CeeCee Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I was thinking about this earlier. You know what would be a really clever plot ending?This would have to have been done really well, and to be honest, if it was planned, it would had to have been planned from the very start of the story.But: Everything the Makuta was doing was good, and everything Mata Nui was doing was evil. There would have to be some moments where you would look back and be "Oh my dog, how did i never see this?".Every one on Mata Nui's side would not have been doing this willingly. They were willingly for-filling their destiny, but they didnt know the real reason. When the Toa / Matoran / Turaga find out, they would be conflicted over their loyalty to Mata-Nui, but their moral boundaries.Not sure if I have explained this well enough, but if I haven't or your confused, please ask me.How would you react to this, if it was done cleverly. Quote Signature Guidelines: Avatar and signature total file size may not exceed 250 KB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSkeletonMan939 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 That's exactly how I'd react. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iron Toa Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I don't think this could be done. If you think of all the things the Makuta (singular or plural) did and everything Mata Nui did... well, I don't feel like listing all of the Makuta's evil deeds now, but just think about the Battle of Bara Magna. Teridax was trying to enslave, and when that failed, destroy Bara Magna. Mata Nui and his allies were fighting to save it. Now, even if the Agori and Glatorian were revealed to somehow be an orc-like always-evil race (which they clearly aren't), I could still imagine no justification for destroying their entire planet. So it would be very hard to convince me that Teridax was a good guy.Mata Nui was neglectful of the beings within him, but this cost him. He learned his lesson, atoned, and ended up risking his life for them as well as people he just met. Sounds like a good guy to me. Quote My BlogLatest Update: RPG: Character Creation and StatsMy Story CollectionStory Currently in Progress:End of Yrenta (Review Topic) (Currently at 55 Chapters)I realize I haven't updated my stories or posted much for quite a while. I will get back it it sometime, and I am still checking the site daily for any interesting topics.Brickshelf Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 It's been floated many times on here, for as long as I can remember, probably before I joined.Bottom line is, it's impossible since Greg has confirmed it false; Makuta is evil and Mata Nui is good. It could be a fun fanfic twist though (and it's probably been done ).That said, Mata Nui had character flaws, so he wasn't perfect. And Makuta probably wasn't 100% evil. Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onionfarb Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 That would be really cool if it was done. But, it would have had to be planned, as you say, and Makuta couldn't have been so entirely power-hungry, and Mata Nui couldn't have been so outlandishly good. Quote I miss BIONICLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Axis Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I never really though about it before, but I doubt that Mata Nui is 100% good and Makuta is 100% evil.Each of their characters have flaws. Quote Not luck. It's what you do that makes you a hero.- Toa Kopaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shockwave~ Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I really don't think that would work very well. as someone who is working on a story, something becomes apparent all too quickly, while the characters in the story can have any morals, and have themselves convinced they are on whatever side they believe themselves to be on, there is a clear set of morals to a "hero and a "villain". sometimes, Villains like to think they are the hero, and while maybe there goals at times seem to be heroic, the way they play them out is where there colors show.you seem to be under the assumption that it is purely the goals that dictate morality, and that my friend, is only part of the story. Quote 3DS Freind Code: 1693-0634-1082 Name: Joey I also have Mario Kart 7, Animal Crossing: New Leaf, Pokemon Y and Kid Icarus: Uprising PM me to add me. Steam profile Click here for the BZP Destiny Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disciple Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Someone posted a story like this back in 2003. If I remember correctly, it ended with Lewa, Onua and Pohatu being the only three Toa to survive the final battle with Makuta. They succeed in awakening Mata Nui, and "in a voice like tinkling bells," the Great Spirit declares that everything is right again, and the Matoran can go back to their eternal labor of building war machines used to conquer the universe. Mata Nui then kills the three remaining Toa.I remember it only because it creeped me out back when I read it as a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Nui Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 It would be very awkward if Mata Nui was evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta Matata Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 That would have been the weirdest thing. Quote Three on Three - Memoirs of the Dead - Winner!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podu Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 That would be really cool if it was done. But, it would have had to be planned, as you say, and Makuta couldn't have been so entirely power-hungry, and Mata Nui couldn't have been so outlandishly good.Well, if you look it this way, Makuta was just fulfilling his destiny, while Mata Nui was almost completely ignorant of his people's status. Quote 99.9% of BIONICLE fans forgot about Podu. If you happen to be the 0.1% that still remember him, copy and paste this into your sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extractor Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I would not have liked this, for a few reasons. As I believe in respecting other's opinions, I'll (try) to answer in the most un-bias way! -Bionicle wasn't meant to be some sort of mystery where you can look back and say: "Oh my gerd... really?!?" There are a lot more plot-twists available to this.-The main goal of Bionicle was for Makuta to die and Mata-Nui to win. If Makuta was killed, and then Mata-Nui revealed that he was evil, won't this just make for a bad story ending? I mean, we all like a happy ending! Quote Bionicle will always be alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeCee Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 I would not have liked this, for a few reasons. As I believe in respecting other's opinions, I'll (try) to answer in the most un-bias way! -Bionicle wasn't meant to be some sort of mystery where you can look back and say: "Oh my gerd... really?!?" There are a lot more plot-twists available to this.-The main goal of Bionicle was for Makuta to die and Mata-Nui to win. If Makuta was killed, and then Mata-Nui revealed that he was evil, won't this just make for a bad story ending? I mean, we all like a happy ending!Who's saying it wouldnt be a happy ending? Quote Signature Guidelines: Avatar and signature total file size may not exceed 250 KB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axonn's Fury Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I've thought about this before... But honestly, due to the actions Teridax performed, I don't see how it would happen. -Enslaving Matoran-Putting them to sleep in Metru Nui-Killing-etc.However if you're saying what if the story was written in such a way that would give us all a "What..." kind of reaction, that would be interesteing. Awkward... Albeit interesting. It would be quite the shock to find out Mata Nui was the ultimate evil lol. - Taka Quote BZPChat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
light Laser Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) I think it would be funny it teaches you to have an opened mind, and to look at things from a different perspective, But I do think that some things might have to have been different (which I think agrees with what you said Alterego). Edited October 25, 2012 by light Laser Quote If wise man uses words, and strong man hits things, a wise strong man hits words.Wait that doesn't seem right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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