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Weren't there also instructions made for the Mask Maker Makuta?
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I built some partly Moc'd media models! (Dead Ta-Matoran and VNOG Fikou)-
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With the official LEGO forums very near death, I attempted to put all 924 pages of the Ask Greg topic on the wayback machine.
So things like Biosector01 can still have this proof of Greg information if they need it!
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It would be cool if you could add the instructions of all of the fan-made canonized sets into the database too, like the Catapult Scorpion and the Tahtorak - if they are available.
Some have like the Aqua Blaster Blade, others have replica instructions like the Tahtorak (not 100% accurate in that case). Anyone submitting their own attempted instructions is welcome to.
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I mean I was expecting it to get locked because of the reply but I'd be cool with it staying unlocked, not that I'm a mod for this forums or anything. It'd totally be nice to keep adding to this database.
I've always been interested about what that Matoran Nui in the books was supposed to be like (the that the 2004 metruan matoran combined into)
I don't think there was an official image of it released to fit this database.
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ALRIGHT LET'S GET THIS TOPIC LOCKED WITH A YEAR+ LATER POST
So I've added in more G1 contest models, even pictured runners up, unused winners and the canonised prisoners of the pit models. I've also added in more media models and notable prototypes even if "non-pieces" are used like impossible construction or parts that don't exist IRL.
Here's hoping we can continue to catalog every known Bionicle creation applicable for this document!
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So THAT'S where those models came from! I'd seen them before, both when you mentioned them before and in a couple compilation Brickshelf galleries, but I never imagined that Lego had previously hosted them on Bionicle.com. I think I'll try to build a couple of them when I have access to my sets. Great research, and great find!
It's things like this that make me sad that most of BZP's forum archives have been lost to the ages (and MoD's, too, I think). We're rediscovering these little pieces of history that probably weren't that obscure back in the day, but pretty much everyone left in the Bionicle fandom has forgotten these details, and the records of those older days just aren't there anymore.
What's next? I'm thinking that the next new tidbit will come if anyone ever purchases and opens one of the 2003 Kabaya Matoran, and we can get a good scan of its instructions. And I'm holding out hope that somewhere, a digital copy of the Vezok-Thok-Reidak Korean Piraka combiner instructions exists. (Where did the Hakann-Avak-Zaktan version's instructions come from, anyway?) And who knows? There might be other hidden secrets to stumble upon.
Edit: Hey, I have my Vahi now!
Yeah, we should really see if we can just contact the guy who had the Korean Piraka (Thok, Vezok, Reidak) set and see if he can upload the instructions. Any problems foreseeable with doing that?
Language barrier could be an issue, unless somebody here knows Korean (which I assume is what that page is written in). I can't quite tell if the site is just one guy's blog, or more of a community, but the site still seems semi-active (judging by the Skull Creature banner), which is at least a little promising. It's worth a shot.
Google Translate won't suffice? Because that'd be understandable.
I don't know, a message with words like "Bionicle", "Piraka", and "combiner" would probably get butchered pretty badly by Google Translate.
Well they look okay here:
https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/BIONICLE%0APiraka%0ACombiner
I think if we included the message in both English and translated Japanese/Korean, with a lot of pictures to try to illustrate the point, that would probably have the best chance of success. You want to give it a try?
I would. How easy is it to make an account? Do you need a phone number or something?
An account for what? The site where the instructions photo was posted?
Yes.
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So THAT'S where those models came from! I'd seen them before, both when you mentioned them before and in a couple compilation Brickshelf galleries, but I never imagined that Lego had previously hosted them on Bionicle.com. I think I'll try to build a couple of them when I have access to my sets. Great research, and great find!
It's things like this that make me sad that most of BZP's forum archives have been lost to the ages (and MoD's, too, I think). We're rediscovering these little pieces of history that probably weren't that obscure back in the day, but pretty much everyone left in the Bionicle fandom has forgotten these details, and the records of those older days just aren't there anymore.
What's next? I'm thinking that the next new tidbit will come if anyone ever purchases and opens one of the 2003 Kabaya Matoran, and we can get a good scan of its instructions. And I'm holding out hope that somewhere, a digital copy of the Vezok-Thok-Reidak Korean Piraka combiner instructions exists. (Where did the Hakann-Avak-Zaktan version's instructions come from, anyway?) And who knows? There might be other hidden secrets to stumble upon.
Edit: Hey, I have my Vahi now!
Yeah, we should really see if we can just contact the guy who had the Korean Piraka (Thok, Vezok, Reidak) set and see if he can upload the instructions. Any problems foreseeable with doing that?
Language barrier could be an issue, unless somebody here knows Korean (which I assume is what that page is written in). I can't quite tell if the site is just one guy's blog, or more of a community, but the site still seems semi-active (judging by the Skull Creature banner), which is at least a little promising. It's worth a shot.
Google Translate won't suffice? Because that'd be understandable.
I don't know, a message with words like "Bionicle", "Piraka", and "combiner" would probably get butchered pretty badly by Google Translate.
Well they look okay here:
https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/BIONICLE%0APiraka%0ACombiner
I think if we included the message in both English and translated Japanese/Korean, with a lot of pictures to try to illustrate the point, that would probably have the best chance of success. You want to give it a try?
I would. How easy is it to make an account? Do you need a phone number or something?
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So THAT'S where those models came from! I'd seen them before, both when you mentioned them before and in a couple compilation Brickshelf galleries, but I never imagined that Lego had previously hosted them on Bionicle.com. I think I'll try to build a couple of them when I have access to my sets. Great research, and great find!
It's things like this that make me sad that most of BZP's forum archives have been lost to the ages (and MoD's, too, I think). We're rediscovering these little pieces of history that probably weren't that obscure back in the day, but pretty much everyone left in the Bionicle fandom has forgotten these details, and the records of those older days just aren't there anymore.
What's next? I'm thinking that the next new tidbit will come if anyone ever purchases and opens one of the 2003 Kabaya Matoran, and we can get a good scan of its instructions. And I'm holding out hope that somewhere, a digital copy of the Vezok-Thok-Reidak Korean Piraka combiner instructions exists. (Where did the Hakann-Avak-Zaktan version's instructions come from, anyway?) And who knows? There might be other hidden secrets to stumble upon.
Edit: Hey, I have my Vahi now!
Yeah, we should really see if we can just contact the guy who had the Korean Piraka (Thok, Vezok, Reidak) set and see if he can upload the instructions. Any problems foreseeable with doing that?
Language barrier could be an issue, unless somebody here knows Korean (which I assume is what that page is written in). I can't quite tell if the site is just one guy's blog, or more of a community, but the site still seems semi-active (judging by the Skull Creature banner), which is at least a little promising. It's worth a shot.
Google Translate won't suffice? Because that'd be understandable.
I don't know, a message with words like "Bionicle", "Piraka", and "combiner" would probably get butchered pretty badly by Google Translate.
Well they look okay here:
https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/BIONICLE%0APiraka%0ACombiner
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So THAT'S where those models came from! I'd seen them before, both when you mentioned them before and in a couple compilation Brickshelf galleries, but I never imagined that Lego had previously hosted them on Bionicle.com. I think I'll try to build a couple of them when I have access to my sets. Great research, and great find!
It's things like this that make me sad that most of BZP's forum archives have been lost to the ages (and MoD's, too, I think). We're rediscovering these little pieces of history that probably weren't that obscure back in the day, but pretty much everyone left in the Bionicle fandom has forgotten these details, and the records of those older days just aren't there anymore.
What's next? I'm thinking that the next new tidbit will come if anyone ever purchases and opens one of the 2003 Kabaya Matoran, and we can get a good scan of its instructions. And I'm holding out hope that somewhere, a digital copy of the Vezok-Thok-Reidak Korean Piraka combiner instructions exists. (Where did the Hakann-Avak-Zaktan version's instructions come from, anyway?) And who knows? There might be other hidden secrets to stumble upon.
Edit: Hey, I have my Vahi now!
Yeah, we should really see if we can just contact the guy who had the Korean Piraka (Thok, Vezok, Reidak) set and see if he can upload the instructions. Any problems foreseeable with doing that?
Language barrier could be an issue, unless somebody here knows Korean (which I assume is what that page is written in). I can't quite tell if the site is just one guy's blog, or more of a community, but the site still seems semi-active (judging by the Skull Creature banner), which is at least a little promising. It's worth a shot.
Google Translate won't suffice? Because that'd be understandable.
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So THAT'S where those models came from! I'd seen them before, both when you mentioned them before and in a couple compilation Brickshelf galleries, but I never imagined that Lego had previously hosted them on Bionicle.com. I think I'll try to build a couple of them when I have access to my sets. Great research, and great find!
It's things like this that make me sad that most of BZP's forum archives have been lost to the ages (and MoD's, too, I think). We're rediscovering these little pieces of history that probably weren't that obscure back in the day, but pretty much everyone left in the Bionicle fandom has forgotten these details, and the records of those older days just aren't there anymore.
What's next? I'm thinking that the next new tidbit will come if anyone ever purchases and opens one of the 2003 Kabaya Matoran, and we can get a good scan of its instructions. And I'm holding out hope that somewhere, a digital copy of the Vezok-Thok-Reidak Korean Piraka combiner instructions exists. (Where did the Hakann-Avak-Zaktan version's instructions come from, anyway?) And who knows? There might be other hidden secrets to stumble upon.
Edit: Hey, I have my Vahi now!
Yeah, we should really see if we can just contact the guy who had the Korean Piraka (Thok, Vezok, Reidak) set and see if he can upload the instructions. Any problems foreseeable with doing that?
Do we even know who that guy is?
http://cafe.naver.com/legobionicle/97069
There is a photo of part of the instructions, but they're slightly obscured.
Yes... That's why we'd ask him.
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So THAT'S where those models came from! I'd seen them before, both when you mentioned them before and in a couple compilation Brickshelf galleries, but I never imagined that Lego had previously hosted them on Bionicle.com. I think I'll try to build a couple of them when I have access to my sets. Great research, and great find!
It's things like this that make me sad that most of BZP's forum archives have been lost to the ages (and MoD's, too, I think). We're rediscovering these little pieces of history that probably weren't that obscure back in the day, but pretty much everyone left in the Bionicle fandom has forgotten these details, and the records of those older days just aren't there anymore.
What's next? I'm thinking that the next new tidbit will come if anyone ever purchases and opens one of the 2003 Kabaya Matoran, and we can get a good scan of its instructions. And I'm holding out hope that somewhere, a digital copy of the Vezok-Thok-Reidak Korean Piraka combiner instructions exists. (Where did the Hakann-Avak-Zaktan version's instructions come from, anyway?) And who knows? There might be other hidden secrets to stumble upon.
Edit: Hey, I have my Vahi now!
Yeah, we should really see if we can just contact the guy who had the Korean Piraka (Thok, Vezok, Reidak) set and see if he can upload the instructions. Any problems foreseeable with doing that?
Do we even know who that guy is?
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Wow, I got Karzhani a month back in an eBay lot with lots of other sets for like $20, however, it was only missing the just-as-expensive cape part! Regardless, it's quite a surprise that this is expensive and rare..
Didn't that cape also come with the Vezon sets?
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So THAT'S where those models came from! I'd seen them before, both when you mentioned them before and in a couple compilation Brickshelf galleries, but I never imagined that Lego had previously hosted them on Bionicle.com. I think I'll try to build a couple of them when I have access to my sets. Great research, and great find!
It's things like this that make me sad that most of BZP's forum archives have been lost to the ages (and MoD's, too, I think). We're rediscovering these little pieces of history that probably weren't that obscure back in the day, but pretty much everyone left in the Bionicle fandom has forgotten these details, and the records of those older days just aren't there anymore.
What's next? I'm thinking that the next new tidbit will come if anyone ever purchases and opens one of the 2003 Kabaya Matoran, and we can get a good scan of its instructions. And I'm holding out hope that somewhere, a digital copy of the Vezok-Thok-Reidak Korean Piraka combiner instructions exists. (Where did the Hakann-Avak-Zaktan version's instructions come from, anyway?) And who knows? There might be other hidden secrets to stumble upon.
Edit: Hey, I have my Vahi now!
Yeah, we should really see if we can just contact the guy who had the Korean Piraka (Thok, Vezok, Reidak) set and see if he can upload the instructions. Any problems foreseeable with doing that?
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...To be ones already known of. Don't know what I'm talking about?
One of the many wacky foreign and non-canon combiners G1 had was this often liked diddy that mixes together the blue, red and black Rahkshi into one staff wielding warrior.
What you may not know is that there were apparently other models that came from the same Brickshelf gallery it came from that were not used in the (Western, at least) LEGO magazine it appeared in. These are more... out there, to say the least.
And when asked if they should also be include in the alternate model database back in October, Volitak_Boxor said no because they weren't, to out knowledge, LEGO-sanctioned like the Japanese model was. Until now...
While browsing on Google, I came across this old BZPower news archive page that shows the picture of one of the combiners and lists it as being one of four "Inspired by BIONICLE" creations available on BIONICLE.com's Builder's Section without instructions but rather a single image, and also that they weren't seen on the LEGO Club website. So I went through the Wayback Machine for the Builder's Section page around this date and did indeed find four "Inspiration Models" without images saved. And clicking for a close-up gave more information.
"Inspirational Model #1" uses Turahk, Vorahk & Guurahk so it matches the magazine-published combiner and states "Tip: Use the Rahkshi shoulder parts to create the body of this imposing character.".
"Inspirational Model #2" uses Panrahk, Kurahk & Lerahk so it matches the BZPower listed image's combiner and states "Tip: Use Rahkshi back parts to create the long arms. Remember that good balance is the most important part of this model!".
"Inspirational Model #3" uses Onua Nuva, Pahrak-Kal, Pohatu Nuva & Nuhvok-Kal so it must be the duo combiner and states "Tip: Using Onua Nuva and Pahrak-Kal, you can create the silver version of this Ape-like creature. By combining Pohatu Nuva and Nuhvok-Kal, you can also create his golden-faced twin!".
And "Inspirational Model #4" uses Tahu Nuva and Kohrak-Kal so it must be the remaining combiner and states "Tip: Combine the various limbs of both Tahu Nuva and Kohrak-Kal to create extra-long legs!".
So in terms of obscure and goofy, but LEGO-sanctioned combiners, we can also now add these guys to the continually growing list!
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So I came across this old BZPower news archive page that shows the picture of one of the other "Manga Inspired" combiners and lists it as being one of the four "Inspired by BIONICLE" creations available on BIONICLE.com's Builder's Section without instructions but rather a single image, and also that they weren't seen on the LEGO Club website. So I went through the Wayback Machine for the Builder's Section page around this date and did indeed find four "Inspiration Models" without images saved. And clicking for a close-up gave more information.
"Inspirational Model #1" uses Turahk, Vorahk & Guurahk so it matches the magazine-published combiner and states "Tip: Use the Rahkshi shoulder parts to create the body of this imposing character.".
"Inspirational Model #2" uses Panrahk, Kurahk & Lerahk so it matches the BZPower listed image's combiner and states "Tip: Use Rahkshi back parts to create the long arms. Remember that good balance is the most important part of this model!".
"Inspirational Model #3" uses Onua Nuva, Pahrak-Kal, Pohatu Nuva & Nuhvok-Kal so it must be the duo combiner and states "Tip: Using Onua Nuva and Pahrak-Kal, you can create the silver version of this Ape-like creature. By combining Pohatu Nuva and Nuhvok-Kal, you can also create his golden-faced twin!".
And "Inspirational Model #4" uses Tahu Nuva and Kohrak-Kal so it must be the remaining combiner and states "Tip: Combine the various limbs of both Tahu Nuva and Kohrak-Kal to create extra-long legs!".
So yeah, I believe we can now count these as being LEGO-sanctioned and thus, include them in the document. Interesting, isn't it? We're still unearthing simultaneously obscure and ridiculous combiners, and in this case three/four.
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Thanks for posting that Lego Magazine scan. I'd forgotten about that picture. Just to clarify, is this the piece you are referring to as the "Y joint?"
Indeed.
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I talked a bit with Munty and in addition, we think the "tongue" y-joint/Bohrok eye pieces in the Tahtorak's head are actually trans-neon orange. In addition, we also think the y-joints in the head are dark blue grey, but it's anyone's guess over whether the light grey or light bley colour was used.
For reference, these are all the non-comic official Tahtorak images that I know of.
Apologies if these images are too big.
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Does anyone know if the Tahtorak's head y-joints are supposed to be dark grey and or dark blue grey?
In this picture it looks like the latter:
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You're welcome. They are in the head of the Tahtorak, as seen in the Justin Lamb red carpet image. I can't pinpoint them exactly myself, but it looks like they might be right under the light grey "grip" pieces in the head.
Wow, yet another unearthed combiner! Unfortunately, I can kind of see why it is so forgotten! Though to be fair, I do like the "face" they've made with the pieces. And while perhaps not well constructed, it has a kind of crazy look that actually reminds me somewhat of Boneheads. I'd take this over, or at the very least find it way more memorable, than the other two '03 Matoran combiners.
You mean VooDoo Heads.
Oh. Whoops! Excuse me.
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Some guy with an insane but awesome collection has recreated some of the alternate playset models over on his blog:
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You're welcome. They are in the head of the Tahtorak, as seen in the Justin Lamb red carpet image. I can't pinpoint them exactly myself, but it looks like they might be right under the light grey "grip" pieces in the head.
Wow, yet another unearthed combiner! Unfortunately, I can kind of see why it is so forgotten! Though to be fair, I do like the "face" they've made with the pieces. And while perhaps not well constructed, it has a kind of crazy look that actually reminds me somewhat of Boneheads. I'd take this over, or at the very least find it way more memorable, than the other two '03 Matoran combiners.
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So here is the nearly accurate Tahtorak build.
Munty gave me these four pictures for the accurate head construction:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/TomRoid/2014/2015/yimg-416788381-1-1476557127.jpg
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/TomRoid/2014/2015/yimg-497556933-1-2125552457.jpg
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/TomRoid/2014/2015/yimg-627440686-1--1821829408.jpg
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/TomRoid/2014/2015/yimg-849747595-1--1179183041.jpg
Unfortunately, there are still two unknown grey parts seen that are not accounted for, as seen in this official Justin Lamb model pic:
But besides that, Munty is confident that he got everything else right.
EDIT: Can anyone tell me the difference between the instructions before and after the images of the model in this gallery? http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=407397&n=0Edit 2: Large images linked. Please embed images only if they're below 750 kB!
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Hey, what I suppose is relevant is that Munty gave me instructions for the more accurate head build of the Tahtorak model besides two grey parts he couldn't figure out, so I could post more about that soon.
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Going to LEGO's replacement part form and typing in the Korean Piraka set number yields "no results." Are we sure it's not a bootleg or something?
Shows you what simply looking around on the set's sources on Brickipedia will do...
Yes, Piraka Kaita's legitimacy officially confirmed at last, as we see images of it in real life.
Well, yeah.
Also consider they're more "set packs" than usual sets with usual set numbers, so that might be why they're not there.
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Didn't the Sand Tarakava replica guy make instructions?