masterchirox580

 

 

What's the worst thing Lego HAS done to Bionicle?

Um not enough brown on Pohatu and lewa being called master of jungle and not master of air, I can't think of anything else.

 

The new Pohatu has about as much Dark Orange as Lewa has Bright Green. In fact, the new Pohatu technically has more Dark Orange pieces than the original had Earth Orange (Mata Brown) pieces. Six Dark Orange pieces on the new Pohatu, and only four Earth Orange pieces on the original Pohatu. All things considered, if that's the worst LEGO has done so far, I think that's pretty good!

 

If I had to list what I think the worst they've done is, I think I'd list two things: the hard-to-read text formatting on the teaser site, and making the blue eyes on Tahu, Kopaka, and some of the Protectors Tr. Light Blue instead of Tr. Fluorescent Blue. The former is fixable, and the latter is an extremely minor quibble. Tr. Light Blue looks fine, but a fluorescent color could have been so much better!

 

Yeah but I hate the way he has two different coloured arms(one brown one silver)if they made the other arm brown I wouldn't have any problems with him. And yes I agree the new bionicle is almost perfect.

What's the worst thing Lego HAS done to Bionicle?

Um not enough brown on Pohatu and lewa being called master of jungle and not master of air, I can't think of anything else.

   At first after looking at the topic name, I gave it some thought and I believed that stopping the comics would put Bionicle into a watered down, Hero-Factory-ish flop. The comics were the best thing about Bionicle, besides the sets. I remember reading Death of a Hero (maybe because I just re-read it yesterday), but I remember the huge surprise when Matoro gave his life for his friends. I remember the surprise when Makuta possessed Mata Nui's true body, and forced the mask to a different world. I remember how much of an influence on my love with Bionicle it had.

 

   I then thought that the worst thing they could do is give us the comics, and target it to 6 year olds. The worst part about Hero Factory is most definitely the toddler's storyline. It was so simple and childish that it wasn't of any interest. Lego needs to deliver with this new generation. It will get sales regardless of what it does, but whether it's significant or not may depend on this.

 

   But maybe it's to trade out the comics for a TV series. A comic book is easily accessible. A TV series is only available when it's scheduled. A comic book is free. A TV series takes a huge amount of time and effort for just one episode. Every time I got a comic book from the Lego magazine, I would read it about two or three times before I even left my hand from it. A TV show can be very good, but an annoying voice, a bad animation; anything like that can make it fail and fall.

 

   They could even fail with the set design. A lot of people don't like the set design. Lego is trying something new. They tried something new when they first started Bionicle, and they're trying something new again. In this point, however, I defend. I think Lego will do a very good job combining the Hero Factory and Bionicle pieces. However, this could be the killer if the fans don't like it.

 

   Pricing. 'Nuff said.

 

   These are the worst things I think that Bionicle can do in this newer generation.

There won't be comics in the lego magazine, however there will be graphic novels later in 2015.

@masterchirox580

 

Y'know, "kaukau" is Polynesian for "food." In addition, Chirox's name is a pun on Chiroptera, the taxonomical family that bats belong to.

Now I know!

 

Just bring back the old McToran to give something to old time fans

Because old-time fans are TOTALLY in the Happy Meal age range.

 

Well let's just say that hardcore fans won't really mind, I've actually seen a video on youtube of a brony who went to mcdonalds and bought two happy meals to get a small plastic Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dash(both of which looked terrible might I add).

I know I won't be getting any, the sets and the graphic novels are enough, will they even make those things in my size?

 

They're not demeaning children by refusing to cram a million made up words into their story.

 

Correction, a lot of the "made up words"(such as toa turaga kanohi)are actually words from various Polynesian languages(the main language used being the Maori language).

Huh taking this into account I just realized something, bionicle was sorta educational, it taught you words from various old languages.

 

 

I shall keep to my promise, and when BIONICLE 2015 releases, I shall make a stopmotion video of the Fikou, Visorak, Sea Spider, Skull Spider and Lord of Skull Spiders doing battle!

 

Who will be the true lord of the spiders?

 

Don't forget Fenrakk!

 What about the other Fenrakk from the playsets?

 

 

 

 

 

One thing I love about the new sets is the fact they're not focusing on some blaster of some kind, none of the toa have blasters which is fantastic, I prefer them having swords spears axes(etc etc). One problem with the later waves of the theme was those blasters, half the time they overshadowed the melee weapons, and in 2008 they barely had melee weapons at all. Sure the protectors have got blasters(which I really like)but at least they mix it in with other weapons.

True dat. It was an awkward consistency when every character in a wave carried the same oversized blaster. It takes away from the character's character. Though I did like Kongu's dual blasters.

Yeah Kongu was my favourite at the time, I also felt the masks got less detailed over the years(another thing this new line has fixed).

 

Really? If anything, I felt they got more detailed, overdetailed, even. The original masks all had a simple elegance to them, while later masks seemed to depend on loads of textures and grooves to cut a defining silhouette.

 

That's why, of the new redesigns, the Miru is my least favorite; it is covered with unnecessary mechanical detailing, and that annoys me.

I disagree(at least in the toa's case)over time you could barely tell them apart, not to mention all those half masks we got, maybe it wasn't less detail but all I do know is they did something wrong.

What half masks are you talking about? The only things I can think of that fit that description are the Vahi, Glatorian helmets, The Kakama Phantoka, and possibly some of the masks/heads used in villain sets. For all of the later mask's flaws, their uniqueness was not one of them IMO.

 

The masks you listed were exactly what I was thinking about(minus the vahi), it seemed to have been a growing trend among the sets(and not one that I liked), what I hated about the later masks was the fact they all shared the same characteristics and did not look all that appealing.

 

I must admit I hated the way lego treated the HF fanbase, HF fans asked for new characters, lego said "nope", HF fans asked for more emphasis on story, lego said "nope", HF fans ask for a more mature HF, lego said "nope". As far as I'm concerned lego killed HF themselves because they were scared of.......what were they scared of again?

I think you're making a big assumption by thinking that HF fans in general all wanted the same things you did. I didn't particularly want a more mature Hero Factory (not if it meant losing its lighthearted, cartoony tone), and I definitely didn't want more characters (not if it meant more of the established characters falling by the wayside).

 

As for more emphasis on story? Well, I guess that could have been nice, but it depends on what you mean by emphasis. Making things like the online games more story-driven and putting up more online bios and weapon descriptions is one thing; but spreading the storyline across as many different media as BIONICLE did is a whole different beast.

 

And saying LEGO "killed" Hero Factory is a little bit presumptuous. The decision to bring back BIONICLE was apparently made about two years ago, after Hero Factory had been going fairly strong for about three years. At that point Hero Factory's fate was pretty much sealed, and it's possible that keeping it running once the BIONICLE theme was ready for launch was never even a goal of theirs. Nevertheless, the LEGO Group's designers kept Hero Factory going and kept bringing new innovations to the table. Personally I think Hero Factory's final year has been one of its best as far as sets are concerned, and the "Invasion from Below" animated episode was great on a visual level even though the writing for it and "Brain Attack" was rather poor.

 

Well a lot of people wanted hero factory to be more character driven and just deeper in general.

While I don't think it would have been as complicated as say bionicle I would have liked something beyond those little TV specials, although I hear the secret missions books weren't too bad(but there were only six of those anyway).

I doubt HF could have been selling all that great if they decided to cancel it after two and a half years in production, unless I can see some exact sales figures I highly doubt the lego execs would just spontaneously say "hmm HF sales figures are doing really well, I know let's cancel HF and bring back bionicle".

 

And here's legos response "since when did we care about hero factorys story, and since when did we care about the fans", sorry to say but hero factory is gonna go.

 

 

I agree. Hero Factory is most probably gonna be discontinued without Lego caring too much about the loose ends it will have at the end. Just take in count all the resources and effort that is being put on Bionicle 2015, and that HF's story was designed in an episodic way making it easier for kids to jump into it at anytime, and also making it easier to finish when Lego wanted to.

 

I must admit I hated the way lego treated the HF fanbase, HF fans asked for new characters, lego said "nope", HF fans asked for more emphasis on story, lego said "nope", HF fans ask for a more mature HF, lego said "nope". As far as I'm concerned lego killed HF themselves because they were scared of.......what were they scared of again?

 

 

 

One thing I love about the new sets is the fact they're not focusing on some blaster of some kind, none of the toa have blasters which is fantastic, I prefer them having swords spears axes(etc etc). One problem with the later waves of the theme was those blasters, half the time they overshadowed the melee weapons, and in 2008 they barely had melee weapons at all. Sure the protectors have got blasters(which I really like)but at least they mix it in with other weapons.

True dat. It was an awkward consistency when every character in a wave carried the same oversized blaster. It takes away from the character's character. Though I did like Kongu's dual blasters.

 

Yeah Kongu was my favourite at the time, I also felt the masks got less detailed over the years(another thing this new line has fixed).

 

 

Really? If anything, I felt they got more detailed, overdetailed, even. The original masks all had a simple elegance to them, while later masks seemed to depend on loads of textures and grooves to cut a defining silhouette.

 

That's why, of the new redesigns, the Miru is my least favorite; it is covered with unnecessary mechanical detailing, and that annoys me.

 

I disagree(at least in the toa's case)over time you could barely tell them apart, not to mention all those half masks we got, maybe it wasn't less detail but all I do know is they did something wrong.

 

One thing I love about the new sets is the fact they're not focusing on some blaster of some kind, none of the toa have blasters which is fantastic, I prefer them having swords spears axes(etc etc). One problem with the later waves of the theme was those blasters, half the time they overshadowed the melee weapons, and in 2008 they barely had melee weapons at all. Sure the protectors have got blasters(which I really like)but at least they mix it in with other weapons.

True dat. It was an awkward consistency when every character in a wave carried the same oversized blaster. It takes away from the character's character. Though I did like Kongu's dual blasters.

 

Yeah Kongu was my favourite at the time, I also felt the masks got less detailed over the years(another thing this new line has fixed).

One thing I love about the new sets is the fact they're not focusing on some blaster of some kind, none of the toa have blasters which is fantastic, I prefer them having swords spears axes(etc etc). One problem with the later waves of the theme was those blasters, half the time they overshadowed the melee weapons, and in 2008 they barely had melee weapons at all. Sure the protectors have got blasters(which I really like)but at least they mix it in with other weapons.

 

Personally I wouldn't like that at all, and besides it's not gonna happen anyway, lego have some kind of policy in place that stops them selling sets with food.

Maybe they do... But what if instead of mask packs they distribute a single mask for a happy meal toy it isn't exactly a set that way but a piece.

 

It could be the grand hunt for the masks of power at the island of McDonalds, budabupbabaa

 

I don't know about that but I doubt that would happen, sure there was TLM cups but remember it was licenced via warner bros and they only gave them cups(and I believe lego did not manufacturer them). I don't think lego would be willing to risk their public image, after all look what happened with shell.

 

Well, we have gotten a billion images for 2015 sets... No HF!

I mean, LEGO is not even trying hard to make HF successful. Probably because they were working on Bionicle at the time. Oh well. HF had a good-ish run Lets all hope LEGO nails Bionicle it its new run!

But we don't know if there are any Hero Factory sets in 2015 yet. We need proof. Perhaps an announcement from Lego that Hero Factory is ending might work. I mean, it worked on Bionicle in November 2009, so we would probably wait for that this November, according to my calculations since the IFB TV episode didn't go well (which could be the reason why it is not shown in our TV sets). And also, I believe leaked pictures of future Hero Factory sets usually won't come out until until the end of October every year, if I calculate correctly.

Anyway, there are some things unresolved. I mean, we don't know about who the guy that got the Hero Factory plans and the guy that sent the Brain to attack the Hero Factory are. We don't know what will happen next after a cocoon is in the Alpha 1 Team's Dropship in the end of the IFB TV episode, either. And also, what about the anti-Hero-Factory government conspiracy in the cancelled Secret Missions books? What about the live-action Hero Factory movie? I feel it's sad to see them unanswered. If Hero Factory is really ending as we speak, then I hope that the story would wrap up with the Hero Factory fighting against a Villain Factory that the unknown Breakout guy seems to want to use the Hero Factory plans to create. I feel that Hero Factory needs more time for this and perhaps other unresolved things, so it could end. It would also give us small sets similar to Bionicle Stars in 2010 (like Hero Factory Stars can they be called?), in its (future) final wave.

 

And here's legos response "since when did we care about hero factorys story, and since when did we care about the fans", sorry to say but hero factory is gonna go.

He mentions deeper characters, the more lego talks about this the more faith in the reboot I have.

Something interesting I noticed about the early concept art for Tahu was that he has a round piece with a symbol on his chest, kinda like the hero cores, I wonder if it was an idea they had during development.

Basically, this was the grandaddy of Galidor.

Well to be fair those were just prototypes so they could have changed to become more appealing, not to mention these prototypes used actual lego pieces whereas galidor did not(seriously what were they thinking with that).

Well for those of you who aren't aware of what this was cybots was a cancelled lego theme that was in development during 1995, I'd recommend you look at the brickipedia page on the planned theme(there you can view the prototypes and back story). 

Links here:http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/CYBOTS

So what do you think of the theme? What do you think the models would have looked like(had they gone past the prototype stages)? Could it have been successful? And had this theme been released how do you think it would have affected the future of constraction themes?

I wonder if they will have names in story only(kinda like what they did with the word toa), I also wonder if they will be known as Vakama Nokama Matua(etc etc).

I'm so excited that I'm gonna patiently wait till they're released, what did you expect me to start eating my Toa nuva or something like that.

Although I haven't seen the movie I will say I have my doubts about it, seriously WB TLM took 6 years to be released and now you guys are squeezing every little aspect of TLM and making a spin off of it, not to mention being made in far less time then TLM. What's next lego Milhouse the movie.

The worst possible thing they could do?

 

Introduce a Human male preteen who discovers that he is the Chosen One destined to save Otoko, and must receive help from his bestest best buddies the Masters!

 

*shudders*

Presenting bionicle the live action movie, directed by Micheal Bay.

 

Personally I wouldn't like that at all, and besides it's not gonna happen anyway, lego have some kind of policy in place that stops them selling sets with food.

Source?

 

http://brickset.com/article/9492/false-alarm-no-lego-in-happy-meals

Question 1: unsure

I don't think I can judge the story until it's been told, whilst I see the potential in the story idea I think I'll have to wait until the graphic novels are released and hopefully the story Ekimu and Makuta is fleshed out a little more.

Question 2: yes

I see no reason why kids won't get into this, though to be fair there can never be a guarantee of huge booming sales for any product(ain't that right chima marketers).

Question 3: I like it 

One thing I was worried about when it came to a reboot was that they would go to far and make into something that isn't bionicle, thankfully I was wrong, they seem to be very respectful of what bionicle was whilst creating something new.