RobotProphet

Much like any other theory based on the Bible and works of literature like John Milton's work, shadows (or darkness) was there from the beginning. But it wasn't specifically created or crafted, it was and like an evolutionary form of light. The darkness that was the void was there as a nothingness, but the darkness from one's evil actions is from his twisted heart that rebelled or was hurt in some way. Main point: Shadow wasn't created, it was there the minute light got in front of something.

Bionicle had just started to become popular when I and my siblings discovered it. I was 12 and it was Summer of 2003. My whole teenage years were almost completely dedicated to Bionicle's story and characters. That was the big thing (we even made a home suspense/comedy movie about watching LOMN and running through the house away from Makuta ). But we bought the figures ALL the time--at every Christmas, birthday, Easter, and family gathering. We didn't get all of them, but 70+ figures still isn't considered enough to me, especially when it comes to important characters that are missing in the collection like the Toa Nuva. (Me at 22) we still play with them, and actually just got them out last week making poses and taking pictures. Bionicle will always be with me because it left a memorable mark on my life. I wouldn't be the writer or creative consultant I am today if it weren't for Bionicle

Oh my gosh!! It's weird that you all are saying you're like Vezon. What the heck! Honestly, though. At the time the Adventures book series was slowly being released I was in the midst of my teenage years, so I was a lot like Vakama Metru in a sense that I felt like I had to take on everyone's burdens by myself, but was always a member of the pity party because I couldn't take the pressure of being a leader when it is obvious in my life I'm meant to lead others. Currently... I'm a born leader, but I still don't like the idea of all that responsibility. I think I'm selfish, but everyone around me says I do all I can for others. I have a hard time moving forward, but I've come to terms with growing up--sort of. I'm anti-social half of the time but I've learned to take what comes my way and accept surprises like someone coming over unexpectedly. Help me out here guys, I'm not sure which character I match with the most, (but Onewa is my favorite

It's kind of a silly idea. It's why Transformers movies have humans. It's why Terminator had humans. Kids like robots, but adults need a human anchor to relate to. this post was rather assertive. Anyways, Adults don't need a human to connect to. The Toa are so adult like, i don't think that they would have a hard time connecting to any one of the six. Exactly! (I love you <(^o^)>)

Well, the series is already as dark as it can get. Whenever I read the books I get this foreboding feeling of hopelessness. But if it were geared toward an older audience it would only be darker in a sense that some kind of blood would be added, maybe they would bleed black protodermis or something. Also, I'd have to agree that there'd be some kind of romantic situations--that wouldn't be the primary center of attention, but you'd have the characters admitting their love for each other or fights over love and what not (which would mean they'd have to have more female characters instead of always having one girl on each team). The colors of the world would be toned down as well to send a message that the series is not a colorful adventure for younger children. It might also have more of a metallic feeling to it rather than an elemental feeling...if that makes sense. Well said! But Tahu and Gali would make a good twist on romance because opposites attract. And with the way he feels about her when she goes insane in Island of Doom. But they should build their offspring, sharing each others spiritual energy or something into the final product to give it life--because kids' series or not, Bionicle junk and stuff is wrong! Romance would be sharing a piece of each other's life energy, not sex scenes for the romantically declined who happen to be obsessed with Bionicle. I'm not talking to anyone inparticular, I'm just saying if rewriting the series is going to happen, NO SEX! They may be part organic but they don't need reproductive parts.

Seconded!! Onewa is an amazing character! Even though they were limited to story and time while making the films, they could of at least reveal more of those characters' personalities so the audience that was unfamiliar with them could get a taste of who they are. I love Onewa )!

It's kind of a silly idea. It's why Transformers movies have humans. It's why Terminator had humans. Kids like robots, but adults need a human anchor to relate to. Yes it is. The books were solely there to make you buy Bionicles. Greg did work hard on it, true, and he did a darn good job at it. But you're trying to claim that these books are better than anything else you've ever read. That's makes me think you really haven't read all that much or you just love Bionicle a little too much. I know that it was made to sell the toys. I'm just saying that it's such a good story with such great characters that it deserves more than that. And I don't think adults need a human anchor to relate when it comes to a great story. That's the beauty of analyzing: Recognizing something for what it's supposed to represent, seeing human context in characters that aren't human, and understanding how you can relate to those non-human characters and their emotions. It's kind of a silly idea. It's why Transformers movies have humans. It's why Terminator had humans. Kids like robots, but adults need a human anchor to relate to. Well that depends. I mean the writing is nothing special, but the story is really original and has a lot "meat". Its one of my favorite fictional universes thats for sure Exactly, Commander Ceecee.

Here's the deal: I'm the only one I know not on the internet who loves Bionicle. So when friends, classmates, whoever asks the question, "What's your favorite book?" I have a real hard time explaining that I love Bionicle more than anything I've ever read, and why I love it. I actually love it because it's the only book series I know that is a universe about just robots with serious emotions--no humans. That's one reason why it's awesome. But I love literature, film analysis, and literary analysis as well. Being in the middle of my busy life, I don't have the time to score through great works of literature, so here's my question: What works of literature could you compare with the Bionicle books and movies? Anything. Characters, events, identity crises, emotions, locations of Bionicle that can be compared to literature. We, as fans, already know that Bionicle is worth our passion, but this would give people who see the word LEGO on the covers proof that Bionicle is not just a 12-year-olds' ambition to buy toys. Greg worked too hard for it to be just that.

Gosh, Bionicle is riddled with sadness and hopeless tear-enducing moments. Yes, the death scenes are incredibly sad and all of them get to me, but I think the saddest Bionicle moment would have to be in Legends #2: Dark Destiny--the book not the comic. Jaller's rallied up five of the bravest matoran to go save the Toa Nuva and Takanuva came along with them. As we all know, Takanuva and Jaller have been best friends since forever, and share a strong bond. They love each other as blood-brothers with Jaller even dying for Takanuva when he was still a matoran. Jaller and the five matoran accidentally pass through an invisible wall that keeps matoran in and Toa out. After some heartfelt arguing, Jaller insists that they move on and the toa of light go back to Metru Nui. Takanuva reaches forward to touch Jaller, but the wall stops him. He gets choked up. Jaller tries to lighten the mood by joking and Takanuva says, "...You died once for me...don't die again..." Jaller tries to smile but has to look away from his best friend because he can't control his emotions. T0T!! It's so sad! I can't believe the emotion going through this scene! It ends with Takanuva calling to Jaller and saying, "...You would make a great toa." This seperation--realization that they will never see each other again, to me, is sadder than any death scene.

The Piraka are brutal, but other than Zaktaan, the other five are dense and clueless. Even Zaktaan doesn't have the bigger picture of everything and what becomes of them seemed like kind of a way to get rid of them before the series moved on. I'd have to read the books again, but off the top of my head I think Sidorahk would be #5 in my top 5 because of how evil and intimidating he is in the books between numbers 7-9. Roodaka would make #4 because she's so sexy and insane--plus Kathleen Barr makes a wicked evil laugh in the Web of Shadows movie. #3 would be Makuta Krika. At first he's evil, but then he turns around and confesses how much he regrets being evil. Producing a good reason for the reader to have sympathy for the character is a great way to get into your heart. #2 I'd say is Makuta Teridax. Sure he's not that intimidating in the films, but he's got a great back story and is awesome in the body of Maxilos. I'm not sure who would be my #1 best Bionicle villain, but I'll know when I read the books again.

Great analysis! It's interesting you say that because I don't think they stressed how the other toa were effected by their Hordika sides enough. It always bothered me that they never explained the stories from the books in between the movies. In the books, Matau's feelings for Nokama are clear: He likes her and would do anything to keep her safe. But time and time again, because Vakama is always doubting himself and his place as leader, he's putting his fellow Toa in danger. No spoilers for those who haven't read the books, but there is a severe incident in book #6 (Maze of Shadows) that really reveals Matau's feelings for Nokama because of what happens to her. When Vakama is confronted with the serious dilemma, he ignores the well being of Nokama, and concentrates on the mission. This is one of the cases that rubs off on, not only Matau, but Onewa as well, who threatens to kill Vakama several times. As for Matua's pessimism, it is sad that he's pushed to the limit and beyond. Part of it is because of the Hordika inside of him, but mostly it's because of Vakama's identity crisis. But that's what makes the story all the more beautiful and touching when Matau solely makes it his personal mission to correct Vakama's path and save him because they're still brothers no matter what happens. How can anyone say these stories are "just for kids?"

I don't think I can ever "move on" from Bionicle. I saw Hero Factory, and it was cool and interesting, but it wasn't as...vivid or rich as the characters and stories that came from the Bionicle universe. RIght now, I'm ignoring the fact that Bionicle came out at the beginning of my teenage years, and that I still have a very strong emotional and literary connection to the characters and stories. I'm taking a step back and stating that if you look at these strong characters and the world they live in on their own, it would be hard not to like them. Wholly, it's a story about light versus shadow, good versus evil. For a book and movie series that supposed to be for boys ages 8-12, it carries some pretty dark overtones that reflect morals of leadership, sacrifice, friendship, and personality crises--not to mention the several cases of death and ever present aura of hopelessness. In short, yes, I still adore Bionicle and don't think I can replace it.

Yes, but only because they showed a Bohrok. If they had taken it out altogether, then it would be fine. Mask of Light introduced me to Bionicle, as I'm sure it did to many others, and I remember the first time I watched that part I was so confused. I didn't know why they were scared, or what the heck a Bohrok a was. Because the filmmakers put it in there, Bio-newcomers definitely get confused and ask questions, (of course questions get people interested and interest show money for the LEGO company). It would have been cool if there were some Bohrok that were still wandering the island and Lewa, or somebody would have to save Jaller and Takua from them instead of from a bear. But then there'd be the need for an additional 3 minutes of explanation and that cost money in the eyes of a production company. Having also read the novelizations of the movies, I agree with this 100%. MoL had other scenes that were cut as well, ones that would really have added to the story. For example, Jaller jumping on the Ash Bear seems just ridiculous in the movie, while the movie explains why Jaller actually did what he did and made him seem more than just some immature child with no idea how to fight (although he's the captain of the guard!) And the Sidorak thing is true as well. Although Roodaka didn't hide at any phase, I think. Agreed as well about Jaller being macho Captain of the Guard. Just makes me all the more upset how they didn't make another trilogy about the Legends series and Jaller becoming toa. (You're right about Roodaka hiding. I checked).

One thing that always bothered me was in The Mask of Light. Miramax always did pretty good with converting the books into movies because the final product was basically word for word of the novels. However, even with these movies, they left some things out that would have made the films as emotionally dramatic as the books. They took out almost a whole chapter in the Mask of Light film that was in the book. The chapter was called "Buried Alive" and it explained why Gali said, "Brothers, we thought we lost you," to Pohatu and Onua right before the Rakshi fight and Jaller's death scene. The two toa tried to reach the other toa when the cavern collapsed. Gali and the others watch as the cavern crushes Pohatu and Onua with Gali even attempting to jump into the danger to save them but is stopped by Kopaka. Not the most emotional scene in the book series, but would have made the film all the more rich in a sense that non-Bionicle fans could understand how serious these stories really are. Also, in Web of Shadows, the character of Sidorahk was toned down immensely! In the book, he is powerful and truly evil--Roodaka is even scared of him mentioning several times that she would not directly cross his path. When her plot to kill him takes place, she hides right before Keetongu revives so Sidorahk doesn't personally kill her before he dies. For the reason of comedy relief in one of the darkest stories in the series, they softened a very menacing and frightening character that would have made the "top ten coolest villains list" if he hadn't been recreated by screen writers. The intruding awkward comedic blurbs and details in this Bionicle film ruined the entire atmosphere of this sinister story. Other than that, I think the voice-acting was superb with some of the most experienced voice actors (don't even get me started on Scott Mcneil--I'm drooling already).