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Greg is officially as insane as Vezon... Every visual depiction shows them as moons. Every line of dialogue AND NARRATION refers to them as moons. Basic physics (although Greg doesn't care bout this one) demands that they be moons. Greg's explanation about us only seeing one side of each fragment (while not making much sense) only works if they are moons. This is as big a retcon as him saying "Mata Nui never left the planet" It just makes no sense.

Because he WASN'T awoken in 2003. In the second epilogue to Time Trap (which takes place after Takanuva defeats the Makuta) the narrator says:

In Journey's End, Greg explained (not very well) that the planet could be reformed for 100,000 years, and that they launched the robot early so that it could collect data on other cultures as a secondary goal. What bothers me is that the Makuta (especially Teridax) were created with great ambition so that they would take over that Matoran Universe and ally with Mata Nui (now in a second body) to fix the planet. It was this ambition that caused him to NOT want to help Mata Nui repair Spherus Magna in the first place. Why not just tell them their purpose? Now, their IS an explanation for this: the Makuta essence that possessed Brutaka implied that they did know, but merely forgot. This could be attributed to Velika, saying that he "removed" this knowledge when he made everyone sapient. But if all you needed was someone to control the robot when Mata Nui leaves, why not just reuse Tren Krom?

See, this is why I told you not to ask Greg!! > > > To be fair, Greg did proceed to say he knew next to nothing about the MLN campaign, so we can and should take his word with a grain of salt. (But if we're going to be all "word of God" about this, I will admit that in Raid on Vulcanus, Gresh describes the Hero Agori with male pronouns. But again, I must implore readers to consider that Greg doesn't know what he's talking about.) ... But if we're going to be all "word of God" about this, I will admit that in Raid on Vulcanus, Gresh describes the Hero Agori with male pronouns. Well, that's that. Straight from Raid on Vulcanus, the Hero Agori is indisputably male. Why does everyone have a problem with a male character who is compassionate and humble? I know we need more female characters, but I like this one as a male. We don't get many male characters who talk their way through problems in an action story. Bionicle in particular seems to have many male characters attack potential allies (Tahu, Kopaka and Takanuva come to mind) or make otherwise arrogant decisions. I feel like I am the only one NOT upset by this.

Well humans posses the biological ability to digest other humans... It's really the same idea, one sapient creature eating another.

But he wasn't destined. The great beings created Takua with the potential to become a toa in every universe, but only in some of them was he destined to transform. In the rest, his toa potential was unused. As far as I am aware, in the Dark Mirror, Kojol never attacked Artakha, so the Avohkii was never removed. Takua was not needed as a Toa of Light, so destiny ensured that he only came in contact with an Avohkii that was already drained of its toa power, and didn't transform. Quote right. Greg confirmed that destinies change in different universes, sonI assume "destiny" would be a subtle programming to ensure that every Matoran gets to do what is most beneficial to his or her universe. Greg also said that the Great Beings did NOT create destiny and that they themselves are subject to it. Remember, Energized Protodermis (which relies on destiny) functions on Spherus Manga, which was not created by the Great Beings.

But he wasn't destined. The great beings created Takua with the potential to become a toa in every universe, but only in some of them was he destined to transform. In the rest, his toa potential was unused. As far as I am aware, in the Dark Mirror, Kojol never attacked Artakha, so the Avohkii was never removed. Takua was not needed as a Toa of Light, so destiny ensured that he only came in contact with an Avohkii that was already drained of its toa power, and didn't transform.

I was referring to to the possible Nui Stone powered Toa Velika.

It seems unlikely this is that kind of destiny, since as HTW said, those destined have some Toa Energy already inside them. Destiny about how, when, and maybe even why they become Toa could change, but it still seems like they would always be destined to be Toa, unless the timeline diverged at some point prior to their creation and for whatever reason they didn't get some Toa Energy. But hey... maybe there are tons of Matoran out there who actually have Toa Power inside them, but they don't actually need to be Toa at the moment ? Maybe there are even Matoran who had toa power inside them but were killed or something. And now that everyone's gone to SM, is there still a reason for them to become Toa ? With Marendar running around, I think we need them more than ever. And Velika is trying to kill Tuyet... who has the Nui Stone... and his Po-Matoran body has the potential to become a toa... Agori, be very afraid.

Which contradicts earlier quotes... Is it a retcon, or simple forgetfulness?

2) Less thorough. Once you have been killed by a Makuta, it is not an experience you want to repeat, so you tend to be more circumspect I read this as saying that the brotherhood didn't know about the red star, and that anyone revived was to scared to reveal their survival to the brotherhood.

Olmak? She had one, after all. The Codrex doesn't protect the beings inside, only the equipment. The Canisters protected the Toa (perhaps using the intangibility function). If she used an Olmak, she would have been incinerated.

Technically the transparent Rau was supposed to portray the bug like eyes of the Nui-Rama. Same with the Tarakava and the Nui-Jaga, they incorporated the masks into their design to make it fun to knock them off, but canon-wise I'm quite sure that they weren't real masks. The only real ones were the masks the Muaka and Kane-Ra sets had (and maybe the Manas, but that's debatable... In the Mata Nui Online Game, the Tarakava's mask is removed by Gali. In Chronicles 4, Tahu is suprised that the Rahi Nui serves Makuta but wears no mask. This implies that every rahi that they fought in 2001 (including the Nui-Rama and the Nui-Jaga) wore an infected mask. That being said, as far as I know, you are correct in saying that the Kanohi represented parts of the rahis' design, not masks that cover their faces.

If I couldn't see him, I would like to ask Tren Krom a few questions. He is one of the most interesting characters. If I had to look at the character, then I would not want to meet someone who can destroy your sanity just by making you look at him. In that case, I would like to speak to Turaga Nuju, providing that there is someone to translate his speech. If THAT isn't the case, then I would want to speak to Velika.

I was going to say exactly this.

Why? Wouldn't it be more efficient to go right to Metru Nui? (If in space.) There's nothing they would need to be doing at the Mangaia so far as I recall. If they went into space, Mangaia would be the most efficient way back into the robot. (unless there is another path besides Mangaia or the Maze of Shadows that I am forgetting) Although I still am not sure why they need to leave the robot at all. My only theory is that sending the canisters through space is more efficient than sending them through passageways inside the robot (we know that the canisters can protect the toa from the energy storms).

Actually BS01 states that a being's destiny can alter over the course of their life. BS01 is wrong, then.

Spherus Magna, by real-life standards, is an impossibly large planet. The planet would collapse under it's own weight. Energized Protodermis does not follow real life physics, and has strange, destiny-based transforming powers. (it does whatever Greg wants it to do) It has been shown stabilizing the Mata Nui robot's power source by "continuously transforming it". I always assumed that the Agori and Glatorian were simply mining the stuff in a processes similar to how we drill for oil and that when they removed enough of it, it stopped "transforming" the planet's core, causing the planet to explode. Does it make any scientific sense? No. Does it make sense in Bionicle Physics? Yes.

The key word in science fiction is fiction, not science. That being said, let's give Bionicle one exception to science and see if everything else makes sense. Let's consider protodermis to be this "miracle exception." It seems that protodermis is different from normal matter on a subatomic level. Protons and neutrons are hadrons, particles composed of quarks held together by the strong force. If the atoms in protodermic matter was composed of hadrons other than protons and neutrons (in the same way that antimatter atoms replace protons with anti-protons and electrons with positrons), then we could have protodermic versions of every element on the periodic table, and thus every molecule that can be made of ordinary matter. Given that we have seen protodermic versions of many common substances (such as water), this seems to me to be the most likely scenario. This Protodermic matter (protodermis), can have as many differences from regular matter as the author wants as long as it kept consistent.

BS01 is referring to a plant named after Karzahni. http://biosector01.com/wiki/index.php/Karzahni_(Plant)

Karzahni did not serve the Brotherhood of Makuta. He should be moved to a category (along with Artakha). Umbra did truly not serve the Order, he simply had similar goals. The Order labeled him as a servant of the organization in their arrogance. (Mata Nui help the Order member who tries to take the Ignika) Will other names be added later?

I'm not finding any denials of this later... Would someone with the desire and the ability to update BS01 please do so? http://biosector01.com/wiki/index.php/Timeline/The_Great_Rescue

It would help if you could specify the words of these statements and/or who they are spoken by. I know the game pretty well and I can't think of anything like them. And the makers did know or at least have some idea about Bionicle stuff beyond the Mata Nui arc. Among the telescope imagery both the face of the giant robot and the Ignika design can be found, the first of which is also hinted at with the 'impenetrable rock layer' in Onu-Koro. Don't quote me on this, I was literally just editing some files in MNOG, but I believe the tradesman at the edge of po-wahi says it when you ask him about the quarry. He does indeed mention "the Path of Prophecies, which the ancient carvers made." I'm fairly sure that's the head statues in front of Po-Koro's entrance. In the first Bohrok episode they're credited as Hafu's work. BS01 confirms this. They were carved very early on, so they would be considered ancient.

I may be remembering this wrong, but I thought that Greg confirmed that the Toa Metru hid the Great Masks and kept the noble ones to use as Turaga.