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BZPower Comics Culture


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Let's start this off simply: I have been a member of the BZPower comics community since December of 2007, or almost seven years now. I've been involved in this community for longer than Dark709 at this point (as he started making comics in 2004, and left the site in '09-'10). As such, I'd like to think I've learned a lot about the interesting sort of culture that has formed there for practically a decade now.

 

If I had to describe it, and if I weren't prone to theatrics at the time, I'd describe it as "stagnant". (If I were prone to theatrics, it would be "diseased".)

 

BZPower comics have been at a complete standstill as far as innovation in comics goes. Well, not a complete standstill, but more on that later. Humorous comics are bound to all be bound by a single thread: a studio-based comic with an author avatar main character. I don't know who started the trend, but I know who popularized it the most, and that's Dark709. He was so singularly influential in the late 2000s comic making scene that, if I had to hazard a guess, 95% of comics were studio comics, and 80% used Chimoru Omega. And nobody ever expanded upon the idea, or took in a new direction. It was always played out the same. The author avatar was either cool-headed or completely crazy if the situation demanded it, some character had a stupid food obsession, some villain wanted to take over the comics (though as time dragged on that became less common), etc. In terms of story, I'd say we haven't seen much innovation since, say, 2008.

 

There were exceptions, of course. The apocryphal "the Group" made several original comics, including the legendary Generic Quest. Of course, the comics forum was already pretty set in its ways by the time comics like that started forming, and what that meant was, instead of promoting diversity the forum, a new sect of derivative comics cropped up: the photorealistic, heavily detailed kind, and the rigorous MAS adventures. The former I'll touch up on in a bit, but the latter was interesting, because what usually happened was they flopped terribly. I don't even remember if Generic Quest itself ended, but its generic brand products usually fizzled out after a couple author cycles at most. Nobody had the motivation, the organization, or the conviction to pull it off, but nobody learned, either. They just kept popping up until the forum itself started to lose momentum following the downtime.

 

Both the points I've said I'd touch upon are, in fact, the same point: photorealism/attention to detail. "The Group" and other comic makers like Nuparurocks, whose skills in image editing programs were far above those of most other people, started a veritable arms race for high-quality graphics in comics. I had forgotten about this bit of culture until recently, when I checked out a comic series at random, and found that they had gone as far as to put reflections on hardwood floors, shadows beneath the characters, and even kept the sheath of a katana on-screen after it had been discarded. All of this, and yet one thing was still missing: humor. In all the years of battling for graphic supremacy, no one had changed the formula for actually coming up with jokes. Your average BZPower comic still spouts "jokes" that have been used since I started making comics, if it has what could be called a joke to begin with. Often humor is derived from poorly-conveyed slapstick or Tim Buckley-esque blocks of text to lead up to some inane joke. Rarely have I seen people improve so much, yet so little at the same time.

 

Remember, a part of this is that I was in this. For the longest time, I made studio comics where my mediocre author avatar lorded over a cast of cardboard cutouts as I injected my terrible sense of humor into it. The only reason I don't anymore was that I broke free. I did something the Comics forum desperately needed, and innovated with my still-slightly-derivative series, BIONICLES ADVENTURS COMIXS.

 

The backlash was terrible, and continues to be. People still say I don't take the business seriously because I tried a comic the forum had never seen before, the ironically terrible. Any time I enter a site-wide contest, I'm met with harsh, passive-aggressive comments, suggesting I shouldn't have bothered, or that my entry is a joke (ironic, for the comics section). It was rough at first, true; the early comics are my most regrettable. But if I had quit and gone back to studio comics, I would have been all the worse off. Instead, I forged ahead, and some friends joined with me in making comics unlike anything this forum had seen before.*

 

BAC isn't a pinnacle of perfection, and I don't want this to come across as blowing my own saxophone. In fact, when people make new comics that try to fit the same niche, it's disappointing to me. I don't want to start a niche of comics, and BAC is really the sort of thing you can only pull off once. I want everyone to question why you make studio comics, why you use the sprites you use, or even use sprites at all, and what is truly the meaning of making visual entertainment. I managed to break away from making the same, dull comics for the rest of my BZP career, and I encourage anyone with the strength and inspiration to try something new to do so.

 

(This whole rant aside, I can think of a couple other comic series that have innovated recently, and I'd be remiss in omitting them. Rahkshi Lalonde's A Grim Development appears to be trying to break into the horror genre, and I am interested in seeing where that story goes. Kakaru's Studio Comic, despite its name, is finally breathing some new life into the genre, with a unique art style and sense of humor.)

 

*Okay, this isn't technically true. I can think of at least one other series before BAC that tried to break into the ironically awful gig, but it was pretty much straight-up sbahj jokes transplanted in a Bionicle setting, whereas BAC has started finding its own identity

 

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Apologies if this seems incoherent. This isn't so much an orgnaized essay as much as it is a stream of consciousness thing, an outpouring of my thoughts on different things about the forum, from an inside perspective. I hope this is an interesting look at a small part of the strange subculture of BZP comics.

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I very much enjoyed making comics in the time I was a part of that scene. But in retrospect I did realize that most comics in BAC just aren't funny, now or then. Frankly while sprites in themselves aren't bad, I think they gave people the tendency to just get lazy, with both content and appearance. It was hard even for me to not get caught up in the 'commercial' aspect of it, with self-promotion and guest stars and so on.

 

I was hoping to make a handdrawn comic series with some actual decent effort at humor, but I didn't get the time to commit to any more than 4 of them, so it never got posted. If the new Bionicle series sticks around for more than a year, I may give it a try once more.

Comics that are different from the norm are a very welcome sight, IMO.

EDIT: To note, I haven't looked at your comics yet. I will be sure to do so. :)

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I don't comprehend this culture nor your subversion very well. 

 

Thanks for explaining it though. I do find bits of your comics funny, like B6's car running over stuff, and that one with Greg, but for the most part I just don't get what's going on. 

 

BAC should do a hype train comic, though. I'm surprised that hasn't happened. 

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The only time all the annoying Hype Train stuff is making it into my comics is if I choose to show it crashing.

 

Or a train heist. That actually has potential. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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I admittedly don't follow the comics forum, but I do look at the polls of contests, and I think this is the first time I've seen anyone call BAC ironically terrible. In all cases that I can recall people who were fans of it seemed to not acknowledge that, and often outright denied it.

I know most of the people who make those comments; they know it's ironically terrible. They're continuing the joke by insisting it's a masterpiece. It's why I even use the term masterpiece; it's ironic, because it is truly awful. (Yet, on a deeper level, perhaps masterfully so.)

 

 

As ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE I'm going to have to disagree here, if only in that "ironically terrible" is just a really misleading way to describe it

 

Like... SBaHJ could be said to have been "ironically terrible" at first, seeing as it started out as a direct parody of a specific bad comic series, but it very quickly became its own distinct thing. And BAC never even had that going for it - it started off not as a mockery of actual bad comics, but as a blatant derivative of SBaHJ and developed its own identity from there. BAC's brand of "terrible" has always been a good ways removed from actual realistic terrible, and only distances itself further as we improve our abilities as authors and it becomes wrapped up in its own traditions and injokes

 

If I wanted to just make BAC look bad, it would be A LOT uglier, because the BAC aesthetic actually has a lot of thought put into it to make sure it only looks "bad" in exactly the right ways. If the goal was to imitate the actual bad series that populate BZP's comic forum, I'd be throwing around MS Paint airbrush effects, generic grassbrush and lensflare backgrounds, gratuitous smudge tool, etc. Instead, most of the effects used are stuff like oversaturation, constant sharpening filters, saving the comics as jpegs so low-quality that they actually wouldn't be possible in MS Paint, etc - all of which go toward creating a look very specific to BAC and things like it. Even the spelling and grammar "errors" are distinctly divorced from anything I have ever seen anyone on the internet unintentionally type like. Its visual style and sense of humor work for reasons that, while somewhat alien compared to "traditionally good", also remain mostly disconnected from actual awful things

 

Basically BAC is a DISTINCT STYLE, and kind of an acquired taste I guess, but boiling it down to "ironically terrible" is all kinds of innacurate

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for the most part I just don't get what's going on.

isn't that kind of the point of BAC though

 

I don't get what's going on enough to understand the point is not to get what's going on.

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