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[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

Ah. Guessing this isn't in Creative mode, then. Considering that it's wider than it is tall, I would classify it less as a tower and more as a super-bunker, but still pretty cool.

[Jean Valjean]

I like the idea of minecraft, both the creative modes and survivor modes, although I've been told that I'd have to pay to simply play. Personally, I just want to create a castle that's around 3000x9000x45000 or something like that, though the exact idea is currently a bit fluid and it's not as if the place is a perfect box. The general idea is that I want a castle that's almost a world all by itself. It's based off of the "Master Manor" within the canon of my IDES series, and I want to be able to create something tangible so it's easier to imagine that part of the setting.Only problem is, I don't know how to start playing Minecraft and in the meantime to my understanding I can't just start spontaneously building but have to take the time to "mine" the materials.Perhaps there's something better for the project that I have in mind. There probably is. But anyway, that's what interests me about Minecraft.Your Honor,Tyrannosaurus Kraggh

[Burnmad]

Have a fun several years building that.I mean, my 250x250x50 castle will likely take weeks with my friends helping.

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Edit: Plus the map is only 128 blocks from bedrock to top, I think.

Edited February 18, 2012 by Burnmad: Toa of Emoticons

[BenLuke]

Only problem is, I don't know how to start playing Minecraft and in the meantime to my understanding I can't just start spontaneously building but have to take the time to "mine" the materials.

There is Creative Mode which gives you unlimited resources if you just want to build stuff. Edited February 18, 2012 by BenLuke-116

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

The current maximum build-height is 126 - they're upping it to 258 soon, but that isn't quite 45000. Each block is roughly equivalent to 1 meter.In Survival mode, yes, you have to mine in order to get the minerals you need. In Creative mode you start off with everything you need.

[Voltex]

Ah. Guessing this isn't in Creative mode, then. Considering that it's wider than it is tall, I would classify it less as a tower and more as a super-bunker, but still pretty cool.

I guess, yeah. Still, it's bigger than I was originally planning. Hence why I think this project will be keeping me busy for a long, long time.-ibrow

[Blendercat Toa of Coldplay]

So I was mining about in my save today, and fell into a ravine. After lighting up the entire thing and mining it dry, I continued mining in my staircase shaft, and found a huge cave with a massive sinkhole, which I am about to jump into.

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

Very nice, let us know how that sinkhole turns out.I, meanwhile, have built a 14x16x41 pillar in Flatland, and, as soon as the sun comes up, will tear down the neighboring village to build my fort atop said pillar. For stylistic reasons, it will be partly built with all the obsidian I've collected. Once this is complete, the obvious next step is a hanging forest to make good use of all those saplings I collected while wandering like a somewhat more mean-spirited Viking from village to village, trying (for the first few hours, at least) to find where I had died and lost freaking everything.

[Blendercat Toa of Coldplay]

The sinkhole seems promising. I have found at least two channels in this hole that goes from y 42 to y 16. Found plenty of LL and redstone as well as a lava pond. Will continue to explore.

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

Redstone, excellent. My current survival world isn't so much low on the stuff as completely lacking it, for obvious reasons.Nonetheless, I have managed to create a perfectly safe place for myself to spend my nights - the next obvious step is to sprinkle slabs over the bedrock surrounding it to discourage mob-spawning, put a fence around the strip-mined area (as it isn't a mob-trap like the last moat, but rather the only safe way for me to reach my new home), and finish building my little fort.

[Ehksidian]

Ok then, I tried flatworld on peaceful to find a village.Found it in 3 miniutes, and it was a double village. I took over the largest house, kicked out the testificate couple living there (Accidently killing one in the process), and raided the blacksmith shops.Got 1 iron helmet, 1 pair of iron boots, 1 iron sword, 10 bread, 5 apples, and 7 saplings.Made a small moat protecting my house and the farms, and covered any entry ways for slimes in dirt.Switched to easy, slime rave party outside my window. Laughed at it for a bit, and then slept the night off so no creepers would blow up anything.This'll be a great start for this flatland map. Hopefully there will be villages nearby with diamond or iron ingots in them... I need an iron door for 1.2, if I ever switch the map mode to hard.

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

Sounds like a good plan. When you do go raiding other villages, I advise you to leave highly visible landmarks in your path, and make sure you keep track of your x and z coordinates, in case you die and need to find the site again.

[Blendercat Toa of Coldplay]

Now I'm ticked off. After mining redstone and having it fall into the lava pond below(Not with me, of course) I, for some reason, stood watching long enough for me to turn around, see a zombie, and get pushed into the hole.Yay for INVedit.

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

Yeesh, that's kind of unfortunate. Was there any way to put some kind of platform beneath the redstone you were mining to keep it from falling in?

[Blendercat Toa of Coldplay]

It was at the corner of a wall, so I don't think so... ah well. I'll go down and seal it up, perhaps mark it to explore later.

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

Sounds inconvenient at best. Perhaps the application of a bucket of water to the lava pool would help?

[Blendercat Toa of Coldplay]

It was literally one of about 4 or 5 caverns leading off of this sinkhole. I'll explore the rest then try a solution

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

Hmmm... Do you bring any water with you when you're exploring caves like this?

[Mad Scientist BioBeast]

Rule number one when playing Minecraft:Always have a bucket of water on hand.

[Lara White]

Actually, rule one is never dig up. Rule two is never dig down. :w:

[Burnmad]

Nonono, you're mixed up. Rule one is never dig down, and rule two is never dig up. After all, sometimes you can't dig up, for example when you're above ground. XP

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[Mad Scientist BioBeast]

No, because even if you dig down and/or up, and you fall into lava/lava falls into you, you can still use the bucket to save yourself. Rule number two is never dig vertically.

[Burnmad]

And exactly how many people and guides have you seen, excluding yourself, who agree that the bucket thing is rule number 1? XP

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Edit: Not necessarily, regarding the saving yourself. I've never spilled my water bucket under lava, but I can't imagine it does much. And even if you're on top of the lava, what if you accidentally empty it too far away, you might die before it gets to you?

Edited February 20, 2012 by Burnmad: Toa of Emoticons

[Mad Scientist BioBeast]

True, I'm just good at using water to survive I guess...And almost everybody I know agrees that having a water bucket is very important.

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

Even in Flatland, I carry a water bucket with me when I can, simply because it's so good at confounding the slimes that plague the place.Well, actually, no. I carry two water buckets. I get paranoid about losing my water, so I make sure I've got a spare.

[Voltex]

Rule 1 would be don't dig down, Rule 2 would be don't dig up, Rule 3 would be always have water bucket. You don't necessarily need the water if you obey the first two rules.Assuming luck is on your side.-ibrow

[Burnmad]

Well, you don't need it to survive if you follow the first two rules, but you need it to advance, by which I mean extensive obsidian mining.But yeah, one time I was building my mineshaft, never digging a single block straight down and ran out of ladders, so I started a spiral staircase sorta thing. Eventually, I just decided I would just dig a block straight down. Or maybe I accidentally did it, I can't remember. But anyways, first block I mine, BOOM. Fell into a cavern, got mauled by zombies.

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[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

Rule 4 would be to make sure your bed has enough space around it for respawning.

[Ehksidian]

And rule 5: Never go into void on creative. You'll lose everything you've build if you do.Because that just happened to me today, after making my huge house that took me 3 days to build...And I had a really nice creeper face roof, too.;-;

[Burnmad]

Why did you lose everything you built? Couldn't find it?

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[Ehksidian]

Nope, it just dissapeared.I fell into viod in the nether, built a new portal, founmd the old one...Everything was gone. Except for the portal.

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

That... is probably a glitch. I've dropped myself in the void about fifty times, never lost anything (except all the maps I was carrying with me).

[Ehksidian]

Well, I was in the Nether when I fell in, so that may have been it... and I spawned in a random village nowhere near spawn.

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

Huh. Very strange.Usually when I'm working at the bedrock layer, I keep one finger on the space bar so that if I do fall into the void, I can fly back out with no harm done.

[Ehksidian]

Well, I did. But I somehow went forward, so I coulden't fly back up.So, goodbye that world, and hello new one. Maybe this time I'll be more intellegent...

[Blendercat Toa of Coldplay]

I just want to clarify there was about .5 seconds between me digging a hole NEXT TO ME that had lava and getting pushed in by a zombie. So there was no opportunity.

[Voltex]

I just found a list I made back in I think June of last year. This is meant for when you're journeying on at least normal difficulty in a standard Minecraft world, though it is out of date and also put together based on my inexperience of the time. Feel free to pick it apart. The Top Ten: Items to Take on a Minecraft Trip

• [*]Pickaxe
  • [*]Stone Pickaxe x4 or Iron Pickaxe x2 (Diamond, Gold, and Wood not advisable)[*]Pickaxes are a fundamental part of Minecraft as is; on a Trip, eventually you’re going to need more stone, coal, and iron to make yourself new tools and torches (among other things). Diamond pickaxes are inadvisable due to value.

[*]Crafting Table

• [*]Crafting Table x3 (12 Wooden Planks)[*]Like pickaxes, Crafting Tables are fundamental in Minecraft. You’ll need them to replace your tools, as well as to build any furnaces or chests (should you find yourself needing them). Bring extras so that you can leave some where you use them (usually inside a shelter).

[*]Torches

• [*]64 Stack x2 (32 Coal/Charcoal, 32 Sticks)[*]You’ll need to light your way during the darkness, as well as for any shelters you might build along the way. And who knows, you might even find a cave or two to explore.

[*]Dirt

• [*]64 Stack x3[*]Dirt is extremely useful; it’s easily destroyed, and thus good for both emergency bases, pillars, routes up (or down) and walls in caves.

[*]Cooked Meat

• [*]5 Pieces[*]It can be cooked fish, pork chops, chicken, or steak; you simply need food to replenish your health and your hunger.

[*]A Sword

• [*]Stone Sword x2 or Iron Sword x1 (Diamond, Gold, and Wood not advisable)[*]You need a weapon if you’re going on a Minecraft Trip (shame on you, peaceful); two stone swords or one iron sword should last you the way. Diamond swords are inadvisable due to value.

[*]Beds

• [*]Bed x3 (9 Wool, 9 Wooden Planks)[*]Yes, beds in the plural. This way any emergency shelters you might make don’t necessarily have to be completely torn down immediately, and can thus serve as markers on your way home.

[*]Shovel

• [*]Stone Shovel x6 (Diamond, Gold, Iron, and Wood not advisable)[*]Shovels will help you remove dirt, sand, and gravel out of your way faster if you’re in a cave; if there’s a lot, this is extremely helpful. Diamond and Iron shovels aren’t advised due to value and the relatively short life span of shovels (which is why you take 6).

[*]Bow & Arrows

• [*]Bow x2, 64 Stack x3 (Arrows; 48 Flint, 48 Sticks, 48 Feathers)[*]Swords are good for close ranged, skilful combat; however, the Bow is a far safer option, as it can be rapidly fired and has long range. Bring two in case one is lost; flint, sticks, and feathers can be found in abundance to replenish arrow supplies.

[*]Ladders

• [*]64 Stack x3 (A lot of Sticks)[*]If you’re going to be travelling up or down great heights during your journey, or travelling directly down into caves, ladders are irreplaceable; however, they run out faster than you think, so be prepared!

-ibrow

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

Diamond tools are actually extremely useful in some situations - for example, if you want to mine Obsidian, you absolutely need a Diamond Pickaxe.It should be noted, incidentally, that if you're going on a trip in Superflat, all you really need is a supply of food, a bed, and maybe a crafting table (though those can be found in villages quite easily). All the rest (and even some food) can be stolen from blacksmiths' houses, or simply raided from the village by other means. A bucket of water is, of course, advisable, but can be crafted after just one successful village raid.I'm kind of hoping, honestly, that villagers will start fighting back if you attack them in 1.2. It would make my little Viking-style raids much more interesting.

[Voltex]

Yeah, I'm hoping they'll begin to attack eventually as well.I also think small cities might be cool if they were to allow you to get a raiding party.-ibrow

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

Cities of iron (they really should make an iron block that's actually for building, not storing iron ingots) and some of the harder stones would be cool, yeah. What I'd really like to see is naturally-generated redstone-based traps, though.EDIT: Err, forgot I wasn't posting in an RPG. Sleep is your friend.

Edited February 21, 2012 by The Shadows Out of Time