masterchirox580

So this is where you introduce yourself, well in that case hi I'm masterchirox580, I've been into bionicle since I was three or four and to this day have strong feelings for the theme, I decided to come to BZpower as bionicle is coming back next year and I believe said comeback will bring new life to the community.

 

So how will bio 2015 be revealed, a simple twitter post, a big livestream event, a simple press release, or maybe something else entirely, what do you think?

 

If you follow LEGO's Twitter page, you may have noticed that they are counting down to some kind of special reveal. It's assumed to be a reveal of Bionicle based on a few key factors. You can check that out here.

 

-Rez

 

I'd love it if at said event Lego said the following:

Yes we admit it, we're reintroducing bionicle in 2015, we are aware that the grand majority already know this because many of you couldn't be patient and ruined the surprise, so yeah I don't even know why we're doing this reveal when you all already know.

That would be a pretty funny reveal.

So how will bio 2015 be revealed, a simple twitter post, a big livestream event, a simple press release, or maybe something else entirely, what do you think?

 

Easily exo-force, the sets themselves just had more personality to them and the sets just had better design, I can't even make sense of half the IFB sets(seriously could someone please explain the flea machine to me).

It's a three-legged walker with a grappling claw? Not that difficult to comprehend...

 

Well here's a better question, what were they thinking when they designed that thing, seriously that thing looks awful.

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure it's over for HF, IFB sorta confirms this to me, the fact they had to try and emulate regular lego sets shows they've lost all faith in it as a constraction theme, and I don't believe IFB has been selling all that well(if I am wrong please correct me).

It shows no such thing. BIONICLE had actual System playsets for three years, but that didn't mean the designers didn't think it would be successful as a constraction theme, it simply meant they wanted to try something they could never do at a regular constraction scale. Meanwhile, unlike the BIONICLE playsets, the building styles used in Invasion from Below are no different than what you'd find in any other constraction set.

 

The most likely reason for the change in scale in Invasion from Below is that the LEGO Group wanted to cash in the popularity of mecha and giant monster franchises like Pacific Rim and Godzilla, and it would have been impossible to evoke that kind of colossal scale with regular constraction sets. I doubt it has anything to do with the Brain Attack sets not selling, since the number of set stayed the same between 2013 and 2014, and the average price for a set and the total price for the theme as a whole actually INCREASED. (2013 sets cost $213 total, or $14.20 on average, while 2014 sets cost $250 total, or $16.67 on average). The LEGO Group has shown time and time again what they do when they think a theme is running out of steam — they reduce both the number and average price of new sets for that theme. The BIONICLE Stars are a perfect example.

 

I have no idea how well Invasion from Below is selling, but I haven't seen any indication that it's been doing poorly. People have been saying Hero Factory has been doing poorly since it began, but LEGO still kept coming out with new sets. With that said, I do think Invasion from Below will probably be the last series of Hero Factory sets, since BIONICLE's return seems like it's going to be a pretty big deal for the LEGO Group and they might not want to jeopardize that by releasing a whole bunch of other constraction sets alongside it.

 

Well the bionicle system sets ran along side the action figures so that really doesn't count seeing as to how Hero factory has had it's style nearly replaced(with the exception of the beasts). That aside I admit I probably should have written that better, however to my understanding the marketing budget for HF has been cut yearly which would suggest lackluster sales. And I believe lego talked about this before when they were questioned about how well HF sells and there response was pretty much "meh" the fact they feel they have to bring back bionicle shows HF can't be doing all that well.

 

To say Hero Factory had its style "nearly replaced" is an overstatement—all of the sets were still almost entirely constraction-based, to the point where the majority of beast sets would not look out of place next to full-sized Heroes from previous years. But of course, in that case they'd be a lot less impressive compared to the titanic scale they were given by virtue of the shift to minifigure-scale. And the switch to minifigure mechs rather than traditional humanoid heroes allowed for a lot more diversity in terms of set designs—a good thing whether or not Hero Factory was struggling.

 

Hero Factory has never been an exceptional success like Bionicle was in its early years, and I feel Lego was fairly content with that. Bionicle's return could certainly indicate that Hero Factory was failing, but honestly I think it has more to do with Lego being in a better state to make Bionicle a success. These days, Lego movies and TV shows are much more common, and successful, than they were back in Bionicle's day when a movie about Lego was seen as a novelty at best. This is a prime time to bring back one of Lego's first story-intensive themes. Hero Factory missed its chance to win over hearts and minds in its first year, so there's no doubt the fresh start Bionicle provides could jump-start the constraction category in general.

 

What I meant by "had it's style nearly replaced" was that they switched from humanoid robot things to mechs, and I personally believe they're bringing back bio because HF is failing and they think bio could save that market for them(after all it did sorta save the entire company when it first came out). I hope that at some point in the future lego explain why they decided to bring it back.

Easily exo-force, the sets themselves just had more personality to them and the sets just had better design, I can't even make sense of half the IFB sets(seriously could someone please explain the flea machine to me).

 

I'm pretty sure it's over for HF, IFB sorta confirms this to me, the fact they had to try and emulate regular lego sets shows they've lost all faith in it as a constraction theme, and I don't believe IFB has been selling all that well(if I am wrong please correct me).

It shows no such thing. BIONICLE had actual System playsets for three years, but that didn't mean the designers didn't think it would be successful as a constraction theme, it simply meant they wanted to try something they could never do at a regular constraction scale. Meanwhile, unlike the BIONICLE playsets, the building styles used in Invasion from Below are no different than what you'd find in any other constraction set.

 

The most likely reason for the change in scale in Invasion from Below is that the LEGO Group wanted to cash in the popularity of mecha and giant monster franchises like Pacific Rim and Godzilla, and it would have been impossible to evoke that kind of colossal scale with regular constraction sets. I doubt it has anything to do with the Brain Attack sets not selling, since the number of set stayed the same between 2013 and 2014, and the average price for a set and the total price for the theme as a whole actually INCREASED. (2013 sets cost $213 total, or $14.20 on average, while 2014 sets cost $250 total, or $16.67 on average). The LEGO Group has shown time and time again what they do when they think a theme is running out of steam — they reduce both the number and average price of new sets for that theme. The BIONICLE Stars are a perfect example.

 

I have no idea how well Invasion from Below is selling, but I haven't seen any indication that it's been doing poorly. People have been saying Hero Factory has been doing poorly since it began, but LEGO still kept coming out with new sets. With that said, I do think Invasion from Below will probably be the last series of Hero Factory sets, since BIONICLE's return seems like it's going to be a pretty big deal for the LEGO Group and they might not want to jeopardize that by releasing a whole bunch of other constraction sets alongside it.

 

Well the bionicle system sets ran along side the action figures so that really doesn't count seeing as to how Hero factory has had it's style nearly replaced(with the exception of the beasts). That aside I admit I probably should have written that better, however to my understanding the marketing budget for HF has been cut yearly which would suggest lackluster sales. And I believe lego talked about this before when they were questioned about how well HF sells and there response was pretty much "meh" the fact they feel they have to bring back bionicle shows HF can't be doing all that well.

 

I'm pretty sure it's over for HF, IFB sorta confirms this to me, the fact they had to try and emulate regular lego sets shows they've lost all faith in it as a constraction theme, and I don't believe IFB has been selling all that well(if I am wrong please correct me).

I'm pretty sure you're wrong. Invasion From Below did probably switch to using minifigures to freshen things up (and I'd say it succeeded, given how much more diverse and unique this year's sets were than previous years), but if Lego REALLY had no faith in the theme, we'd have gotten a small wave with only a few new molds, like the Bionicle Stars—not two massive waves with plenty of new parts designed to integrate the CCBS with minifigures. And I haven't seen any indication that the Invasion From Below sets have been unpopular—the sets haven't been experiencing steep discounts anywhere that I've seen, and in terms of online reactions I've probably seen more praise for the Invasion From Below sets than I've ever seen for Hero Factory in general.

 

Could you give me an example of how many new molds we got beyond the minifigures, cockpits, spider things, that monster head mold, and that backpack thing, because beyond that I don't see much.

Ah yes my lego network the thing that everyone forgot about, yeah I remember the good old days of that thing, it was fun when I was younger but now I realize it's pretty boring and they may as well just kill it off. I mean seriously it doesn't even promote any modern lego themes.

I'm pretty sure it's over for HF, IFB sorta confirms this to me, the fact they had to try and emulate regular lego sets shows they've lost all faith in it as a constraction theme, and I don't believe IFB has been selling all that well(if I am wrong please correct me).

Ah hello everybody, it's my first time posting on this forum so ah nice to meet all of ya, anyway on to the topic at hand, I personally believe this is a reboot that will take large inspiration from the earlier years of the theme. I also believe that the mask in the thumbnail is an entirely new mask that will take inspiration from the previous line(and might even share the same name as say one of the previous gold masks). As for the story, I have no idea, and I don't believe I'm allowed to talk about the awesome images.