Also you all imply I use my ego to put other members down.

Incorrect. I myself (and I can only speak for myself as I am an interloper ) imply that your work ethics can use some work. That is a far broader scale than just nailing ego.

Saying that I am awesome means my work ethics need work.

Ok that is just plain ridiculous.

-Omi

This is where I draw the line and say no to your advice, only because you say you "specialize" in it. Show me some credentials for that

Grr. I made typos. I hate typos. Grr.

 

Anyways, my credentials are not in paper, plastic, or LCD screen. The fact that I specialize in it is obvious; I am a philosopher on the subject. Plus, I am almost always in a debate with someone (mostly my dad, someone who is very hard to deal with), am one of the most introspective people you can find, and most of all lose well. My creds are in the form of experience and imbedded in my head, visible to anyone with an open mind.

 

I am EW. What are you?

 

Again with the staff comparison and contrast. Bonesiii is not me, and I am not him. He has his own methods, and I have mine. Both are questionable by everyone. So what I am saying is, bonesiii does/did/can do things that would be "approved" by either staff or member (no offense bones). However whatever reasons I would hold I would only say to him personally.

Asa amod, you may exel, but at the same time, you must realize that neither you nor bonsy have perfect work ethics (no offence, bones). If he can do things that are questionable, then so can you. We try to point it out to you, and you turn to your badge. This is something even worse: indulgence.

 

Now allow me to get something clear: I do think you are a cool guy. I honestly do. Why else would you be in one of my dreams? Nevertheless, there are things I disagree with. In fact, much of the time I disagree with people, but I still know when and how to lose. I turn not to ego, although I do have a reasonable amout of it. But notice that I go bthrough many things that are unorthodox, my philosophies included. I must confess that the main reason why I am entering this discussion is because I see flaws in your styles, things that difer from my philosophies. But allow me to state that to date, my philosophies have not been proven wrong. In fact, they have changed people's attitudes alot, and there are several that I can name that had this change (although I would prefer not naming anyone). Unless my philosophies are proven wrong, I cannot admit failure as they remain as facts, not theories.

 

I am not asking you. I am asking them. You are not them.

Good point, but Desu is one of them. Can you deny that? It is evident that Desu is pointing things out that would apply to many other members.

 

Also you all imply I use my ego to put other members down.

Incorrect. I myself (and I can only speak for myself as I am an interloper ) imply that your work ethics can use some work. That is a far broader scale than just nailing ego.

 

Perhaps you have forgotten the fundamental part of Respectism? I phrased this in many ways, but it still stands true: staff respects member for what he can be and member respects staff for what he is.

 

This has never been disproven, ever. As of yet, not one person could find flaw in this single most important part. Apply it in many ways, too. But notice that it does not say "member respects staff for what he does", as that would destroy the entire philosophy. Also note the difference betwix respect and awesomify (is that even a word? ). There is a profound difference.

 

I remain neuteral in this discussion and am in it mainly for my own purposes. I am neither Desu's ally nor Omi's ally. I am an interloper using his introspect. So please, do not take me as your enemy in this discussion.

 

 

Oh, and Ranna, we are not really fighting; I am just playing hard.

 

~EW~

 

~EW~

A. If you're an expert, be sure to check your spelling, it makes you look smarter/more credible.

B. Omi's work ethic is just fine. If it wasn't,I'm sure he would've been asked to step down by now.

C. In that last sentence, you changed from 'we' to 'I'. Therefore,you do't know if others are fighting, you merely stated that you weren't ~_o

D. Omi -is- awesome.

I cannot find the spellchecker here, plus my built-in one seems to have certain... problems...

My opinions are exactly mine-- I pointed at my philosophies and not anyone when I made my comment about the work ethic. If others asked him to step down, that is not my area. Plus, thay could do it under different terms than I make my statements, so thus I see not how what you sais applies to me.

I know others are discussing; I made it clear I was not fighting. I was gesturing to myself-- the only person I can speak for, as I am only myself.

Did I deny that?

Saying that I am awesome means my work ethics need work.

 

Ok that is just plain ridiculous.

I never said that, now, did I? One can be awesome in a person and have things to advance in with ethics. They are totally different disciplines. Take King Charles the First of England during the Cromwell Revolt. He was not that great a ruler at all, but as a family man and a fatrher, he was unparalelled.

As it seems nobody is listening closely enough, I shall formally leave this conversation unless needed.

~EW~

It's funny how you try to change other people's onpinions, but stick true to yours. Maybe just try accepting there are some things some people believe that you disagree with, but that doesn't mean you are right. It doesn't mean they're right, either, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and everyone should stop trying to change other people's opinions. To each his own.

I don't recall changing opinions around, and if I did they aren't swayed. I am just asking a question that would be nice if answered.

 

-Omi

The rap topic? If you deny all criticism, then no one will be able to explain to you their reasons they might not like you. I'm saying, if you deny everything bad about you, you get someone who believes they are perfect, and really aren't. Be open to criticism.

It's funny how you try to change other people's onpinions, but stick true to yours. Maybe just try accepting there are some things some people believe that you disagree with, but that doesn't mean you are right. It doesn't mean they're right, either, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and everyone should stop trying to change other people's opinions. To each his own.

I don't recall changing opinions around, and if I did they aren't swayed. I am just asking a question that would be nice if answered.

 

-Omi

The rap topic? If you deny all criticism, then no one will be able to explain to you their reasons they might not like you. I'm saying, if you deny everything bad about you, you get someone who believes they are perfect, and really aren't. Be open to criticism.

That topic was different because I gave facts, not opinion and the member was refusing to accept facts. And it wasn't only me that stated those facts.

-Omi

Saying that I am awesome means my work ethics need work.

 

Ok that is just plain ridiculous.

I never said that, now, did I?

It was implied.

-Omi

Well, having seen you in action, I can say that you're very helpful overall. Especially your actions in that Rap topic, I was really impressed.