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Did Slizer Foreshadow the Core War and the Shattering?

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#1 Offline Master Inika

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Posted Aug 22 2014 - 09:46 PM

Awhile ago, I posted a headcanon on the usage of "Slizer" and "Throwbot" in-universe. Well, I'm back dissect BIONICLE's obscure forerunner once again. For the uninitiated:


The line had two different storylines. In Europe and Australia, the story was about a planet with seven continents and a "Slizer Dome" on the north pole. In this version, the different factions were all at war. In North America, the story was of seven different planets whose inhabitants met on the eighth, the Judge Dome, to settle disputes. Now, "settle disputes" is quite vague, but it implies something more civilized than all-out war. Both stories ended with a meteor striking the planet (or presumably the Judge Dome in the North American storyline) and causing mass destruction, leading to the poorly-defined 2000 storyline.


This next part is, admittedly, more headcanon from myself. It seems reasonable that the meteor strike happened at the end of the European storyline, and the meteor fragmented the planet into the many planets in the North American storyline. So, it's as follows:


1. Single planet with many sides fighting a war.

2. Cataclysm happens, resulting in multiple planets.

3. Former soldiers use a more tempered system of combat now.


Does anybody else see the ties to the story of the Core War and the Shattering? I believe Greg confirmed that, at the beginning, the only thing planned was the Great Beings building Mata Nui as a universe-housing robot, and the parts about the Glatorian and Bara Magna were added when it was decided to "refresh" the BIONICLE story. Think anyone working at LEGO took inspiration from BIONICLE's ill-fated predecessor?

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Posted Aug 22 2014 - 09:50 PM

It's possible.


I would think that the idea for the Core War and Spherus Magna's Shattering came about relatively early on. They had to have a reason for the giant robot, right? (You could argue that they didn't need to have a reason, but I would like to believe that at least some planning went into the backstory for that other than "they were all in the robot the entire time"). Perhaps with Throwbots/Slizers, the one story concept that they really really liked was the shattering planet and the combat thing, and when that line ended they decided to adapt the specific concept for Bionicle - so they decided that the robot existed to reform the planet, then the Glatorian arena-battle aspect came later?... maybe that's a bit of a stretch, I don't know.


But please, just refer to my first sentence if all of this is being worded poorly.

Edited by ChroXumo, Aug 22 2014 - 09:52 PM.

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#3 Offline Jakura Nuva

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Posted Aug 22 2014 - 09:53 PM

First of all, wow; I've never thought about like that.


Secondly, while I see the similarities, I can't say for sure that Lego did that on purpose. This idea isn't isolated here in Lego - a very similar story was developed for Hasbro's Transformers toyline. It's a very common idea, I think; so, I would assume that even if Throwbots didn't use that plot, Bionicle would have anyway.


But that's just my opinion :P

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Posted Aug 22 2014 - 10:21 PM

There really are similarities. It doesn't seem altogether unlikely (at least to me, though I am exceptionally unlearned in the slizers storyline) that it could have been the inspiration for the Glatorian stuff, but as Chro said, it would be weird if they didn't have some vague idea of why the Mata Nui robot would be necessary. I suddenly feel the urge to write a crossover story...


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Posted Aug 22 2014 - 11:36 PM

That sounds like a reuse of a plot device which is not foreshadowing, especially considering Bionicle was probably either nonexistent or in early development at that time, probably with little story.  


And Lego seems to do this a lot in stories. Bionicle wasn't foreshadowing HF or Ninjago in any way, but they do share elements.

Edited by ~Shockwave~, Aug 22 2014 - 11:36 PM.

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Posted Aug 23 2014 - 11:29 AM

I think you're taking this a bit far. The meteor strike in the European storyline did not split the planet into multiple planets — rather, it literally blew up half the planet while leaving the other half perfectly intact. The new Slizers emerged from the crater to do battle with the older ones, and it's implied that the three other than Millenium Slizer (who arrived on the meteor) might be "mutated" versions of the Slizers from the half of the planet that was destroyed in the impact. Spark Slizer shares Energy Slizer's color scheme, and Blaster Slizer's faceplate is literally half of Jungle Slizer's and half of Judge Slizer's.

There is definitely some similarity between the American Throwbots storyline and the Glatorian arena system, but that's not foreshadowing, it's coincidence.

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#7 Offline Nidhiki of the Shadows

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Posted Sep 18 2014 - 03:35 AM

Slizer vs Bionicle confirmed



Edited by Nidhiki of the Shadows, Sep 18 2014 - 03:35 AM.

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