Mr. Anon1 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 As we all know, the Matoran universe is very diverse with all kinds of species living in the many islands across the Great Spirit Robot. However, the question remains that, if the Matoran are the only important beings, with a select few other entities created by the Great Beings to assist them, why are there so many life forms in the universe? Neither the Great Beings nor Mata Nui really had any need for the Skakdi or Vortix, for example. But we do know one species directly created by Mata Nui: the Makuta. Their original purpose is kind of vague, all we really know is that the Great Beings intended for the Makuta species to act as a symbolic "brother" to Mata Nui. Their main purpose that we have been given though, is to create Rahi. I propose that all the various species across the universe are descended from Rahi created by Makuta. This explains the huge diversity is species in the Great Spirit Robot. Opinions of this theory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxumo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 For some odd reason i don't think it is possible for the whole rahi thing since almost all rahi were created by the makuta so it's highly unlikely. also for some odd reason i think this may be a topic that's already been created but i'm not for sure. Banner made by Onaku BZPRPG CHARACTERS Syvra-Tivanu If you interact with one of my characters and I don't respond or acknowledge the interaction within a day, send me a PM. Odds are I missed or did not see the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Anon1 Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 I think you misread my post. I acknowledged that all the Rahi were created by the Makuta, and I was proposing that most of the civilizations in the Matoran Universe (Skakdi, Vortix, Steltian, etc) all descend from Rahi created by the Makuta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erebus Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 There is no proper evolution in the BIONICLE Universe, at least in the Matoran Universe. Skakdi, Vortixx, and the other non-Rahi species were created either by Mata Nui or the Great Beings. It would be retconning otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxumo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I think you misread my post. I acknowledged that all the Rahi were created by the Makuta, and I was proposing that most of the civilizations in the Matoran Universe (Skakdi, Vortix, Steltian, etc) all descend from Rahi created by the Makuta.I understand that but i highly doubt they descended from rahi since most every thing in the matoran universe was built. and also i think it was mata-nui who created them because first off if you look at the reason the matoran were made was to keep mata-nui running by doing thier work so think of what the vortixx do they also create and in a way they are profiting the matoran with their creations ( mostly weapons) so it's like a mutual relationship since the matoran can't do everything. It's more so a " we give you something and we get something in return " type thing all the species benefit from each other thus creating a complex network which helps mata-nui function. and whos to say that mata-nui did not come up with this idea when he observed other planets. it's simply that every one benefits from the others existence. Banner made by Onaku BZPRPG CHARACTERS Syvra-Tivanu If you interact with one of my characters and I don't respond or acknowledge the interaction within a day, send me a PM. Odds are I missed or did not see the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Anon1 Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 I think you misread my post. I acknowledged that all the Rahi were created by the Makuta, and I was proposing that most of the civilizations in the Matoran Universe (Skakdi, Vortix, Steltian, etc) all descend from Rahi created by the Makuta.I understand that but i highly doubt they descended from rahi since most every thing in the matoran universe was built. and also i think it was mata-nui who created them because first off if you look at the reason the matoran were made was to keep mata-nui running by doing thier work so think of what the vortixx do they also create and in a way they are profiting the matoran with their creations ( mostly weapons) so it's like a mutual relationship since the matoran can't do everything. It's more so a " we give you something and we get something in return " type thing all the species benefit from each other thus creating a complex network which helps mata-nui function. and whos to say that mata-nui did not come up with this idea when he observed other planets. it's simply that every one benefits from the others existence.But the problem is that the Matoran were only intended as workers, and the Great Beings allowed for Toa to be there to defend them, so they wouldn't really need materials. That also does not explain the huge variety in Dark Hunter races, most of which don't seem to have a specific use towards Mata Nui or the Matoran. In addition Mata Nui's primary will was towards the Matoran, so he created the Makuta to aid them and create any further things needed.@Erebus: In that case, perhaps many of the races are "technically" rahi (in other words direct creations of the Brotherhood) but are just very intelligent? The line between what constitutes as a "Rahi" and a "sapient race" is very thin (hence Krakha and Keetongu). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erebus Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Not really; Rahi can also be defined as wildlife, which Krahka and Keetongu are of.The Vortixx, Skakdi, etc. are not wildlife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I propose that all the various species across the universe are descended from Rahi created by Makuta. This explains the huge diversity is species in the Great Spirit Robot. Opinions of this theory?The idea of Matoran, Vortixx, etc. evolving from rahi is a nice idea, but doesn't hold up.First of all, the great beings created the Matoran and other inhabitants of the MU at the beginning of the existence of the MU as nanotech meant to maintain Mata Nui. Also, Matoran unknowingly BUILT Mata Nui, so they existed before Mata Nui. Therefore Matoran cannot be "decended" from a creation of a being they helped build a body for.Second, no species in the MU reproduces, making evolution impossible.Nice idea though. Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Anon1 Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 I did not say that Matoran were descended from Rahi. I just said all other species not directly created by the Great Beings. As for evolution, maybe it could be a similar type of "evolution" to the way the Makuta adapt? @Erebus, my point was that not everything created by the Brotherhood eventually became wildlife. For example, the Skakdi may have been intended as Rahi, but ended up as sapient beings (this would explain the sheer diversity in many races; all of them originated as part of a random process involving energized protodermis). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erebus Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) Again, it's already confirmed that the Great Beings and Mata Nui created these various races like the Matoran, Skakdi, etc. Each race had its role in the universe. The Brotherhood of Makuta had no role in creating these races. Edited November 5, 2011 by Erebus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Anon1 Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 I understand Matoran, but has it been confirmed that the Great Beings created "minor" races like Skakdi, Vortix, etc? Biosector says nothing about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erebus Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Mata Nui created the Skakdi, Vortixx, etc. Check the individual pages on BS01; the first sentence for each page states that Mata Nui created them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta Matata Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 The Zyglak were called the Great Beings' folly, weren't they? That would prove that the Zyglak were created by the GB, also opening up the possibility that the Skakdi and Vortixx could have been created by the GBs also. Three on Three - Memoirs of the Dead - Winner!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Anon1 Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 I guess you guys win here. Still, one wonders why the Makuta were made so powerful, if their purpose was quite "minor", since they only make Rahi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erebus Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Some Rahi turned out to be powerful, so the powers that the Makuta had were supposed to be used to contain and control them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akuna Toa of Sonics Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 (edited) Matoran were created separately from rahi, so that means they couldn't have evolved from them.As for other species, I don't know. Edited November 6, 2011 by Akuna Toa of Sonics Does anyone want to play the Master Chief Collection with me? I'm trying to get a team going for ranked. PM for GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorek Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 A popular, if slightly misguided way of looking at things is that people like to envision Mata Nui as a standard organism; every creature has a role to play (and here people equate the Matoran to blood cells, that kind of thing), even if it isn't readily apparent. We may have not necessarily seen the true purpose of the diversity in species (at least, not the whole picture) but that doesn't mean it's not there. Each race has already been confirmed to have been created by Mata Nui (except for the noted exceptions), so each has some sort of "destiny" within the story. BS01's Ambassador (Like us, Follow us) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Six Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Theory disproved.Thread closed. Bio of a BZP Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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