Great Being #1

New story somewhere else that ties into SM would be ideal. Serials should be completed and their stories/repercussions worked into the main plot as well. As for the driving force, let it just be mysterious again!

Ahahah thanks a lot guys!

I'm not very good at this staying active thing am I well I've been on a couple times since my last entry but didnt really have time to post or hang around much. I guess that's what happens when you're studying electrical engineering at a top school, doesnt leave much time for other stuff. Anyway in the meantime I finish the N Silver book and am trying to find time to read The Brain That Changes Itself. I've also been keeping up with one of my favourite things, sports. The Super Bowl was great though i'm not sure why everybody thinks Beyonce's performance was amazing. Dont get me wrong she was great but i feel like the stage and routine was too cluttered. My Raps swung a big deal and landed Rudy Gay which makes me happy since he's a great basketball players. Oh and hockey's making everybody in Canada super happy. Anywho that's about it, now back to schoolwork. ~GB#1

So as some of you may know I've basically been MIA from BZ/BS01 for 2 years. This is due to mostly your typical RL stuff then again you never know, maybe the end of the bionicle line affected me subconsciously or something Anyway I'm sorta kinda back (new and improved with PMship) as in i'm trying to be around multiple times a week. In the meantime not much special going on going through the typical struggles of an Electrical/Computer Eng undergrad student. I'm also currently reading The Signal and the Noise: Why Many Predictions Fail-but Some Don't by Nate Silver. I'm only about two thirds of the way though but have thoroughly enjoyed it so far. As the title implies the book talks about predictions/forecasts, the reasons for their success/failure and how to make them more accurate. This is done though many examples ranging from sports to economics to weather to poker. Although the author is a statistician the book is not very math/math-theory heavy (although there is a decent number of stats to back up the claims). I would recommend it to everybody as its a great read. ~GB#1

OK that's so cool. I wonder how it compares to modern houses structurally, Lego seems to be incredibly durable and strong so it wouldn't surprise me if it could survive even in fairly harsh climates.

Ny'oh my gawd that's so awesome. I do wonder if it would be possible to build a legit fully functional house out of lego?

Bones that's exactly what i said 15-20 posts ago (near the end of page one) except that i phrased it in a way of the people "fixing" the red star rather than killing the Kestora (maybe they can reprogram them or something).

Are we sure he's eliminating just people who are acting out of the GB's plans however? I feel like basically everybody from the MU should be dead by that description.

Well Velika obviously hated how poorly he was fixed when sent to Karzahni so that could be an answer to his murder but it would not explain much else.

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So there's a chance my mini-theory is plausible then if the Red Star does indeed still take the dead from MN. I admit its more than shaky but it kinda makes sense and that way we could still think of Velika as a good guy.

So we dont know if the red star is still teleporting people to it even from SM? I guess youre right the memorial wouldn't make much sense but still maybe he's making it in case they cant figure out a way to get back :S I dont know

Thats awesome, random spontaneous Bionicle encounters.

I wish they were used in the story like how the Toa Kaita were, wouldn't the end of MNOG been perfect for it when Takua and the left hand matoran have to defend kini-nui they should've turned into and matoran nui to beat the rahi. How awesome would've that been?

Man i go to write an exam come back and this topic exploded for like 10 posts in a couple hours Anyway on the subject of Velika i do not think that he is inherently evil, he just has a different (or twisted from our perspective if you want) mind most likely but then again if Annona couldnt figure out the GBs' minds how can we possibly dare to We do not know how early Velika realized whatever he realized so he may have very well came up with a plan well before any of the rebelions then again it also could have been when he got sent to Karzahni or during the Inika time. As for his sincerity that doesnt have to be acting at all for him to be evil from our point of view. From his point of view these murders are part of some greater plan (that also involves the Nuva doing some more stuff) so he very well could think he's doing something "for the greater good" or something along those lines. Realistically until we get more story we wont be able to say much. Bones brings up another good point about Velika's knowledge of the Red Star. It makes me think of a semi theory, maybe he got so off about teh star malfunctioning that he's trying to send up as many warriors as possible so they can kill/reprogram the Kestora and get the red star working again (or reprogram it to accept agori and send people back down to SM now that the robot is destroyed). If that was the case he really would be killing them for the right reasons. However the red star link to the robot not its inhabitants right (otherwise Karzahni would be up there wouldnt he?). I dont know it wouldnt explain the tren krom murder but could explain some of this other stuff.

If i remember correctly Toa become Turaga under the condition that they have completed their destiny as Toa and do not wish to stay Toa. Now seeing as their destiny was to reawaken Mata Nui it appears they have fulfilled it, i guess they decided to stay Toa to help out with the resistance efforts at the minimum since Teridax took control once they awoke the robot.

So bones what you're saying is that maybe Velika actually was behind Teridax's plan and manipulated him into doing it? There's a very interesting quote in the last Powers That Be: "As time passed and things had become clear to him, he had known this time would come." It makes it seem as if his perspective and intentions had indeed changed over the course of time inside MN. I think you might be on to something bones.

Maybe he knew Teridax still had to take over for the reformation to happen even though he was evil. I don't think he really needed to do anything to make sure that happened, though, and anyway he couldn't have influenced something so major and still been a passive observer. Maybe he didn't care if Mata Nui's mission was completed, and just wanted to see for himself. It would make sense for him make a little exception to his life of non-interference to help ensure Mata Nui was saved, after all the Matoran Universe was his adopted home. I just thought of an analogy (though it might be unnecessary, I'll say it anyway): you might go to a stadium to watch a sports game, but whether or not you care about which team wins, you would care if the stadium caught fire during the game. Or maybe the GBs, once they saw that Teridax went rogue, decided that he would have to take over to banish Mata Nui to SM so he could awaken the prototype robot. As such, Velika went along with Teridax's plan to make sure that SM was reformed. ///////// What makes you think the other GB's were aware of anything going on in MN? Velika sunk off into MN without the knowledge of the other GBs so i think everything was Velika's call and not that of the GBs as a group.

Yeah that all makes perfect sense and i'm sure he would've definitely had a backup plan on how to leave Mata Nui or to restore him if all else failed. Also the only reason i brought up Teridax is that the way velika is seen thinking about a "plan" is very reminiscent of Teridax and his obsession with his plan. If I was a writer i would for sure explore that angle but alas i'm a math guy so i wont I dont know i'll probably never fully accept the fact that he seemed to do less that he could've (and yes i understand sometimes its best to do the bare minimum but he could've saved a lot of time and was probably aware of Teridax's plan and would've been able to get away from everybody once on SM and still kill everybody) but now i'm better with it.

Well then that would make it seem he also had the skills/powers he used to kill Karzahni and Tren Krom in Mata Nui right? Meaning he could've done more than what he did vs the Piraka lets say. There's no chance that Teridax somehow managed to escape the robot and take control of Velika's body and subdue his mind right? Or that Teridax somehow found out about Velika and managed to partner up with him before all this stuff? That would make for some interesting story.

Quite possibly the best set review I've ever read Elrond look pretty cool but he was never one of my favourite characters. His "normal" face looks too angry though imo.

I guess it did work out for the best (well sort of) and we wouldnt have really had much of a story had he interfered but i dunno i just cant shake the feeling that he really did the bare minimum, especially considering he seems a fairly competent killer now outside Mata Nui. Also did Velika go back to his "GB" form (whatever he was like before taking over a matoran and going into MN) when he got out into Spherus Magna?

Oh right i forgot he was kinda rogue (then again dont most GB's kinda do their own thing most of the time?) I agree with a lot of that but even for all teh powers of the Great Being looking into the future does not seem to be one of them. So without foresight of survival (unless he had some backup plan to save himself), i revealing himself could have helped wouldn't he have done that? And then maybe gotten out of MN and back to Spherus Magna? I just feel like some of the pieces dont fit, maybe nto all of what i said is possible or reasonable but it just doesnt seem like he did everything he could without revealing himself (and even maybe revealed himself). I doubt most organisations would try anything on him out of fear of his possibly existent powers. Oh well i guess its up to our imaginations now. PS Sorry if i seem overly aggressive or argumentative, like i said before its been a while since i last did much discussing on BZ.

Yeah but wasnt he in jeopardy of dying along with the other is MN died? Self preservation if anything should've been a goal, i'm sure he knew or at least realised what was going on and should have recognized the skakdi most likely.