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Posts posted by Makuta_of_Oz
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I'm still working through my thoughts on G2 as a whole, and more importantly how it connected to BZP and my own creativity, but before that...
I want to reiterate a couple things already said upthread by others. First (like anything!) it's totally a matter of opinion how you felt about G2. So I'm not surprised there are folks out there who felt it didn't hold a candle to G1 or wasn't "Bionicle" to them, and you're totally free to express that. That said, I do ask that folks don't rah-rah "the witch is dead" quite so much and/or dump on the teams that made G2 or people who enjoyed it. It's disrespectful to the work that the teams put in, and it's disrespectful to other members who did enjoy the line and want to express their sadness that it's done with.
I also want to reiterate that quality or passion does not perfectly correlate with sales or marketability. G2 had its flaws, but acting as though everyone involved in its creation was just lazy or unskilled and therefore of course it flopped is, again, pretty rude towards the teams at LEGO that put their heart and soul into this work as they were allowed to. While we don't know - and probably won't at least for a while, if ever - how much creative control the teams had, or what direction the higher-ups at LEGO wanted to take things, that doesn't mean that LEGO never cared about the line at all.
Didn't someone famous once say it was tradition for BZPower to criticise absolutely everything?
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Do any of you have ideas on how we can bring back bionicle?
By making it a soft reboot of the original 2001 story and not another hard reboot? Should be easy to start over on Spherus Magna.
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Thinking back to when the original Bionicle got discontinued in 2010-2011, there was a lot of debate about how Bionicle should be if it was brought back, whether it should be a continuation of what we knew, or if it should be hard-rebooted. Some argued a continuation to keep the old fans, while others argued a hard reboot because the original was too complex. In the end we got a hard reboot, and it only lasted two years.
The question I have is, do you think Bionicle would've lasted beyond 2016 if the decision was made to make it a continuation or soft reboot on Spherus Magna instead of the hard reboot we got?
It's times like this I wish I had a Kanohi Olisi...
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IMO this would not have happened if it was a continuation/soft reboot and not a hard reboot. Farshtey, being the legend he is, set it up so that it could easily be soft-rebooted on Spherus Magna without needing to link to the 2001-2010 story.
Bionicle hard-rebooting caused me to lose interest very quickly, and I guess I wasn't the only genwunner to feel that way. That said, the Skrall-sized skeletons were awesome and I'm grateful for their existence. Same with the masks of Creation and Control. But frankly that was about it.
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My vote goes to 2015 because I've wanted Skrall-sized skeletons ever since I took a liking to Warcraft 3 and the Skrall.
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It's not unusual for sets to not appear in Australia. For example, we never got the Bohrok-Kal and we never got Lesovikk. We also got the Metru Nui Matoran and Toa Lhikan & Kikanalo late.
But tbh I wouldn't be surprised if Bionicle ended again. LEGO's decision to hard-reboot it instead of continuing the original canon appears to not have been a popular one. I probably shouldn't say I told you do, buuuuut...
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I'd prefer to see brand new Toa with brand new names tbh. If they redo more Gen 1 characters I won't buy them unless they have exclusive masks.
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A Toa of light, Takanuva or otherwise?
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A continuation about a millennium into the future, based in or near New Atero. It could've been done with little reference to Mata Nui or he Matoran Universe.
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>implying Australia is getting something Lego-related before America
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That each beast is multiple-of-a-kind makes them much more appealing!
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Yes, even if means 'Gen 2' is in a different dimension to 'Gen 1'.
I actually thought about that the other day, that Vezon could use his new Olmak powers to escape the Insane Great Being's fortress along with the rest of its occupants, and then have them appear in the 'Gen 2' dimension, Okoto or otherwise.
Or, if there's a 'Gen 2' Takanuva, he could be one of the 100 kidnapped by Tridax to be drained of light, and then rescued by the 'Gen 2' Tahu, Kopaka etc. before he can be locked up.
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Are the creatures really all one-of-a-kind like BionicleSector01 implies? I can't find any concrete evidence on the official website.
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Who's the hero really? All the Toa did was keep Kulta distracted. That's about as cheap as the similar final battle in Croc 2!
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"No cats were harmed in the making of this video."
Interesting how the cat in the background just slept through it all!
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Taipu.
Kapura comes a close second.
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Attention Australia! Big w in Epping currently has all of the skull villains and some of the airjitzu ninjago huzzah!!
To add to this, Big W Karingal (Frankston, Victoria) has Skull Warrior, Skull Basher and Skull Slicer, and K-Mart Frankston has all 5 of this semester's sets!
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I just have a bunch of scattered Protectors and Mask Maker v Grinder at my Target. Everything else just has discounted Toas except the ones I don't have.
In which country?
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Black Phantom. It had a lot pieces useful for making custom Skrall.
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Leaks are a constant thorn in Lego's side. Why is it never properly dealt with?
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I have ~250 sets and counting... so many that I can't post them all here. Being at uni I just don't have the time.
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I don't mind who we get as long as it's not a G1 Toa. Also I look forward to seeing the shift from Air to Jungle giving us sets of Toa of the Green for the very first time!
Also I love the idea of one Toa separating from the others and forming a new team!
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Sorry if this counts as a thread revival, and sorry also for my impatience, but by any chance have this semester's sets been released anywhere in Australia yet?
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Surprised it's not Tahu's mask tbh!
Bionicle Concludes Again
in BZPower.com News Discussion
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This announcement actually triggered me in a much more positively productive way than the first announcement. Last time, due to being emotionally unstable well before the Announcement, I pretty much declared war on LEGO with the vow that Bionicle would come back, a war I ended up losing because of the hard reboot. This time, however, I've gotten my creative juices going and started writing a little series of how I would like Bionicle to come back if it was a soft reboot (which IMO would've been the best move out of a direct continuation, a soft reboot and a hard reboot). It focuses on Velika as the new main villain, and Takanuva (but not Gali, Kopaka etc.) as the main heroes, along with a new team of 6 Toa. I might post it on BZP one day if I feel content (and well-defended knowing certain BZPers) enough.