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Official Rare & Promotional Collectibles Topic
NateMakesMOCs replied to Letagi's topic in Buy/Sell/Trade
I believe it was the user KayTee that had it, so you are correct. I can speak from a first hand account (having gotten one myself from the seller) that there were 10 for sale from the Bricklink store run by BGP, who happened to also post on BZPower asking about the Yellow Hunas they had acquired before listing them. You can see the 10 listed in the images BGP took of them along with other items they acquired from that lot in/near Denmark, including known Galidor prototypes they had for sale in their store, and known 2001 Matoran prototype heads, arms, and feet. The 10 listed by BGP are the prototype style mold, as noted by ShadowOnua when they compared one against a prototype Orange Huna that they owned (see the brickshelf gallery shared in their post) and a regular Orange Huna. So yeah, you are correct about there only being 11 out there, 10 from BGP and the one KayTee acquired. I was not aware that the main post of this said otherwise, but I've heard the Pick a Brick story from others too (don't have any links to corroborate this, sorry). Seems the Tanoka and Black Kanoka both were Pick a Brick items in Billund for a time. Yeah I think this is just over site due to more recent developments. Letagi is one person who has a life, they can't be chained to a desk updating this topic every time some new weird fact about odd collectibles comes up. I have a two Translucent Dark Blue Kaukau that both came from a lot of sealed European Mask Packs, the ones that could have misprints. Considering the lot of those that I bought also included some packs with European Misprints, I think it's safe to assume that they were probably using the old mold at one point when filling the earlier mask packs. The bubble cheek style is also seen on the Prototype Kaukau show as an example in this topic, and mentioned by Flintsmith in this topic. Another user was asking about them fairly recently, but there is limited information about them in general. From my understanding, the Light Blue, Yellow, Green, Red, and Dark Blue Kaukau can all have the Bubble Cheek variant per The Archivist's findings in their guide topic (they had found evidence of the first 4, I provided links to some previously linked topics with the Dark Blue variant). My stance on these is with some of the others who have already said something in this topic; this is just due to the nature of dye in the molding process, and as you speculated could be intentional or not. Maybe the Lego group decided they didn't need as much dye as they thought when printing these and adjusted accordingly, or maybe the opposite. Maybe the two different dye amounts are due to differences in machine calibration at different factories that were making the product. We'll probably never know, but I don't think there's really anything to be said about it all. The silver ones I believe due have some variance from what I've seen in my own collection, but due to the darker dye color it can be a lot more subtle and I have yet to find a Silver Kaukau that mimics the translucent effect of a low dye Gold Kaukau. I have seen dye variability with all the Gold Kanohi by the way, so I don't think it was intentional to make the Kaukau more translucent, but I don't think we have enough evidence to reallyt prop up either take on the whole affair. Great points and discussion from everyone, it's wonderful to see this thread filled with replies right now! -
Looks like it sold, it was in The Bionicle Marketplace.
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Pretty much everything Aiden said. Another thing I would do is set up alerts on Bricklink, ebay, and any other market places they may pop up. Sometimes stuff pops up overpriced, and other times things pop up for decent amounts. Scouring lots from European countries where Lego factories were at the time is another thing people have done, but that's a lot easier when you live in that part of the world. Like Aiden said, don't feel ashamed to reach out to people, especially if they're actively selling. You're gonna also have to be willing to spend some money in these cases. With the collecting market the way it is, along with all the information on the internet, a lot of people are more informed these days one what they have. Making a fair offer is sometimes all you can do. The Official Rare & Promotional Collectibles topic has some decent info on prices that have been documented in the past, but I believe a lot of the info is a couple years dated at this point. Search through some of the more recent posts in the topic though and you'll find some info on more recent prices. Side note, I believe a White Huna is up for sale on Facebook, and a Brown Komau has been sitting on Bricklink for a while at a price that's far above what others have paid for recently. Could be your chance to reach out and make an offer!
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I'm in agreement with @Aiden, a document like this gets dated pretty fast. However, it is nice to see all the info compiled in one place like this and as you mentioned, it's a good starting guide for sure. Couple ideas/corrections: To avoid the guide being dated by prices, I would embed a Bricklink link to the price history page (this one or this one, dealer's choice) into each of the "suggested prices" below each collectible for all the regular and moderately rare items It looks like the PDF mask tables are images so it probably isn't as easy to embed the links as I'm suggesting, but by doing this and maybe having a "Prices Last Updated XX/YY/ZZZZ" note on the front page to communicate the last time it was edited would help make the document "live" more Regarding the Bubble Cheek Kaukau, they also exist in Trans-Dark Blue, there's a topic with one right here on the site for confirmation along with another comment on them in the Official Rare & Promotional Collectibles Topic Small typo Regarding the de-chromed Light Gray Hau, it's listed as Pearl Gray Red Rurus were also found in this clock set in certain regions There are no documented Sand Blue Kakamas, they've all been Medium Blue, think you've had a typo here Also, there have been at least 3 instances documented, though there could be up to 5 Reddit user Aarhg found 2 and sold one off (I only know about this because I was a potential buyer during the auction back in 2022, though I think there's some evidence of this auction happening on the r/Bioniclelego discord) and also has a picture of the one they initially kept that lines up with the white background style you've used for most collectibles in case you wanna use it, they sold this one later it seems Reddit user NiMaGre's friend found one about a month earlier, I would assume this is different from the two found by Aarhg Two have been sold on Facebook by the same seller, whom I believe is not Aarhg based on his own posts in the r/Bioniclelego discord server A Red Rau was found by this person and seems to be real Hope some of this is helpful!
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The lighting is weird and messing with it for sure, but in the first one out of the bag it looks to have some sparkles in it along with some markings that only show up on the Copper one, specifically the lines from the eyes to the top and the one line that is at the top of the right side vent. Those marks appear in all the flip/flop colors like gold, silver, and copper from early Bionicle, while the Brown Komau just has a solid color without those lines. Also, those bags look a lot like the bags that random Kanohi would appear in when found in Nesquik cereal in Europe when that promo was running in the the early years.
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MNOG 2: Kaukaus or Komaus?
NateMakesMOCs replied to That Matoran with a Vahi's topic in Bionicle Discussion
I'm split. The Kaukau feel right since it's what we've seen them wearing for so long. Feels kind of like the Hafu/Taipu mask situation in some ways, but with less important characters. However, I do feel conflicted on Nuri specifically, since a matoran in the Bohrok-Kal animation "Theft of Fire" matching the new Nuri appears in it. These animations came out before MNOGII, and a lot of the matoran from them later appeared in the MNOGII (i.e. Damek, Kalama, etc.), so the Nuri with a Komau from the web animations appearing again with the Komau in MNOGII would make more sense than the Kaukau. So yeah, I guess I'm down for the change to Nuri, but I'm less convinced on Kivi. He does wear a Komau in his Metru-Nui promo CD iteration though, which is less convincing since I don't think it was made by Templar and a couple other matoran in those change masks from their MNOG/MNOGII appearances. -
Like Nato said, just keep reporting the posts. It will stop eventually when a number of the bot accounts are banned, but the best thing to do is to not engage and report the posts. Remember, topics can be set up to send email notifications to the account owner whenever someone replies to a topic, so if you engage in replying to the spam topics, you could be creating false "interaction" counts that the bot presumes is people wanting to buy/learn more about the product. This in turn might be encouraging the creation of more spam topics/accounts since the bot program thinks engagement is happening. Don't reply to these topics, just report them and move on. As others mentioned, it'll clear itself up in a few days probably.
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Not sure really what you have without pictures, but based on the descriptions it sounds like mostly gear. Bricklink has a gear section in their catalogue, but just by searching Bionicle Key Chain I was able to find a decent amount of things matching your descriptions. If you check the price guide on items that have had recent sales you can see sale data of what stuff was sold for in the last 6 months, might give you an idea of what price people are willing to pay.
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Wow I remember reading about the claims regarding this way back when, crazy to finally see photos of it! Makes you wonder how many people with no interest in Bionicle or Lego even may have had their hands on a Brown Komau at one point. Wish the image was clearer to make out the text on the card behind the mask, can only make out "wit__ Toys" myself. There were claims that they both came together in said pack, but looks like it may have only been one or the other.
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Question about possible replicas of SSKK
NateMakesMOCs replied to Cygnus's topic in Bionicle Discussion
They kind of look like VMKK, which were given out to Proto-Squad members. They were hard gray plastic Krana-Kal that had a vaccum metal coating applied to them, the ones that never got coated were handed out as the GPKK. My guess it's they're more than likely that, but maybe someone who has more experience ID-ing them can weigh in. You can check the official promotional and rare collectibles topic for more info, posting in there may get some traction too. -
The second I read the not quite, I immediately thought "They have different neck heights actually don't they!" Can't believe I forgot about that part, but it's been ages since I've built them haha. Yeah it's neat how with such a limited number of parts we got 6 completely unique builds!
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Official Rare & Promotional Collectibles Topic
NateMakesMOCs replied to Letagi's topic in Buy/Sell/Trade
I was really confused on how you knew about that since I usually keep my collection pretty private, but then remembered my Brickshelf handle is the same as this one, oops. But yeah the Medium Blue Kakama's final price is public knowledge, what the seller has listed is the correct amount. Wish it wasn't, I was pretty good about not using my Lego budget this year for anything other than the GWP until that auction. I'm out of the game for a while now. But yeah @Owls, I would agree with @David Skyroller on pretty much all points regarding the pieces. While what you have is mostly one of a kind, I think we may be hitting the peak of what people are willing to pay for a piece of plastic these days. If you're just looking for offers it will probably end up in the $2500 - $4000 range. I wish the pricing @Letagi mentioned was still a feasible amount, but it seems that isn't the case these days. If you want to try your luck with an auction you can too, but there's less power in vetting who you're selling to that way so you might just end up getting it into the hands of someone trying to flip it (if you care about that, that is). With the auction route I feel you'll still end up on the higher end of the prices mentioned here for sure, but it might take longer and you'll have to drum up the interest. As for the genuineness of the parts, I remember you mentioning trying to get some Lego designer's feedback on them (I think it was Prince Galidor), so if you have proof of that from them it'll gain you a lot more credibility. -
Yeah, hence the added context I included in the post about the seller being a bit ridiculous with their asking prices and their info on the rarity of their items. I don't know what the last one sold for, but they're nowhere near what Bionicle Universe is asking. I'm pretty sure he's had it listed for a while at that insane price, so you can try direct messaging him with an offer. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't go down though. Also, someone once did a calculation of how much the gold would cost alone for the piece, so if you can dig up that number and adjust for inflation of gold since, you probably can build a good case for a more reasonable asking price when you find someone willing to hear your offer. Good luck!
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Yeah I was a bit confused when I saw the options, every single 2001 Turaga has a unique build. Whenua, Vakama, and Matau all have the same leg and arm length, but varying neck positions. Nokama is identical to Vakama with the exception of her longer arms, while Nuju is identical to Nokama but with longer legs due to the single bushings added in. Onewa has the double bushings like you mentioned, but otherwise is identical to Vakama. I like them all for the variety, don't think I actually have a specific one that's my favorite.
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Bionicle Universe has one listed for sale on his Bricklink store. Price is a a bit more than steep, so I would message them and try to get a more reasonable offer in. Not sure how plugged into the community you are, but the seller has kind of developed a negative and questionable reputation over the years due to the prices and claims they make about certain rare pieces, so you may want to really ensure the authenticity of the piece. It looks real from a glance, but just make sure you do your research to ensure it's legit. Mask Collector should still own one, you can try reaching out to him if you want to learn about what to look for to ensure authenticity.
