what I want. Ah, the joys of introverts.Anyway. Sign me up as an 'Aspie!'
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Posted Dec 05 2011 - 06:04 PM

I have Asperger's Syndrome. I was self-diagnosed, yes. No, you can't tell me I don't have it because I'm not 'professionally' diagnosed.Let me tell you a few stories.A list of symptoms from WebMD:1. Not pick up on social cues and may lack inborn social skills, such as being able to read others' body language, start or maintain a conversation, and take turns talking.I've always been extremely introverted. I can force myself to be an extrovert during parties, but I hate it. Plus, it's mentally straining to maintain a conversation; I don't find it relaxing. I find it annoying to have to speak to anyone.2. Dislike any changes in routines.This symptom is severely decreased in me, mostly because my family moves a lot, and changes routines quite a bit. So I have less problems with change than other Aspergers, simply because my routine changes every day.3. Appear to lack empathy.This has been a huge problem; even when I'm insanely excited about a little sibling's creation, I can't express it at all well. I'm good at listening, but I have to focus all my mental energies on keeping my facial expressions right. Which is frankly annoying.4. Be unable to recognize subtle differences in speech tone, pitch, and accent that alter the meaning of others’ speech. So your child may not understand a joke or may take a sarcastic comment literally. And his or her speech may be flat and hard to understand because it lacks tone, pitch, and accent.I've found this one actually kind of easy, mostly because I'm a huge joker myself; I can detect sarcasm and jokes without any kind of hesitation or mental effort.5. Have a formal style of speaking that is advanced for his or her age. For example, the child may use the word "beckon" instead of "call" or the word "return" instead of "come back."You should see the video of when I was six. There were these stairs in our backyard, which were filled with rocks and rimmed with wood. "I do not prefer to step on the rocks, because the hurt my feet. I prefer to step on the wood, for it can only give me splinters."I've always had a ginormous vocabulary.(And occasional problems with modesty. :P)6. Avoid eye contact or stare at others.…Yah. That problem. >.O7. Have unusual facial expressions or postures.Actually, I've adapted this into my daily life and become quite the comedian with it. Mostly, I do it intentionally. But occasionally, I'm caught staring at someone/something they're holding with laser-focused interest.8. Be preoccupied with only one or few interests, which he or she may be very knowledgeable about. Many children with Asperger's syndrome are overly interested in parts of a whole or in unusual activities, such as designing houses, drawing highly detailed scenes, or studying astronomy. They may show an unusual interest in certain topics such as snakes, names of stars, or dinosaurs.Green Anoles.Greek Myths.Bionicle.EV Nova.Fantasy.Dragons.Cats.Birds.Writing (one of my current special interests).Art.Graphic Design.Product Design.Website Design.Architecture.Typography.This list goes on for a lot longer. And I didn't just think cats were cool; I had 4-inch-thick books listing every kind of cat species, how to care for them, general things about them, and pretty much everything anyone would ever want to know about cats.9. Talk a lot, usually about a favorite subject. One-sided conversations are common. Internal thoughts are often verbalized.See above list. I've babbled, I've monologued, I've discoursed with people for hours on end.As for internal thoughts being verbalized? Me and my big mouth. All I have to say.10. Have delayed motor development. Your child may be late in learning to use a fork or spoon, ride a bike, or catch a ball. He or she may have an awkward walk. Handwriting is often poor.I'm insanely clumsy. I can trip over my own feet, or even my arm. Top that. :PAnd my handwriting, even after hundreds of curriculums, years of focused practice, I still can't write an "I" that looks like an "I," it looks like an "S."11. Have heightened sensitivity and become overstimulated by loud noises, lights, or strong tastes or textures.Oi. When I was younger, I used to spaz and throw a tantrum every time I entered a loud room; now, I'm able to control myself, but if it gets too loud… I can sit in a corner and become invisible. Exactly what I want. Ah, the joys of introverts.Anyway. Sign me up as an 'Aspie!'

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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 12:06 PM

I certainly lack social skills. I mistreat people when I don't mean to!
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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 12:36 PM

I have Aspergers and NVLD (Non-Verbal Learning Disorder). I WAS professionally diagnosed. In fact, at the end of this week I'm graduating from a college for students with LDs (including Aspergers). I'm not antisocial, at least not as much as I once was. But Aspergers isn't determined by how social you are, but by your social skills. Throughout grade school I struggled with the desire to have "normal" social interactions but being no good at them. I don't think Aspergers (or any LD) is something you can just grow out of. For instance, I know a number of people at my college who love reading, but are diagnosed with dyslexia. Does that mean they've grown out of dyslexia? No, they've just learned methods of coping with and compensating for their difficulties. As have I to some extent. :)
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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 01:49 PM

Most of the coping methods, if I'm not mistaken, involve using the conscious part of the brain to process things we ordinarily wouldn't be able to, like facial expressions, and to some extent sound (if I remember correctly, people with Asperger's have trouble drowning out non-human noises, which is supposedly natural in most people, and this is why). It's very interesting. Just imagine how much more intelligent we'd all be if we disposed of this 'social processing', not that that would be in any way a good idea.Personally the thing that I have the most trouble with day-to-day is small talk. It almost always descends into awkward silence after a few minutes.

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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 03:19 PM

Does anyone else feel like they can only debate? Casual conversation, no, but if I find someone with an opposing viewpoint, bring it on. Which is kind of bad for me, seeing as some people don't care if someone else is right, they just want to live their lives. :/…The only person I've ever been able to really talk to is my older brother. He's amazing. http://www.bzpower.c...tyle_emoticons/default/cool.png
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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 03:32 PM

@Writ Honestly, I think you've misunderstood a few things about your behavior and how they compare to the diagnosis. I could go in an in-depth look at this, but they really are huge areas to discuss. Areas like "awkward social behavior" and general dislike of conversations and empathetic abilities. Plus, the areas you find yourself scoring in the Aspergers criteria are the more irrelevant ones. The most critical points of the diagnosis are the social issues and the routines. I just think you're a more unusual kind of person. No Aspergers for you, I'm afraid.
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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 04:20 PM

@Writ Honestly, I think you've misunderstood a few things about your behavior and how they compare to the diagnosis. I could go in an in-depth look at this, but they really are huge areas to discuss. Areas like "awkward social behavior" and general dislike of conversations and empathetic abilities. Plus, the areas you find yourself scoring in the Aspergers criteria are the more irrelevant ones. The most critical points of the diagnosis are the social issues and the routines. I just think you're a more unusual kind of person. No Aspergers for you, I'm afraid.

Unfortunately, I must disagree. You have no right, or qualification, to diagnose anything about me; firstly, because you've only seen a few of my posts, and secondly, Aspergers' is nigh on impossible to detect in an online community. From the Complete Guide to Aspergers' Syndrome, by Tony Attwood:Page 162:"For adolescents, Internet chat lines can be a successful social activity that can be an emotional repair mechanism. People with Aspergers' Syndrome may have greater eloquence and insight in disclosing their thoughts and feelings by typing rather than talking."Basically, the internet is a disguise for those with Aspergers.Also, you don't know me personally, and even if you did, you'd need at least base knowledge of psychiatric analysis to discover Aspergers.I know myself. I've gone through misfortune and hardship, and that's what helps you know someone: how they act under pressure. I know how I act, and I know I have Aspergers.You don't have any qualification to say 'no Aspergers for you.' I have that qualification.Writ

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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 06:26 PM

I would say I'm more than qualified, really. I'm not a psychiatrist, but I have a lot of knowledge. Especially about people with Aspergers. I have experience and theoretical competence. All I need is a degree. ;)
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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 06:41 PM

More than qualified? After looking at two of my posts, maybe just one, you can say that I don't have Aspergers, when I've been me all my life and experienced it? Even my mom, who's been an outside observer, and my dad, can both say that I have Aspergers.Think of it this way: I don't have to go to a doctor to know I have a cold. Runny, clogged nostrils, lethargy, chills and a thermometer will tell me. Aspergers is just as blatant, believe it or not. People who talk to me still compliment my vocabulary; that's not just side effects of homeschooling. That's Aspergers. Even my parents notice me saying words, and they've been listening to me say 'prefer' instead of 'like' since I was 4 and a half.Another thing: Children with Aspergers start talking either extremely early or extremely late. I started talking at 12 months. And I don't mean "mama" or "dada." I mean "I want pie," or "I don't like that pop-tart."
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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 07:14 PM

I don't know how to reply to that comment. I can say I'm competent and you can say "You don't know or understand me!", but in all reality, I do believe I have the upper hand. But again, that is just my opinion. I just know my opinion has a tradition of being very correct. Especially about these issues. And I mean especially.
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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 07:57 PM

I can't argue with you on this, because you seem intent on ignoring my perfectly valid points and insisting you're better than I am.

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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 08:17 PM

I have to say I agree with Writ on this one. Honestly "The Change" (do you have something a bit more... namey that I can call you?), you're applying a bit of a double standard. You're refuting his unprofessional self-diagnosis of Aspergers with your own unprofessional (since you don't have a degree yet), impersonal diagnosis that he does not have Aspergers. And I'm afraid to say that I'm more willing to trust Writ, as he would better understand his own strengths and weaknesses than you might. Moreover, you're coming across as rude and presumptuous with your more-knowledgeable-than-thou attitude. And in fact, I'm left wondering how accurate your own self-diagnosis of NOT having Aspergers is: your impersonal, uncaring criticisms of others and general attitude of self-importance don't exactly scream "great social skills".I understand that my opinion is no more educated than yours. But your education on Aspergers Syndrome is probably no more than mine; I'm 20 and have taken a college-level course on Learning Disabilities.But Writ, I do say that if you suspect yourself to have Aspergers syndrome, it would be useful to get a professional diagnosis. That both lends you credibility when critics like Change try to refute your observations, and, if your Aspergers is a hindrance in everyday life, can let you get legally-guaranteed accommodations at your school or place of work.

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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 08:27 PM

I have to say I agree with Writ on this one. Honestly "The Change" (do you have something a bit more... namey that I can call you?), you're applying a bit of a double standard. You're refuting his unprofessional self-diagnosis of Aspergers with your own unprofessional (since you don't have a degree yet), impersonal diagnosis that he does not have Aspergers. And I'm afraid to say that I'm more willing to trust Writ, as he would better understand his own strengths and weaknesses than you might. Moreover, you're coming across as rude and presumptuous with your more-knowledgeable-than-thou attitude. And in fact, I'm left wondering how accurate your own self-diagnosis of NOT having Aspergers is: your impersonal, uncaring criticisms of others don't exactly scream "great social skills".But Writ, I do say that if you suspect yourself to have Aspergers syndrome, it would be useful to get a professional diagnosis. That both lends you credibility when critics like Change try to refute your observations, but, if your Aspergers is a hindrance in everyday life, can let you get legally-guaranteed accommodations at your school or place of work.

Thank you.However, I don't want or need a professional diagnosis; firstly, it's either expensive or inconvenient, and secondly, I don't need it. I can survive without special treatment; and I don't much care for government protection.I'm a Libertarian, and the less the government tries to help me, the happier I'll be.

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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 08:54 PM

I could try to be more helpful here, and tune up my "cheerful" attitude I, frankly, shine 24/7 in real life but I feel being direct and honest works better here. And I too despise that "I'm older/more experienced than you, therefore I'm automatically correct" manner of talking, but right now, it just happens to be the case. I actually don't like coming off as stubborn, too serious and not open to other people's views, but... I just see far too many cases of this self-suspicion, and almost as often, people don't have sufficient reason to suspect that they have this diagnosis. My argument is not "Because people tend to often be wrong about this, this is also the case", my argument is that looking at the evidence you've presented to us, and since you strike me as self-aware and intelligent, I think the evidence presented is honest. And because of it's honesty. and thus more unbiased, it's easier to judge it. The only thing that's a little bit off here is the conclusion. I know plenty of people like you who actually don't have Aspergers, but have been evaluated. In the end, they had various degrees of social anxiety. Another one is among the smartest people on this planet, not even kidding. I think you're just a gem. An investment. A future. How inspiring.
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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 08:58 PM

Yes, I also agree with Writ. He, like me, seems to just be more of a high-functioning Aspie. Plus, he's right about the Internet point. Most Aspies act more openly in the safety of the Web. And, lastly, none of us actually know Writ personally, so none of us are more qualified than him to diagnose him unprofessionally. I am glad to welcome Writ as an Aspie of BZPower.On another point, would anybody think it cool if I put an BZPower Aspie List on the front page? The BZP bronies do it; I just think it'd be cool to have.
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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 09:09 PM

Let this be said though! I don't think it's entirely impossible that Writ has Aspergers, I just see it far more likely that he is just... different.
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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 09:15 PM

Let this be said though! I don't think it's entirely impossible that Writ has Aspergers, I just see it far more likely that he is just... different.

We need to respect your opinion, too. I'm okay with you guys expressing your opinion, and we should want to hear our fellow Aspies. I just don't want to see anymore of that near-flaming.

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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 09:32 PM

Let this be said though! I don't think it's entirely impossible that Writ has Aspergers, I just see it far more likely that he is just... different.

I respect your opinion, but I hold to mine. ;)

On another point, would anybody think it cool if I put an BZPower Aspie List on the front page? The BZP bronies do it; I just think it'd be cool to have.

Sure! A list would be nice. Lists are easy. :P

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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 09:40 PM

Excuse me, but near... I'm so sorry... near-flaming? That's ridiculous. Just because you find this discussion confronting or perhaps EVULLL does not mean it is flaming. Not even NEAR-flaming. I have to put on this condescending attitude because it just sounds so silly. Example of flaming: UR just a Mean old #####!11!1! i wiLl tell mY mommMy! :((( >:( Example of this discussion (read this with a British accent): I find it difficult to believe your claims that profess your belief that you're a patient suffering from Aspergers syndrome, commonly referred to high-functioning Autism. There's a difference! XD
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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 09:45 PM

Yes, you have a point, but there's a fine line between being cooly logical and presumptuous, and the line gets blurred and hard to find when online. So, I agree, you're being logical and direct, but that does sometimes come off as slightly rude. And it didn't really come off as rude to me, but I'm also trying to remain cool and logical, so that may just be me.Try inserting
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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 09:48 PM

I think that what was going on before was near-flaming. What is happening now is discussion.
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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 09:53 PM

Ratio of Smileys per post in near-flame section:1:2 posts.Ratio of Smileys post-flame:2:1 posts.
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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 10:08 PM

Exactly. Smilies make the world better. :) Btw, check the BZP Aspie List on the front page. 23 Aspies! Yay!
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Posted Dec 13 2011 - 10:12 PM

Smileys make the world go round.…And I totally cannot think up rhythmic, rhyming lyrics that go to the tune of 'Makes the World Go Round' from Sword in the Stone for the life of me. :P
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Posted Dec 14 2011 - 05:08 PM

[quote name='"Master Inika"]On another point' date=' would anybody think it cool if I put an BZPower Aspie List on the front page? The BZP bronies do it; I just think it'd be cool to have.[/QUOTE']Bronies are people with a common interest. Aspies are people with a common mental peculiarity. Not sure the common mental peculiarity is worth making a list about - it will either do nothing, or alienate us, in my opinion.

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