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  1. It was, check out this quote from the page Surel-Nuva linked up above: It was fan-written, just officially endorsed. The real-time timeline for mnog is best demonstrated in a line that lost its place once Po-Wahi was unlocked. Before then, a guard blocked the Ga-Koro marina and said You can still find the text file in the game, text_v.4n_guard_eng.txt. It's a pretty clear allusion to how the update would be arriving in later spring. I hadn't thought about how the last two chapters fit together seamlessly, though. Fair point, but I don't think that that changes how things worked with the other updates. It was the end of the game, and Templar being trusted to even depict the Toa Kaita battle at all was a last-minute decision that would have called for such adjustments to the formula. With regards to the mnog timeline contradicting Greg's retcon in 2008, Greg himself has contradicted that timeline in different Q&As. But in any case my intent is not to get into a debate about what should or should not be considered "canon" - I just want to point out what the original, creative intent of the mnog was. Gotcha. I completely agree with you on the original intent of MNOG, but I think it was designed that way because of the format it was in (if that makes sense). Having to really wait for things to occur made the game feel more real to the player, but when reading it in the context of the rest of the story, it doesn't make much sense for Takua to be sitting around for a month every now and then. I'll consider moving the chapters, but I do still feel that the way the walkthrough was released flows better as a story, and makes more sense in the context of everything else going on - even if it isn't quite the same as the way the game was originally experienced. To be clear: I do really appreciate your input. I'm familiar with your animations (which are great), and so of course know how familiar you must be with MNOG. I apologize if I came off as a bit curt or rude earlier while explaining my opinion.
  2. It had them playable in either order, but the same could be said of Onu-Koro and Po-Koro. The live game in 2001 was also like this, once the chapters had been released. And yet, the menu still places Ta-Koro chronologically before Ga-Koro. There was no intent to change this original order - its just that walkthough was written by a fan who either did not recall/chose to eschew the original order, and obviously the bionicle.com web team was not so pedantic as to remember minute details like that and ask that they be addressed. Also, there was no 'fixing' of 'non-canon' elements - the only thing that was altered was the word "Tohunga." As for the story flowing better that way, it doesn't really sound to me to be any better than the original intent, where the updates happened in real-time as they were released - so Ta-Koro happens a month after Takua wakes up on the beach, giving plenty of time for Tahu to have come through and gone. Was the first MNOG walkthrough fan-written? I was assuming it wasn't, from this line on BS01: Also, it's not possible that the original release dates are actually how far apart the events occurred, as that would mean the Toa's fights with the Manas and Shadow Toa lasted almost a month (also, canonically only a year passes between the Toa Mata's arrival and Mata Nui's awakening, so MNOG alone can't have taken almost a year). And would that mean Takua spent a month just sitting on the beach?
  3. While it's true that, when MNOG was originally released, Ta-Koro was available before Ga-Koro, the re-release of MNOG (which fixed non-canon elements, such as replacing "Tohunga" with "Matoran") had these sections playable in either order. Since the walkthrough released at the same time says Ga-Koro came first, it seems that this is canonically what happened. It also flows better this way, putting some time in-between Takua's first 2 attempts to go in the direction of Ta-Koro.
  4. Perhaps a Quest for the Toa walkthrough could serve as the epilogue to book 1, rather than a prologue? The whole idea of MNOG is that Takua doesn't remember what has happened before, and the reader is supposed to share that confusion of time and place with him. But at the end of MNOG, both Takua's names and a few details of his past deeds are revealed. MNOG ends with Takua returning to Ta-Koro with Vakama, which would logically be the time he would be told of his past adventures. Therefore, I feel like the Quest of the Toa should be an epilogue with a "shortly before the arrival of the Toa", or another introduction. Good idea! That makes a lot of sense, and addresses my concerns. I remember that being my previous impression of it, but I wanted to read it over a little more before saying that for sure. I will probably end up feeling similarly. Definitely a good point. I still want to take a look at how it would read with the names inserted before making a final decision, but you're right, it wouldn't add much.
  5. Okay, first of all: thank you all so much for making this one of the Top 5 most up-voted topics in Bionicle Discussion! It means a lot to me that people are so excited about this project. I thought I'd looked at that before, but now I'm not sure. I'll read through it more thoroughly and look into including it. I may make a collection of just the comics, but that will have to wait until I've addressed all the feedback on this compilation. I'll try to go ahead and send BMP the comics I have digitally that they're missing. That might work well. I think my only concern would be how well that would serve as an introduction to Bionicle as a whole (since it would be the beginning of the very first Book). Maybe it could go right after "The Legend"? Anyway, if you've played through the game recently, your memory of it will be infinitely better than mine, so it'd be great if you wanted to take a stab at writing something up. I meant that the dialogues with these Matoran could be inserted into the book's content via flashbacks, or replacing the book's content to from "matoran" "teacher" etc with the correct names of them. (Amaya, Talvi, Kalama, etc) I've done this for the BS01, it wasn't a problem (only had to mach the book's sentences with the Matoran's sentences from the CDs) Don't worry, I haven't forgotten about you! Sorry, I've been really busy responding to other feedback, and hadn't had a chance to get back to your post(s) yet. That seems like it makes sense, and is easy enough to do. I'll look that up on BS01 and see about including those. Comic 3, actually. No, I noticed that too, but I forgot to add it to my earlier post. Good thing you pointed it out. It should go between the current chapters 27 and 28. I also noticed that some of the Comic 4 lines are not in the books, such as a full page, where Ackar informs Mata Nui about the Bone Hunters, and what they want. Okay, in the Bone Hunters attack first, and after appears the Skopio, but that's just a little detail about how the movie's script changed. Also, in the Journey's End comics there's a line where Makuta states that the "Bara Magna is mine" which as I remember not in the book. Is there a way to find lines from the comics which were left from the books and include them in this collection? That would be nice. There are a lot of individual lines that are missing/added/different in the comics vs. the books, which is why I've been focusing more on making sure all scenes are present, rather than all lines. I'd like to edit the actual text as little as possible, so if the entire page/panel a comic line is on doesn't fit well into the compilation, I probably won't include it. I did make an exception to to include a comic-exclusive line from 2002, but only because it comes up later in the books. That said, I will be adding in the comics that it has been pointed out are missing, as soon as I find the time to scan them.
  6. After the abject failure of Bionicle G2 (not saying it was necessarily bad, just that it objectively failed from a business perspective), Lego presumably isn't interested in releasing anything with the Bionicle branding for a long time. Even without an accompanying toyline, I'd love to see all the loose ends of the original story wrapped up, but only if Greg wrote it, and I get the feeling he's moved on. I don't doubt he still cares about Bionicle and its fans, but its been ~6 years since he worked on it, and I don't know if he's really interested in going back to it at this point.
  7. No, because the part where Makuta says that would be directly before the Rahkshi actually break free. The order would be: 1. Makuta scares Takua in the tunnel 2. Makuta releases the other three Rahkshi (and mentions the previous three being bound in ice) 3. The previous Rahkshi break free from the ice 4. The comics That's true, but since we are actually shown Onua and Pohatu getting buried, but given no resolution to it in between, the intended connection is quite clear. It'll also be something that the reader will think about. They'll think "doesn't that refer to that time they were buried in Onu-Koro?" rather than "although I was told about them getting buried earlier, maybe they got buried again after they got free and I just didn't see them get out of it the last time?" Okay, I think I slightly misunderstood your suggested order at first (or you misremembered where some of the comic pages were originally). I like this suggestion, and your arguments make sense. I've now changed all instances of Book 3 to match what you proposed. By the way, Toa of Italy: I promise I'm looking through everything you said, it's just taking a while! EDIT: Okay, while I'd rather have this all in a new post, nobody else has posted yet (and I assume BZP's double-posting rules are as strict as ever). So I'm just editing this in here: Book 1:I am interested in including Quest for the Toa in some form, though as you said, there's no walkthrough for it (at least, not one written like MNOG's). That said, I'm not sure how enjoyable such a walkthrough would be to read, since, if I remember correctly, the game is light on text, and the actual events that occur aren't particularly interesting (other than the Toa Stones sending the signal to the canisters)Good point about Chapter 14 (also the BS01 Timeline agrees with you). I've moved it.I'm not convinced of the need to do such a heavy reordering basically just to make it so that Lewa can have all his masks by that chapter of MNOG. I already removed that passage (about him collecting all his masks and getting his gold mask), since the golden mask part contradicts both the books and MNOG (since his mask is shown turning gold later). Also, if he already had all of his masks before getting controlled by the infected mask (which he must have if he had all of them after it's removed, since he didn't gain any new mask immediately after losing the infected mask), he would've had all of his masks way before the rest of the Toa, which seems incorrect. It also doesn't feel right to say that the Toa split into groups to look for masks, then Lewa left and got infected, Onua left and saved him, and then they resumed looking for masks in groups. In the current order, though, Gali mentions at the beginning of Chapter 24 that Lewa keeps wandering away from the group, which allows for him to have visited his village and had the incident with the infected mask, before returning to the group for the rest of the mask hunting. Oh, and Challenge of the Rahi is placed according to BS01's timeline, and it seems possible for it to happen there.Book 2:Good point about the flood. I've moved the Wall of History entry about it earlier: it puts it out-of-sequence with the others, but I don't think that really matters.I think I slightly prefer "Out of their Elements" in its current location, but if someone else says they want it moved then I'll do it. I think it works pretty much as well in either spot.Book 3: This should all be addressed in my above posts about Book 3 Book 4: Good call, I've added that comic scene.Since the first of those comics begins with them on top of a building, and the last of the comics doesn't describe them entering a chute, I thought it would read more clearly to have the scene where they enter the chute after the comics.Book 5:The '05 comics are, indeed, very much sliced up and placed wherever they can fit. However, I based their placement on BS01's Timeline, and I'm pleased with how Nuju and Kualus' conversation about learning from rahi lines up between the books and the comics, as well as Whenua and Bomonga's trip to the Archives. Also, I put the MoL animations where I did to explain the "Despite their recent victory" line at the beginning of the next book chapter: this line, to me, didn't make much sense right after the last comic.I don't have a strong opinion on where Birth of a Dark Hunter goes, other than that I would prefer it in '05 rather than '06. I considered making it an epilogue to Book 5, but that book already has several somewhat unrelated stories at the end, and I thought that might be one too many. I've moved it to just before Time Trap, which seems fine.Book 6:I'm not sure what to say to this other than that I disagree. Maybe I'm missing something, but I feel like it flows better as-is.Good suggestion. I'll add those in as soon as I get the chance to scan them.Interesting suggestion, but I don't think I like the idea of having the Mask of Life brought up in that prologue before being mentioned anywhere else.Fair enough. I've moved it to just before Inferno's prologue.Book 7:Again, fair enough. I've moved The Many Deaths of Toa Tuyet to just after the end of Legends 6.Good call, done.Book 8:I'm not sure what to say except that that's when Federation of Fear happens. I think, reading the story, that the amount of time certain events take is fuzzy, and FoF doesn't stand out as being too long. If other people say they agree that it's an issue, then I'll re-evaluate.You may have a point about the Chirox thing, but I need to go read back through and confirm. I'll reorder as necessary to account for that (just note that I haven't done so yet).The point about the telepathic signal also makes sense, and I'll look into it as well.I originally considered putting Journey of Takanuva after Dark Mirror, but upon re-reading all 3, I think JoT makes sense first, from a writing standpoint: all three of those stories are about Takanuva learning that good and evil aren't always clear-cut, and he's clearly the most naive about that idea in JoT. It doesn't seem believable that he would act the way he does in JoT if he's already been through the Kingdom and Dark Mirror. Also, I don't like the idea of lumping all the Takanuva stuff together.See above about FoFI'm not sure what exactly your reasoning is behind this specific order for the serial chapters, so let me just say: I ordered them with as much mixing as possible, so that the gap between any 2 chapters of a given serial/book is as small as possible (so the reader doesn't forget what's going on with any set of characters), but so that they're still in an order that makes sense. I believe that multiple chapters from the same serial should be directly next to each other as little as possible, since they seem clearly written not to be read immediately after one another (reflecting the way they were released). I'm also extremely firm on the order of the last few chapters of everything, as I think the way I've arranged the last chapter and epilogue of The Final Battle and the last chapters of DiD and DW works perfectly.Book 9:Both Fall and Rise of the Skrall and The Exile's Tale were originally at the beginning of Book 9, but someone suggested that they would be better read later, after the reader is introduced to those characters elsewhere (and other people, including myself, agreed).I know what Empire of the Skrall contains. I don't think that it's as good an introduction to Bara Magna as The Crossing.Go ahead and send me that walkthrough and I'll take a look at it. I came across the story of the Hero Agori when putting this compilation together, but didn't see a good way to include it.My issue with that is that it would put chapters EotS 5 and 6 too far apart from each other. I'd like the reader to remember EotS 5 when they get to 6.The reveal of the Traitor in EotS is just after the end of TLR, for exactly the reason you described.I know when All Our Sins Remembered takes place, which is why I added the "Weeks Ago..." textbox to it. It reveals too much about the history of Bara Magna to be placed that early. I can't tell if you're saying you don't like the current position of Decadence, or just that it could fill the slot where AOSR is if that were to move; regardless, I like Decadence just after Tarix and Vastus agree to work together, since it then gives more detail on their history (multiple users agreed with placing it there).Good point, I'll include that once I get the chance to scan it.I've moved Takanuva's Blog, as you're correct about the sequence of events there (having it all in one place also helps the reader not get it confused with Mata Nui's ongoing diary entries). However, I already considered trying to get RoS8 in before Comic 5 so as to include the end of the comic, but I think it just packs too many RoS entries too close together. The other changes you've suggested here seem arbitrary.
  8. You're totally right about Chapter 8; I've now moved it. The specific lines you mentioned have been fixed, though I haven't yet had time to read through the whole thing for other references to all the Koro going to the tournament. I'll think about your suggestion with the comics, though wouldn't that still contradict Makuta mentioning the Rahkshi being trapped in ice? Gali's line is a little odd, but since an indeterminate amount of time has passed since the Toa were last seen together, it could theoretically refer to another event.
  9. Okay, wow is there a lot of feedback! Sorry for taking so long to respond to any of the new posts; I was really busy this weekend. I've updated Book 3 to address most of the concerns raised about it. This includes: Moving MNOG 2 chapters 1-8 to before Tales of the Masks. I knew that these chapters took place before Tales of the Masks, but I originally placed them afterward so that they wouldn't be so cut off from their final chapter (which is broken up throughout Mask of Light). But the majority opinion definitely seems to be that they should come first so I've moved them. Note: I would have preferred to splice the chapters of MNOG 2 in-between the chapters of Tales of the Masks, but the way that TotM is written (stories of the past in-between short bits of the present, with chapter breaks serving as the transition) makes this not work wellAlmost all issues reported by Toatapio Nuva have been fixed. All typos he listed should now be fixed, as well as the moments that contradict canon. I haven't un-capitalized every word with an unnecessary capitalization, but I intend to when I have time. I also haven't converted MNOG 2 to past-tense, and I think I would like to do so, but that will be a serious undertaking and will take some time.The comics have been moved to the location suggested by ArchAngelleofJustice. Those comics were, by far, the hardest to find a good place for in the entire compilation, since there are several moments that seem to contradict the order of events in Mask of Light (it got me wondering how much re-writing MoL may have gone through before release). The reason I had placed them where I did was to line up the comic's portrayal of Makuta creating the second set of Rahkshi with when it happens in MoL, but clearly that still created issues. ArchAngelleofJustice's suggestion made sense to me (and also allowed me to add back the wonderful "What is Rahkshi?" line, since it no longer contradicts the comics), so I went with it.The Legend Continues has NOT been added, and I honestly don't currently have any intention of doing so. I looked into it while putting together the compilation, and it doesn't seem to add anything to the story. If someone makes a good case for its inclusion, I'll definitely reconsider, but right now it seems unnecessary. I promise I'll get to everything else that was posted, but there's a lot to go through, so I wanted to focus on the Book with the most feedback first.
  10. Okay, first: the epilogue of Book 6 now opens with "Thousands of years ago…", across all versions. In addition, I've updated all of the Young Reader book page numbers in Book 9, but not in the Complete collection yet. EDIT: All Young Reader book page numbers are now correct, across all Books and versions. EDIT: They're wrong again, and will probably remain so until all feedback has been dealt with. I like those title choices. The different phases of the story really do fit perfectly into those three parts. In the debate over Book 7's title, I too think "The Pit" is perfect for that volume in the scenario of multiple-word titles. It's just short enough and descriptive enough, and it sounds pretty menacing. I actually hadn't seen it either until someone mentioned it here! I assume that stanza refers to Voya Nui being "divided" from the MU, and how "cutting" the Cord will allow it to return. Right, and the "darkness" presumably refers to the Pit, aka black water. The poem looks great. I still like the longer names better, but I was thinking about the title "Venom" for Book 5, and "Mutation" might work better. Especially since that's a theme in BA6. I think "Sacrifice" is bit too spoilery for Book 7. "Mutation" makes sense, and I somewhat agree on "Sacrifice;" I'll consider changing those. But, as seen in the above quote, more people keep saying that they want the longer titles, so I'm thinking about possibly doing that. It's hard for me to gauge the actual interest in short vs. long titles, though, since I don't know how many people aren't being vocal about their opinion (especially since, on average, the posts asking to keep the short names have more upvotes than those asking for the longer names). As long as I've been on here, I still don't quite know what the rules are for polls: would it be possible for me to make a poll asking for people's opinions on the titles?
  11. Not sure there really is an explanation, considering it was only used promotionally. I didn't really include it with the idea that it exists in-universe. Good call, there should be. I'll add that in the morning.
  12. I actually hadn't seen it either until someone mentioned it here! I assume that stanza refers to Voya Nui being "divided" from the MU, and how "cutting" the Cord will allow it to return.
  13. Update time again: A chunk of the Style Guide section featuring Tahu has been removed, since it didn't fit wellThe poem from Piraka.com foreshadowing the '06-'08 storyline has been added to the beginning of Book 6 I must admit I had similar thoughts about it. I like the additional dialogue it gives, as well as the fact that it introduces the specific powers of the masks, but its storytelling is a bit akward. If you decide to leave out that part, it might indeed flow better. EDIT: Oh, by the way, you might also wanna add a comma in between "To the south[,] jagged rocks made a crude wall against the ocean" when you next update that book. The original version doesn't have the comma, but it should probably have one. Alright, I've gone ahead and removed that part. As for the comma, I definitely would have included one if I had written it, but it's readable without it, and I'd like to keep everything as close to how it was written as possible (for anything that isn't incorrect, non-canon, etc.).
  14. EDIT: To make it easier for people to check if they have the latest updates, I've edited the original post to have the date and time the last update occurred shown next to each Book. I hope this is helpful! I'd like to include something like that, but I can't think of an elegant way to include it that keeps the whole thing flowing like a story. First of all, thank you so much for your kind words. I actually really like the "Part" titles you suggested (they do fit surprisingly well), so I'll consider them. And I'll add 1 to the number of people who would prefer longer titles (which is definitely starting to look like the majority). Good call, I'll fix that ASAP. I must've gotten thrown off by Tahu saying "Gali's right" right afterward. EDIT: Fixed! Definitely a good suggestion. Honestly, though, looking back at it, I'm thinking about cutting everything in that chapter after "He kept moving toward what appeared to be a great walled city, sitting in the middle of a lake of molten lava." I think introducing all that info in the first chapter kind of throws off the flow of the book (not to mention the way that Vakama and Ta-Koro aren't really introduced, as if the reader should have heard of them already). I like having the mention of Tahu seeing Takua, since it makes it clearer in MNOG Chapter 1 that Tahu is who Takua sees on the beach, but everything after that is information the reader will find out later anyway. Thoughts?
  15. MAJOR UPDATE! Book 9 has now been rearranged across all versions! I modified it slightly from my last proposed order (you can check my notes for the new order). It now also includes Mata Nui's Diary, segments from the Mata Nui Saga, and the Fall of Tajun text from Bionicle.com. I feel much better about the new order, and hope that all of you will check it out! Other changes: Book 1 now includes another segment from the Style Guide, and the Kaita/Manas fight has been slightly reworked again, now incorporating a line from another Style Guide segment (also fixed a couple remaining present- vs. past-tense issues from combining MNOG and Chronicles #1)Book 2 now includes the Style Guide segment about Gali losing her powers (unfortunately, I couldn't find any good way to really work in the 2 suggested 2002 Style Guide bits) Please download new copies of these Books if you want the best versions of them!
  16. Okay, the titles have been changed again. For now, Book 5 is Venom, Book 7 is Sacrifice, and Book 8 is Rising. The next thing on my to-do list is adding some of those Style Guide segments Toatapio posted, and after that... I think I'll get underway on the Book 9 rearrangement. That's a good thought; I guess I should do that! It'll probably be at the bottom of my priority list for now, though. I'll consider it, though as you'll see if you take a look at my notes (linked at the end of the first post), the way things are ordered can get a little... messy. I'm not sure how to make a professional-looking table of contents with how much I've broken up some pieces of writing. I'll consider that, maybe after all of this is done. The obstacle there is that I don't have good scans of all the comics, since I didn't use all of them in this compilation (only those that include story not featured elsewhere). I can get them, it would just take some time. This pretty much only includes things that were written as a story, so nothing from the guidebooks. However, I've heard that someone else is working on a guidebook compilation... Thank you. That means a lot coming from someone who's been here as long as you. The movie novelizations are included, though the ones for the 2nd and 3rd movies were edited so as not to repeat sections of the story (since the beginning of each of those retreads material from earlier books). I would love to possibly get a copy of this printed when it's all done, but that's probably a while off (especially since it would likely need serious reformatting to be printed as a physical book).
  17. Okay, first of all: oh my god, this made the front page! Many thanks to Black Six for his kind words in the news post (and for making the news post at all)! I'm honored. I wasn't familiar with it, but after looking it up, yeah, I think it'd be great at the beginning of Book 6. I'll get on that. Fair points. However, they did remove the "Ignition" branding from the '08 comics, making it a little more murky. At this point, I'm considering dropping the name "Ignition" for any Book, since it could seem incorrect either way. All fair points. Like I said, I plan on sticking with the simple names until/unless I can get a better idea of what most people want, but if I do decide to change them, I'll definitely take this all into account. Thank you! I've also thought about how cool it would be to have these as printed, physical volumes (though as you said, it would have to wait until everything is totally finalized). Thanks! I do recommend you keep an eye on the topic to keep up with updates: Book 9 in particular will be going through some big changes soon. As for typing up the books, that was all Toatapio Nuva. Direct all questions (and praise) related to that his way.
  18. That's a fair point. I'll take another look at it, maybe rework it a little bit. Cool, I'll go with that, then. And I've already got all the Makuta and Mata Nui diary entries typed up (got that done yesterday), but thanks for the offer! Thanks! I really should have looked through the Style Guide more when I was copying over the Shadow Toa fight. I'll look into working those in. Thanks so much! And welcome to BZP! So, the Book names. It sounds like we have 2 more people who like the simple, one-word titles (though Tyrion Archer seems open to either style). Alligaytorr actually did a a great job putting my issues with the other naming system into words: I don't really like the idea of attributing the name of one part of a volume to the entire thing. For now, I'll probably go ahead and change Book 7 to Ignition and Book 8 to Rising, and leave the rest as-is. I'm still open to the idea of possibly completely changing the titles if more people voice a desire for it, but since opinion looks to be more split than it first appeared, I'd rather keep the current system for now.
  19. Okay, first of all, update time! Book 1 has been updated in several ways: The Kaita/Manas fight has been edited to be more readableThe Style Guide segment where the Toa discuss attacking a Nui-Jaga nest has been added on page 108 (right after the group obtains Tahu's Miru). It fits well with the montage of different scenes of the Toa recovering the masks, and failing to work together as a team.The Style Guide segment where Tahu arrives in Ta-Koro and meets Vakama (starting from "The white-sand beach") has been added at the end of Chapter 1.Unfortunately, these changes have increased the "Complete" collection by a few pages, making the edited page numbers in Journey of Takanuva incorrect. I will fix these soon, but want to wait until I'm more certain that they'll be staying where they are (there are still a few changes I'm considering that would come before those pages, and might affect the page numbers). I was initially thinking it wouldn't work well, but looking back at it... it would probably fit right after the final chapter of Dwellers In Darkness. I think I'll probably go with that. One question, though: if I do put it there, should Book 8 just have an enormous epilogue (its epilogue already contains the epilogue from The Final Battle and the last chapter of Dwellers in Darkness), or should I change the current epilogue (other than its final paragraph) into a chapter, and make Makuta's Diary + the current final paragraph into the new epilogue? (alternatively, I could give it 2 epilogues, but that's a bit unorthodox). You are absolutely correct about Ignition, and I feel very dumb now. If you also like PlanetPerson's suggestions, then I'm down to change the current names. I will say, though, that while I also really like the title "Masks," I don't think it works as well if Book 1 is called "Quest for the Masks." It sounds repetitive. With this naming style, I'm leaning toward: Quest for the MasksMakuta's Revenge or What Lurks Below or Secret of the SwarmsThe Seventh ToaCity of LegendsWeb of ShadowsIsland of DoomDownfall or IgnitionDestiny War or The Final BattleJourney's EndEpilogueWhat are people's thoughts?
  20. Thanks for the feedback! Some quick responses: Yeah, I definitely think soThanks. I think it does a really good job introducing Bara MagnaI also prefer switching between different stories, but I don't think that would really work: the Skrall and Malum are central enough to The Crossing and the first 3 chapters of EotS that it would probably create issuesI agree, but I think this order's benefits outweigh that (though I'm open to having my mind changed). Do you think Comic 1 shouldn't be at the beginning?I was planning to do that at first, but after re-reading Makuta's Diary, I feel like it reads better all at once. Looking at the order, it would also be a bit difficult to split up effectively, since it all needs to come before Reign of Shadows part 4.Good call on the Mata Nui Saga; I'm not sure how I forgot it either. I'll definitely include the text from the parts describing the past, and possibly the art from them as well if I can make it look good in this format. The stuff in the present is all in Journey's End, so I'll probably leave those parts out.I am open to changing the names, though I'd really like to hear other people's thoughts as well before making any changes. For the record, I think I prefer the simple names (and I don't particularly care for using exact titles from chapterbooks)That's definitely an interesting idea regarding the taglines, though I don't know how well it would work without one for every year, and as you said, not all of them are exactly usable Only if Insane Bionicle Brain gets a chapter in Book 3
  21. Okay, I now have the Makuta and Mata Nui diary entries typed up, and have a new proposed order for Book 9. Old order: New order: This includes my previously-proposed '09 changes, as well as: Secret of Certavus would be directly after The Exile's Tale, and Empire of the Skrall (with The Exile's Tale still immediately after it) would be immediately after The Crossing: I think The Crossing serves as the best introduction to Bara Magna for the Text-Only version, so it makes sense for it to be the first thing after Comic 1Makuta's Diary would be right before Chapter 1 of The Legend RebornChallenge of Mata Nui would be on the way to Tajun, not Tesara (this change is definitely happening: Mata Nui's Diary confirms that it should be here)Mata Nui's Diary entries would be, generally, placed immediately after the events each entry describes (though Entries 1-3 would need to be grouped together at the end of TLR Chapter 1, since there aren't good places to squeeze in 1 and 2 in the middle of the chapter)The Attack on Tajun summary from Bionicle.com would be right after Mata Nui and friends find Gresh, and find out that the Skrall and Bone Hunters are alliedI'm feeling pretty good about this, but would still love feedback before I actually go through and re-order everything. The only thing I'm not entirely sure about is Makuta's Diary being entirely in one place (rather than split up throughout): I think it reads better this way, but I'm open to splitting it up. Feedback on the placement of anything else is welcome as well.
  22. Thanks for reading through all that! Everything you mentioned should now be fixed across all versions, with one exception: I left the question mark at the end of Vakama's statement, as it doesn't seem necessarily incorrect. By the way: I didn't realize until you brought it up that the Papercutz graphic novel #1 leaves out that page with Gali diving into the water (it printed an extra cover of the next issue in its place). I keep finding out more and more just how terrible those Papercutz collections were. Oh, also: if you could let me know your thoughts on where I inserted those Bahrag lines ("You dared oppose your brothers"), that would be great. Thanks for your compliments on the promo comics! I did my best to make them flow well. I assume the passage you quoted from the Style Guide is part of the '01 story? It sounds like it is, but everything else you mentioned was from Book 2, so it threw me off for a sec. I'll take a look at including it. So, current to-do list: Rework the Kaita/Manas fight to make it more readableLook into including the Style Guide passage that Toatapio Nuva quotedRe-watch the Bohrok animations, and possibly include screenshots from themRe-read the Makuta (and Mata Nui) diary entries and look into including themRead through, and look into including, the story bits from Bionicle.com that Planetperson linked toFinalize, and actually perform, reordering of Book 9Fix the page numbers in the rest of the Level 3 Reader books Sorry I haven't been getting updates out as quickly this past week. Things have been really busy, and work's been wearing me down more than usual. I'll try to get most of this list done in the coming week. Thanks again to everyone who's provided feedback!
  23. It's definitely a good question. My headcanon has always been that the chutes are actually a thin wall of liquid protodermis filled with air: the liquid protodermis serves as a barrier to keep the chute intact and flowing, but the actual substance that travelers ride in is air. But as for an explanation that actually fits the official canon, I've got no idea. Your idea seems as good as any.
  24. Minor update: the page numbers of Journey of Takanuva have been edited to reflect the actual page numbers they are on in the compilation. I will be doing this with the other Young Reader books at a later time, once the order of '09 is more finalized (so I'm sure what the page numbers will be). Hmm, makes sense. I was unsure how clear it would be that Takua's seeing a vision of what's happening if I just cut to it as if it's a different scene, but you're probably right. I think my only concern is including Gali's line to Takua ("FIND US"). I really like it, but it seems like it wouldn't work well if the scene isn't being shown from Takua's perspective. I meant to look at Makuta's diary entries yesterday, but didn't find the time. I'll try to at least take some pictures of them today, so I can read them (and possibly type them up) when I'm not at home with the book.
  25. Ah, okay. Apologies for the misunderstanding. My thought was that the third-person narration of the lines from the book could be read as Takua narrating in first-person, but looking back through it, I see the changes in tense that make it not work (not sure why I didn't see that earlier). I'm tempted to just change all of the tenses to match, but I see there are a lot of references to things that aren't visible (thoughts, feelings), so I'm not sure that works with Takua describing the scene as he sees it. I'll have to do some re-working for sure. I haven't re-read the Makuta diary entries in while (nor most of the Mata Nui ones). My memory of them was that they mostly just rehash events from the books, but I'll go back through them and see.
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