FallenCor

*comes back to lurk fifteen GD pages and a sudden epic finale later*You all are either absolutely brilliant, utterly insane, or both.I like it.In other news, hello again! Nickname is Cor on every other website, and though I have about four years of text-based RP experience under my belt, I can't say I've ever participated in any form of Bionicle RP; so this should prove to be an interesting ride. I'm slowly working my way through the BZPRPG Wiki, but I thought I'd check and see if y'all had any pages/subjects in particular that you think a newbie like myself should absolutely positively study up on before the start of the new season. Any tips you can provide that aren't on the rules pages and such? Also, just how far does the BZPRPG deviate from canon in terms of real-world references/equipment/etc.? (I've seen references to a bar or two, for example.) I want to know just what I'm getting myself into. Thanks in advance!

According to BS01, they would of looked like the Nuva, but their unique transformation turned them into much different Toa.^So basically the Red Star was like "lol, got something different in mind for you". And I honestly think Jovan only looks the way he does in set form because of Lego wanting to use the latest pieces. *shrug*

I believe the topic you are looking for is here, or something similar. Wasn't lost in the archives, just dead. And according to BS01, Toa had a default size in the story, but not in sets due to different pieces used(or something like that). Though there are exceptions, like Takanuva absorbing light energy in Karda. Not sure if it applies to Matoran, but I'm pretty sure it does. Thank ya. Must have missed it. XD So, most Toa would have had the same basic design (with their own take on it, of course), were it not for the toys and the need to have something different every year. Seems logical to me. And this not counting odd cases like Takanuva getting an "upgrade" in Karda Nui (again, mostly a toy thing). Lesovikk and Tahu. Both original Toa, very different armor. Also this is why Takanuva looked like a Nuva even though he's just a regular Toa Let's not forget that the Mata weren't seen for years, so it's unlikely that any Toa before the Great Cataclysm based their design on them. Lesovikk, meanwhile, has been traveling the MU for ages, so the chances of Matoran basing their Toa designs on him are greater. If Takanuva had known (or rather remembered) what the Toa Metru (and others) had looked like, I'm sure his deign would have had elements from everyone (or from Toa who's designs he liked best). Let's also not forget that the only visual representation of Lesovikk we have is that of him after he enters the Pit. We don't know (or at least I don't know) just how much the Pit waters mutated him beyond being able to breathe water. Could have been drastic, could have been minute. He could have originally looked like the Mata for all we know, or vice versa. He's also had years to collect pieces of armor to fix himself up with, thus altering his appearance.And the whole idea of Matoran making themselves look somewhat like Muaka or Skakdi amuses me.

Looks like it unfortunately ended up in the archives, but this was discussed sometime within the last month in another topic. My memory is horrible, but I believe we agreed that the Metru Nui Matoran design was the "default". (Because there were just so many Matoran of that style?) Don't quote me on that, though, ha ha. As for Toa, there isn't a default. Though, I suppose you could say that some of the first Toa were the "default", because, yes, while your armor design will shape itself upon transformation to whatever you perceive a Toa to look like, later generations of Toa would have had to base theirs on something. But again, there technically isn't.

With those stubby limbs? I don't think so. Exactly. XD"Ten widgets says they all go down like a house of cards in under three turns.""You're on." Jaller: "Place shots at A2, E4 and F4."Takua: "Darn, you hit one of my Gukko at A2 and finally sunk the Ga-Matoran boat at E4." Vakama: "I need you to roll a Reflex save."Nuju: *click whistle*Matoro: "He says he got a 2."Vakama: "Hm. The Nui-Jaga strikes with its tail, which you unfortunately fail to dodge." *Rolls die* "Take 15 damage, putting you at -1. Your mask shatters and you fall unconscious."Nuju: "..."Vakama: "Oh, I almost forgot the poison damage. *Rolls die*Nuju: *whistle click* *hand gesture*Matoro: "Turaga! I cannot translate that!"Beautiful. *dies laughing*

End of May, just like it says. I meant a specific date, but since we have an entire month, I guess it doesn't matter at the moment. lol Thanks.

I'd be surprised if they didn't have any sort of board-game. Sure, they have sports, but even that gets old sometimes. And what do you do on your coffee-break, eh? ha ha. In fact, there's a scene in a fan-fic of mine where everything has been rained out, and a few of the characters are playing a Matoran variation of Chinese Checkers to pass the time. I also don't doubt that every Koro/Metru could have it's own board-game(s). You know, games that fit the general disposition of each breed/Element.For kicks:Ko- and Ga-Matoran -- Clue/Cluedo, chess, Stratego, Senet, etc.Onu- and Po-Matoran -- Chinese Checkers, cards and Jenga? XDTa-Matoran -- Battleship and D&D.Le-Matoran -- Twister and Candy Land. *shot*

*cracks her knuckles and pulls out her tablet* So, what's the deadline?

*is late* Congrats, Pahrak #0579!

*enters the fray*So, I hear there is currently an unfortunate dearth of Turaga PCs. By happenstance, I've been working on just such a character for over a month now. Might I add an Ice Turaga to the mix come next season?

I don't think that he "rolls up in a ball". He pretty much flopped onto his back and sat there. I'm refering to the concept art on the faber files here, where the Great Spirit robot curls up into a ball to camouflage itself in space. It was a cool idea and all, but I'm actually glad they didn't go with it. I grew up watching the G1 Transformers show, and Mata Nui disguising himself as a planet would have looked like a rip-off of Unicron to some people. I don't know if that was what the Bionicle story-team thought when they ditched the idea, but I'm fine with the decision. XD As for the three-fingers idea, even if the story-team had heaped a ton of mythology onto the concept to mislead audiences (at least for the time being), I sure somebody would have figured it out early on, or at least theorized it. Next thing you know, every other fan-site is buzzing with speculation, and the jig is up before it even leaves the starting-gate.(Just started reading your epic, Bonesiii. Fascinating work.)

1. Tahu - Because for some reason I looked up to that bullheaded so-and-so when I was 10, and he's still one of my top favs all these years later. I've loved watching his character develop over the course of that decade. 2. Kopaka - Looked up to him as well while growing up, and I loved watching his character develop alongside Tahu.3. Takua/Takanuva - All-around charming/amusing character. He also has the most awesome Element, ha ha. He also gets points for not wigging out upon turning into a Toa, unlike a certain Ta-Toa. *cough*4. Vakama - His character development was a bumpy ride, but I guess that was what made it interesting. Something about him just struck a chord with me at the start, and he's been a fav ever since. As for his Turaga-self, he was an instant fav; I guess because he came off as the sort of Gandalf of Bionicle, ha ha. 5. Lhikan - A noble and wise leader who gave up his life for the Matoran and Toa. He came off as the sort of Optimus Prime of Bionicle, which I loved to see. Shame there wasn't more of him. 6. Ackar - I love seeing the old dudes make a comeback, and nobody did it better than Ackar. All-around fabulous character.7. Gelu - Awesome and sadly little-written-about Glatorian who proves that you don't need Elemental-powers to still be bad-*cough*.8. Brutaka - The whole Darth Revan type alignment-issues thing was interesting and fun to follow. Also, HE KO-ed SIX TOA AND SIX MATORAN WITH ONE BLOW. Your argument is invalid. 9. Krika - Most fascinating of all the Makuta, IMO, what with trying to foil Teridax's plans and all, and actually trying not to kill the Toa Nuva, ha ha. Also, he's a freakin' ghost-thing. How cool is that?10. Antroz - Need I explain? *plasters a sticker to Antroz's chest-armor that says "you wish you were this awesome"*10. The Vampire Trio - (Yes, I'm just going to count them as one character, because why not.) Everything I love in a villain (or in this case, villains): Antroz, the militaristic and sadistic leader. Awesome-factor further upped by having some of the best quotes. Chirox, the mad-scientist. Also had the coolest mask out of the three, IMO. Vamprah, creep-tastic bat-monster-thing. 'Nough said.*Gomez Addams (Tim Curry) voice* Not necessarily in that order.

Member name: SilverglassTheme: The VillageWord-count: 992Link: Remnant(Note: Small edit. Meant to write "the Agori tribes in the South," not West. Got my own fan-fic notes mixed up, eh heh.)

Valos readjusted his Kanohi Arthron and glanced up at the sky with a sigh. It was a while yet ‘til sundown, but already daylight was fading, veiled by the grey clouds that approached from the North and threatened to unleash their fury on the mountainside. The Av-Matoran chided himself for neglecting to pack a heavier cloak, but little could be done about it now, so far from home. “Not that a little rain will stop us, eh, boy?” he said to the Energy-hound who acted as his mount. The large canid called Axel simply snorted in response and Valos chuckled. “I thought as much. Anyway, we’d best make tracks. We don’t want to keep the villagers of Feoras waiting.” The duo hailed from Anam Nui, a great city that was the successor of Metru Nui as the capital of Matoran civilization on Spherus Magna. Valos was a courier, and on this particular day he was to deliver a number of Kanohi to a mining village far across the mountains in the East. Valos had never made the Eastern-mountains run before, but he was confident that nothing could go wrong. Though it seemed that the storm had other plans. It was soon upon him, rain coming down in torrents as the wind bent the trees and nearly tore Valos’s map from his hands. After a time, the Matoran and his hound came to a stop on a ridge that overlooked a small village that was nestled away almost completely out of sight in the little valley below. “This can’t be right,” Valos said to no-one in particular as he examined his sopping-wet map. “Nowhere on here is this village…” The sun had already vanished in the West and Valos was soaked to the bone, so he decided it was best to stop at least for a little while and rest. Axel seemed uneasy as they approached the village gate, despite Valos’s attempts to calm him, and loosed a low whine when they paused at the gate. “Ho there!” a guard called from the parapet. “What business have you in Eriu so late?” ‘Eriu…?’ Valos thought. He’d heard that name before, but knew nothing of this village. “My name’s Valos,” he told the guard, “a courier from Anam Nui, and in need of some shelter until the storm passes.” The guard ordered the gate to be opened and allow Valos passage. Just beyond, he was met by three cloaked Matoran led by a Bo-Matoran who carried a lantern. “Evening, stranger,” he said cheerfully, “what brings you all the way out here?” “I was on my way to Feoras and lost my way,” Valos explained as he dismounted Axel. “I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction.” “Feoras? That’s only a few hours’ trek from here,” the Bo-Matoran said. “It’d be best if you waited until the storm let up before setting out again, though. Come; we were heading for the Turaga’s cabin just now. She loves to tell stories of the old days on nights like this.” Valos tended to Axel first, then met up with the other Matoran at the home of the village Elder. There were at least a dozen other Matoran there, all Bo-, Le- and Ce-Matoran. Their leader was a kind Ce-Turaga, and she and the Matoran greeted Valos warmly, as though he were an old friend who’d been gone a long time. They spent hours listening to the Turaga’s tales; tales that ranged from her own adventures as a Toa, to tales she heard from the Agori tribes in the South. And at the others’ behest, Valos told a few of his own tales, of some of his misadventures as a courier, and they were delighted to find that he was also a talented artist. He made a small charcoal drawing of the Turaga and presented it to her as thanks for allowing him shelter and a chance to hear her stories. Then, to the villagers’ dismay, he announced it was time he set out again. They helped him pack for the last leg of his journey, gave him directions to Feoras and bid him farewell, and asked that he visit them again soon. He promised he would, and set out into the night, and Axel seemed glad to be moving again, though Valos believed it was simply the storm that had unnerved the hound. By dawn, Valos had finally reached Feoras, and the Po-Matoran who had placed the order for the Kanohi greeted him at the gate. “We were afraid the storm had done you in,” he said. “What kept you?” “I got turned around and ended up in Eriu,” Valos told him as he unloaded Axel’s saddlebags. “Oh, really? Spooky old ghost-town, eh?” Valos paused. “Ghost-town?” “Aye; nobody’s lived there since the war wiped it out. Shame, though. I hear it was a beautiful village back in the day.” Valos said nothing more about Eriu during his time in Feoras, but on his way back to Anam Nui, he made sure to stop by the village again, and was shocked to find that nothing was left of Eriu, save the blackened buildings that made up the heart of the village. As he wandered dumbstruck about the debris, he noted that everything looked older than it should have, as though the village had, indeed, been decimated centuries ago. He soon found himself standing where he and the villagers had gathered to hear the Turaga’s stories, and wondered if he had imagined it all. Perhaps it had been a trick of the light, or his own tired mind playing with his senses. With a sigh he turned to leave, but something caught his eye. He looked up at the only wall that still stood, and there in the middle, protected by a frame and glass, was the drawing he’d given the Turaga.

I agree. You know what? I think that girls can be from any element, that should be a change. I don't see why, and this is coming from a female. ;P I mean some on, the girls have Lightning, which is pretty darn powerful in its own right, Psionics, which gives them telepathy, telekinesis, minor mind-control, the ability to create illusions, you name it (think of how devastating a Psionics Nova Blast would be). There's also Light, and we all know how powerful that is. And if you think about it, Ga-Toa could theoretically use Bloodbending. I'd say the women are already powerful enough. I don't know why the creators decided not to allow for there to be males and females of every Element, but since it's canon, I can't say it bothers me. The story-team's word is law, in my book. I think you miss understand. We werent saying the elements the chicks had weren't powerful, we were just saying the ratio of girls to boys was a bit too low. 5:1 just isnt right. Should have been at least 2:1 in every Toa Team. Defintly shouldnt go over 1:2 if they wanted to keep boys the primary market focus. I think on Mata Nui there should have been 500 males and 500 females or something around that mark. I don't misunderstand, I simply need to stop writing posts at 3am and thus make my points clearer. What I was trying to say is that I feel that the few Elements that females have make up for the scant number of female characters. I realize that not everyone feels this way, but this is one female who doesn't mind the set-up. S'all I'm saying. You just made my day. Also, I agree with most of that stuff, but swearing I can imagine the piraka doing. If Bionicle were an adult/young-adult series, I guess they wouldn't be the Piraka without it, ha ha.

The first version you posted in this topic was fabulous; and when I opened the full-sized version, the eyes and the mouth actually had this weird effect of looking like they were moving. Like the edges were swirling and receding ever so slightly, if that makes sense. I'll admit that he appeared somewhat cute, but by golly did he look creepy. Bravo!The final version looks fantastic. I'm afraid I don't know what to suggest for the foreground tentacle, but otherwise he's completely spot-on, IMO. *rapturous applause*

I agree. You know what? I think that girls can be from any element, that should be a change. I don't see why, and this is coming from a female. ;P I mean some on, the girls have Lightning, which is pretty darn powerful in its own right, Psionics, which gives them telepathy, telekinesis, minor mind-control, the ability to create illusions, you name it (think of how devastating a Psionics Nova Blast would be). There's also Light, and we all know how powerful that is. And if you think about it, Ga-Toa could theoretically use Bloodbending. I'd say the women are already powerful enough. I don't know why the creators decided not to allow for there to be males and females of every Element, but since it's canon, I can't say it bothers me. The story-team's word is law, in my book.Technically speaking, because Matoran/Toa were built to keep the Great Spirit Robot running and were never meant to procreate, there shouldn't even be females. But we all know you can't carry a good story without us ladies, and somebody has to keep the men in line. I personally don't care that there weren't that many female characters, but my one complaint is that the personalities of the existing ones weren't diverse enough. Nokama, Gali, and Hahli all have the same freakin' basic personality, for example. It needs to be spiced up a bit, IMO. But I digress. I won't deny that in my head-canon the beings of the MU have some form of blood-like fluid coursing through their organic parts, but graphic fight-scenes in the world of Bionicle shouldn't be as bloody as everything else we read/watch. If it's going to be there, it needs to be a good story-telling element; an element that helps us better associate with the characters; something that makes the story feel real (to us humans, anyway); and it needs to be done tastefully. I'll admit that I'm rather squeamish, so I don't watch stuff like The Walking Dead or anything like Saw. That's gore for the sake of gore. I have yet to see 300, but I hear the battle was artfully done despite being one of the bloodiest movies in the history of cinema. Anywho, I think there would be more mature dialogue, jokes, etc., but again, I'd prefer that it be done tastefully. I don't really see a need for romance in a story focused on a race of beings who can't reproduce, as it would serve no logical purpose than to add to the already copious drama. The story is busy enough as it is, and adding romance would only complicate things all the more, IMO. Unless the GBs suddenly decide, "hey, we're going to adjust things so y'all can be even more like the Agori and the Glatorians" and the subject is handled with kit-gloves, I won't go for it; but that's just me.Somebody here mentioned swearing, but I'm too lazy to scroll back up and look. *points finger at said person* I imagine there would be, but that doesn't make a story good. I actually find swearing distracting. IMO, it seems like nobody can write it in a way that flows anymore and not make it stand out like a sore thumb. *shrug*Long story short, I think Bionicle would turn into a glorified sci-fi Harry Potter if they went that route, ha ha.

Biosector01 states that they were, indeed, scouts. For what specific purpose, we know not; but when it comes to characters like Sidorak, it's obvious he sent them there (and others places, if not the entire MU) to do simply that -- scout it out; gather info. If they happen to find something of use, they report back to Sidorak and he takes it from there. As for the breed, I have Island of Doom lying open to Chapter One on my lap as I write and it says nothing about the breed. To quote Chapter One, page 9 into 10:"The white figure stopped suddenly. A Visorak was watching him from behind some nearby scrub, and evidently the Toa had detected it. Casually, as if he ran into such things every day, the Toa waved his hand in the Visorak's direction. The scrub suddenly came to life, its thick branches wrapping around the spider creature and squeezing tight. It did not let go until the Visorak had collapsed, its only movement an occasional twitch. At that point, the plant went back to being just a plant."Sounds kind of morbid, but Thok obviously used the plants to crush the Visorak like a mere tin-can. He did technically 'strangle' the thing, but perhaps 'mangle' would have been a better word. This is true, BUT, the Visorak we're talking about were never on Metru Nui at the time of the Great Rescue. The ones found on Voya Nui were sent there prior to the Great Cataclysm, which occurred 1,001 years before the main story takes place, so they were sent there at least 1,002 years ago. The Visorak Vakama freed had absolutely no way of getting to Voya Nui, nor any reason to. If y'all think about it, the Visorak sent to Voya Nui (I'm going to call them Team Bob for the sake of my sanity. :| ) were there doing their job during the majority of the LoMN movie. During the scene where Teridax finally reveals himself to the Toa Metru and begins to absorb energy from Metru Nui, Voya Nui is meanwhile shooting up to the surface, whereby stranding everyone on it, including Team Bob. They probably spent the better part of the next few days, weeks, months, or even years, trying to get off the island, but eventually gave up and realized that they were now free of Sidorak's reign and could live however they wished, spending the rest of their lives hunting the poor Matoran and rahi of Voya Nui. The one Thok killed was likely doing just that and learned the hard way that Thok was far from easy prey. Also, if you think about it, Bob died never knowing that Sidorak was dead and the rest of the horde disbanded.

I assumed the "troll" was calling Makuta a "big machine" (maybe poking fun at the fact that he's just a walking suit-of-armor now, or just plain poking fun), but then I was only 10 at the time, ha ha.Not to spoil everyone's fun, but is it possible that the filmmakers wrote that line in reference to Makuta OR as a troll-line? ("Ha ha, Mata Nui isn't really a giant robot, but let's see how many viewers fall for this.") There are a lot of things in the movies that Greg and the fandom have dubbed non-canon, and I just can't help but wonder if that line was written without any knowledge whatsoever of what Mata Nui really was, simply because I don't think the story-team would have given that kind of hint away so early on, not with the danger of someone from the film-crew spilling the beans. You'd be surprised how many movie plot-points are spoiled before they even get out of pre-production, for example. :|I could be wrong! Just seems too good to be true, ha ha. Then again, we have the two "moons" in LoMN, so who knows. But then that could be passed off as being symbolic of Mata Nui having fallen deeper into his coma, at least during the first few years of Bionicle, aaaaand I'm going to shut up now. *slinks off* You seem to imply with this that Mata Nui's true nature wasn't planned from the beginning? You do realize Greg and Christian Faber have both confirmed that it was? It seems to me that he's implying that the filmmakers didn't have it planned from the beginning. The story team knew, obviously, but it doesn't seem too likely that they would divulge those details to the filmmakers when they weren't needed for the movie.Which makes that line a rather spooky coincidence, but I digress.^ Exactly what I was implying. Now this I didn't know (or at least didn't remember). I watched the Special-features once each when I was all of 10 and haven't touched them since. Donno why. *shrug* Anyhow, it's cool to know that they did work so closely with the story-team. I was under the assumption for the last ten years that that wasn't the case. Basically what I've been saying up 'til now is that I know that the entire story was planned from the beginning, but I thought that one line had nothing to do with "the big secret". Now that that's cleared up, all I can do is sit back and marvel at the story-team's craftiness, ha ha.

I didn't say it wasn't a deliberate hint-hint, just that it would be funny if it was a coincidence. They must have found a way to make sure no one on the film-crew let it slip that Mata Nui really was a giant robot, or it was such a subtle hint that not even the crew (save the writers) knew that it even meant anything. S'all I'm saying.

PLEASE look things up on BS01 before asking questions. As for the answer: two Makuta are still alive in the "main" universe. An alternate Teridax from another universe, and Miserix.Not everyone knows that BS01 even exists. And it's actually a good question, and one I didn't know the answer to myself until only a few months ago. To Boston100, DuplexBeGreat is correct -- only Miserix and Alt-Teridax still live. Every other Makuta who was still alive by the time Teridax took over the MU was destroyed by Teridax.

I assumed the "troll" was calling Makuta a "big machine" (maybe poking fun at the fact that he's just a walking suit-of-armor now, or just plain poking fun), but then I was only 10 at the time, ha ha.Not to spoil everyone's fun, but is it possible that the filmmakers wrote that line in reference to Makuta OR as a troll-line? ("Ha ha, Mata Nui isn't really a giant robot, but let's see how many viewers fall for this.") There are a lot of things in the movies that Greg and the fandom have dubbed non-canon, and I just can't help but wonder if that line was written without any knowledge whatsoever of what Mata Nui really was, simply because I don't think the story-team would have given that kind of hint away so early on, not with the danger of someone from the film-crew spilling the beans. You'd be surprised how many movie plot-points are spoiled before they even get out of pre-production, for example. :|I could be wrong! Just seems too good to be true, ha ha. Then again, we have the two "moons" in LoMN, so who knows. But then that could be passed off as being symbolic of Mata Nui having fallen deeper into his coma, at least during the first few years of Bionicle, aaaaand I'm going to shut up now. *slinks off*

That I do, good sir. The question is, how generalized are the "rules" of the Jutlin? Does its power work on anything the user is facing, or only things he/she can literally see?1) If the former, Antroz would have no problem using his Jutlin on his own, but anything like an Akaku would be useless to him because (I'm 95% sure) it only works through a being's functioning eyes.2) If the former and the latter, he could wear the mask himself and somehow use its power while simultaneously using Radiak's functioning eyes, or just have Radiak wear the mask and somehow tap in to its power while again using the Matoran's eyes. 3) If the latter only, same as #2, but this also means that Antroz would never be able to use his own mask again. He would have to tap into Radiak's Noble Jutlin, and the mask's powers would be halved unless he somehow tampered with it. (This doesn't mean Radiak cannot wear a Great Akaku, but again, Antroz would have to tamper with it.)The second and third seem over-the-top to me, but then Antroz and the others are Makuta, and most likely had both the power and the mental-prowess to accomplish #2 and 3 without being distracted by the process while in the midst of battle. *shrug*Something to ask Mr. Farshtey, perhaps?

BS01 Visorak page:

Oh golly, ten years already? Funny, I just watched it with my 8 and 10-year old sisters over a week ago (they wanted to know what the heck Bionicle is, ha ha). My goodness, the memories. While most other 10-year-old girls were off watching Barbie movies or whatever, I was reading comics and watching MoL, ha ha. ................. I feel so old now....