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This is probably our best bet. Additionally, Stronius uses Metru Red while Skrall (the set) used Mata Red. Based on how Tuma and Stronius interacted in that serial, I'm guessing Stronius is of higher rank than the usual Skrall, so this supports the theory as well. Yeah, Stronius is a more elite Skrall, hence why he has a name. Typical Skrall don't get individual names.

I don't know of an official explanation. My best guess is that they're an indication of rank, though Stars Skrall kinda screws that up. If you ignore the Stars, though (whose exact designs weren't completely canon anyway), I think it being a sign of rank also explains why Tuma is the only Skrall we've seen with a green rock steed: it's reserved for him since green is the color of the Skrall Chief.

Thank you for your continued feedback! The first two issues are now fixed. Unless there's something I missed or other people disagree with me, though, I think I'll leave Jaller and Pewku as-is in Dark Mirror, since, even if the Bohrok attack never happened, it's still possible that they did something else to earn new names. I'm still trying to decide what to do about those weapon capitalizations (Sub-Zero Spear and Seismic Spear), since some weapons in Bionicle get capitalized names (Spear of Fusion, Staff of Light), but others don't (magma swords, air katana), and since Dark Mirror was released as a podcast rather than text, there's no way to know how Greg actually wrote the names of those two weapons. I'm leaning toward leaving them as-is because I think it reads a little better, but I'd appreciate other people's opinions on this. I also still need to read through Dark Mirror for other potentially unnecessary capitalizations.

So I know I've taken a while to make a statement on this, but, after giving it some thought, I don't plan to include the extra content from the Hungarian version of Tale of the Toa, given that, as others have said, it appears to be the original manuscript before it received some much-needed editing. Also, small update: I've changed Book 1 so that its "Standard" version doesn't include Quest for the Toa, as I felt uncomfortable including a fan-transcription that had not been officially endorsed in the Standard version. The versions of Book 1 that contain it are now considered the "Complete" versions (like with Protection in Book 5). I hope this doesn't bother anyone, since all the same options are present, they're basically just titled differently. Been looking forward to your notes since you posted this. Do you still plan on posting them? They'd be really helpful. EDIT: I'd like to make this a new post so that people will get an alert for it, but no one else has posted yet so I can't. Anyway: the entire compilation is now Justified rather than Left-aligned! I liked the idea ever since OmegaLucasNuva suggested it, and I finally got around to finding an easy way to do it. I did a quick once-over to make sure no formatting got messed up, but as always, let me know if you see anything wrong!

Wow, that's one heck of an extension. My partner are pretty much done, so I guess we'll just spend some extra time tweaking things.

Well, Helryx, Miserix, Axonn, and Brutaka already knew from when the Antidermis-possessed Brutaka revealed it to them in the last chapter of Dwellers in Darkness (I think him saying that Mata Nui had computers for a brain was enough for them to determine MN was robotic). Also, while Teridax didn't specify that Mata Nui was a giant robot when he revealed his Plan had succeeded, he did reveal that Mata Nui was the universe itself. Based on how everyone seems to at least sort of know about the GSR later on, I've always assumed that detail was passed around during the time between the end of '08 and the beginning of RoS. It does seem possible from this passage that Teridax didn't know about the GSR until his spirit entered it (though he definitely knew before it woke up). But that still doesn't make sense to me... without knowing that Mata Nui inhabited a metal body, and that his "brain" was under Metru Nui, how would Teridax have even known he could take over the way he did?

Huh. Didn't know about Greg's statements regarding Toa Velika not being the Great Being in the Kingdom. Does that contradict this quote? (Source) I guess it's possible Greg was saying that the Great Being we know as Velika still existed as a GB in the Kingdom, just in a different body? Seems weird to answer that question so succinctly if that's what he meant, though.

On further thought, I agree that none of the OoMN probably knew. I'll have to think more on Tren Krom. But which part of Makuta's Diary shows that he didn't know about the GSR until taking over? He doesn't indicate any surprise at what Mata Nui really was. Are you referring to him saying he didn't know what the Bohrok were for at the time he released them?

I believe the Order of Mata Nui (at least the higher-ups) knew the true form of Mata Nui, but I don't think they knew about the Shattering and the reason for Mata Nui's creation. As for the Makuta, I can really only think of two possibilities (I'm not sure what's canon): Something about the change Velika made to give the MU inhabitants sentience caused some species to forget the true nature of Mata Nui (I think this seems doubtful, if only because I don't know why it would affect the Makuta but not the OoMN) Mata Nui, not knowing Teridax's true destiny, saw no reason for the Makuta to know his true form, so he created them without knowledge of it. Perhaps the Makuta didn't exactly "forget," but Mata Nui removed that knowledge from the raw Antidermis he used to create them (leaving it present in the remaining Antidermis).

You raise some interesting points. It hadn't occurred to be before that there isn't an obvious reason for Ta-Metru to constantly be making masks. One thing, though: the Mata/Nuva's masks were teleported to their Suva from their faces and back. They didn't actually fuse together (though I used to think that, based on how it looks in the comics). So any Toa (or other being) without a Suva would have to either carry their spare masks on them, or return to where they kept them to swap out.

Thanks! And, as I see how it is Takanuva's Destiny to stop the war (which I did not know prior to you mentioning it), I never really understood the whole destiny thing with matoran becoming toa, Were all the matoran that were ever going to be made (because I'm pretty sure they still manufacture matoran for specific jobs in factories or something) have their destinies already predetermined? and if so, is it by the Great Beings? Does any random Matoran get it written in their destiny that they will need to become a toa should the situation/need arise? If that is the case, is it possible that new destinies could be made for new matoran or existing ones since most of the old enemies are alive and well, and with Teridax out of the way, people like Misirex and TSO are free to do what they please? Destiny has always been a bit confusing in Bionicle, and getting too far into questions about it will likely only leave you more confused than when you started, unfortunately. Specifically in regard to Matoran becoming Toa: all Matoran destined to become Toa already have latent Toa Power within them, it just has to be activated (I've personally never cared for this, but it's canon). So there is a physical difference between Matoran that can become Toa and those that can't. I believe it was stated that the destiny of MU inhabitants is determined by Mata Nui at the time of their creation, but I've never been sure how far that extends (how much of what a person does in their lifetime is considered part of their "destiny"?). And that does raise the question: if a Matoran is created after Mata Nui is gone, who determines their destiny? Does anyone? Is there any chance they could be destined to be a Toa? I don't know. Regarding your last question: I don't believe someone's destiny can ever be re-written. If a Matoran was not destined to become a Toa at the time of their creation, they never will. But, it was Mata Nui's destiny to return to Spherus Magna, so it's certainly possible for there to be Matoran destined to become Toa after that happened.

Congrats on starting your first topic! So, first of all: Matoran can only become Toa if they are destined to. So, even if a Toa was willing to give a portion of their Toa energy to a Matoran that just wanted to be a Toa "for fun," the Matoran would not transformed if it wasn't their destiny. As others have said, though, there is reason to think that there could be future events that would necessitate the help of new Toa, so it's very possible that there are other Matoran in existence destined to become Toa. Many of the villains of the MU are still around, and likely wouldn't change their ways on Spherus Magnua. So heroes would still be needed. I will say that I'm not sure it's any Matoran's destiny to become a Toa to help stop the Great Being war, since stopping it was going to be Takanuva's destiny (as stated by Greg).

Aw man, I'd absolutely love to enter (I have a pretty decently-sized Galidor collection and I'm dying to own that Bionicle art book), but I'm not already a Eurobricks member

Potentially. I'll need to go through my masks and check what I have. I'll PM you once I know if I've got anything you're looking for.

Thanks so much for all the feedback! Everything should now be fixed that needed to be. Some notes: I've transcribed some lines from the podcasts slightly differently than BS01 did, based on what it sounds like to me. After your feedback, I've changed a few things to more closely match BS01, but some are still different.I moved the italics in "the universe needs it" from "needs" to "universe," as that seems to make more sense (and the way it was actually done was likely a mistake).I fixed the inconsistency in how the Nuva arrived at Artakha by removing the sentence describing a long journey bringing them there. It seemed like the simplest way to fix it.I've left the following things unchanged: "a group calling themselves Zyglak" - I think it's phrased that way in reference to how the characters had never heard of the Zyglak before (so to them, it's just a group of creatures that call themselves that)."It was the Makuta who guarded Metru Nui" - this is a tricky one to change, since there's not another easy name to refer to Teridax by at this point in the story. Also, while he wasn't technically assigned to Metru Nui yet, he clearly had his eye on it, so that could be what the line refers to."These others I am not familiar with" - again, difficult to cleanly edit without changing a lot. It also seems to me that Teridax could be referring to his knowledge of them before the League of Six Kingdoms was formed."Then do it, Lewa." - this does very well seem like it could be an error, and if it were as simple as changing it from "Lewa used the Kakama" to "Pohatu used the Kakama," I probably would. But since the flow of the conversation would necessitate re-attributing Lewa's line to Pohatu, and it doesn't actually contradict any canon, I'd prefer to leave it as-is."Better listen to Takadox, masked ones" - this one does read a little oddly, but I think it does seem possible that Takadox is referring to himself in the third person, and since he used Pridak's name so shortly after (rather than just saying "he"), it seems unlikely to me that Greg accidently used Takadox's name in place of Pridak's."the myriad creatures" - this is proper grammar"he struck at us from ambush" - this is proper grammar"keeping its distance from two beings" - this is proper grammar"it too will be restored to where it belongs" - this is proper grammar"and all that was left him was revenge" - this is proper grammar"I did what I could to ease its suffering then" - this is proper grammar (the comma was added by BS01, and wasn't in the original text)"ask questions of your corpses" - this is proper grammar With regards to the treespeak thing; I'm pretty sure I remember that, when it was first introduced in MNOG, treespeak words had no hyphens; it was only around-about 2003-04 that started becoming a thing. I would tentatively guess than all such words coined in the early years were forever spelled without hyphens, while any new ones that Greg invented from the Metru Nui era onwards were given hyphens for ease of understanding? Though this is only a guess based on half-remembered facts, as it's been ages since I seriously looked at any of the source material. That's the thing, though: it's inconsistent. Some treespeak phrases that originally didn't have a hyphen were later used with one by Greg, but he did still spell the occasional one without a hyphen. But generally, yes: the early stuff didn't use hyphens, and all the later stuff by Greg did use them. Sounds about right - the lexicon is like mnog and doesn't use hyphens. If anyone has the Official Guide to Bionicle on-hand to check, It'd be interesting to know if there are hyphens there, since it's written by Greg. As I mentioned in my earlier post, the Official Guide to Bionicle uses both (though it leans heavily toward not using hyphens, oddly). I think Greg may have started using hyphens just to make it clear to his editor and/or readers that it wasn't a typo.

Went to B&N yesterday and picked up the new Boba and Vader for 30% off (the deal is 20% off, or 30% off if you're a B&N Member). The normal prices weren't marked up either (not sure if that's common at B&N, as I don't often shop for Lego there).

If the first wave of stores to close is any indication, Lego will be discounted, just not the newest sets. I went to one of those a couple weeks ago, and they had all the Star Wars Buildable Figures 30% off besides Boba and the new Vader (didn't look around at much other Lego).

Okay, a few more small updates: There were a lot of instances in MNOG where a quotation mark would be put at the end of a paragraph, even if the next paragraph was being spoken by the same person. These should now all be fixed.In several Books, there were a few dash marks that were too long (the result of copying different texts from different sources with different formatting). They should all be consistent now.A few hyperlinks (the result of copying some text directly from BS01) were still around. Those are all now removed.A few other minor fixes in Books 1 and 2 (typos, missing indents, etc.)I'm still working on fixing the Treespeak, but that should be done soon. It's this bit: “What’s the plan when we find them?” Gali whispered. “Do you remember the one we used when we cleaned out that Nui-Jaga nest on Mata Nui?” Tahu replied. Gali paused, trying to recall. Then she said, “Wait a second, we didn’t have a plan then. You and Kopaka were having one of your arguments. You hurled a fireball, missed, and set the brush on fire. The smoke drove the Nui-Jaga out, and we had to fight them all.” “That’s the plan,” said Tahu. This seems to reference that event. Though in the style guide it was Gali herself who suggested using smoke: “Gali will protest,” said the Toa of Water. “This matter is not settled. This plan is foolish and dangerous. The Nui-Jaga dislike smoke… they dislike water… using our powers, Tahu, we could force them from their nest and deal with them here in the open. Instead, you want to plunge in like a starving taku bird after a fish.” Neat! Though it does seem like Greg may have referenced the scene from memory, rather than going back to check the details (since in the original scene, Gali wants them to do what she implies in '08 was a bad move on Tahu's part). Still, it does seem like a good reason to keep the original scene in. Nice catch!

Okay, no major updates to report, but I've done some general cleaning-up: I noticed some page numbers weren't centered (particularly in the PDFs containing every book). That should now be fixed in all versions of all books.I made some minor adjustments to the title page and copyright page (I'd forgotten to give Christian Faber credit for the cover art, among other things)The various needlessly-capitalized words in MNOG2 should now be fixed. Let me know if you notice any I've missed!The page number referenced in one of the '04 comic pages is now correct across all versionsThe page numbers for the Level 3 Reader books that were incorrect have been erased. I will add in the correct page numbers once Books 8 and 9 are looking more finalized.One other thing I started to look at was making the way treespeak is written consistent. But I noticed that, other than maybe one or two words, there aren't really any treespeak phrases that are used both without a hyphen (in Books 1 and 2) and with a hyphen (in the other Books). Not only that, but there are a few instances of Greg using treespeak with a hyphen for some words, but without one for others. The Official Guide to Bionicle (outdated as it may be) also seems to indicate that some treespeak words have hyphens while others don't. Given all of this, I'm thinking I'll make any treespeak words that sometimes have a hyphen and sometimes don't consistent, but leave it at that. Thoughts? I'm eager to see what you're referring to in regards to the Nui-Jaga nest scene! Also, your link isn't working for me. EDIT: Got the link working. Wow! I'll definitely need to take a look at that. Thanks for letting me know!

UPDATE: Got one! Looking for this thing: Let me know if you've got it and would like to sell/trade! Not interested in any of the other foam Bionicle roleplay weapons, just this one.

Fun idea! It's not that close-up, but here's Florida's Hulk Here's the other Florida Snow White scene And California's Beauty and the Beast

Fixed (though the second one is actually "[...]said nothing, one because he had nothing useful to add[...]", the first "useful" isn't supposed to be there) Nope, both the original and the Papercutz version look like that. It does look weird, though. fixed Nope: "I did not [...] have to subsist" Fixed. Tentatively left this unchanged, since I think it could conceivably have been left out intentionally. Fixed (I never would have caught the "whom" thing, but you are correct). Left as-is; I think it works. Fixed. I've left this unchanged, as I don't think there should be a comma right before a dashed interlude. Maybe this is incorrect, but my understanding is that one of the distinctions between using a parenthetical and dashes is that a dashed section implies a pause, whereas parentheses don't. Fixed, there was originally a dash there. Either is acceptable, so I've left it as-is. All fixed (note: the Ehlek thing was missing a dash from the original text). Left as-is, since I think it works. Fixed. I couldn't replicate this issue myself (I can copy text from the epilogue of both Book 7 PDFs into a Word doc just fine). The text in the PDF appears fine, right? It's just when you try to copy it that it messes up? If that's the case, I'm not too concerned about it. Currently, any journal/diary/"blog" entries that are interspersed with other text are italicized, while those that are collected as their own section/chapter(s) (e.g. Mutran Chronicles, Makuta's Guide to the Universe stuff) are left as standard text. I did this because I thought the italics helped distinguish these things from the surrounding text, but that it was bothersome to have entire chapters entirely in italics. I'm open to changing it, but I'd like to wait until you (and maybe Toatapio) have read through Books 8 and 9, since those have similar entries and I'd like to make any changes to them all at once (to make sure things stay consistent). Yeah, once you add up 10 books that's a good chunk of change. The page counts for the Standard books are currently: Book 1: 137 Book 2: 128 Book 3: 115 Book 4: 225 Book 5: 314 Book 6: 228 Book 7: 152 Book 8: 240 Book 9: 398 Book 10: 42

Fixed. I actually only have the "End Chapter" boxes on pages where there was a text box already present that either said "End Chapter [number]" or that I had already erased for whatever reason. I could insert them into every comic page that ends a chapter, but I'd rather not cover up more art than necessary. Fixed. I've tentatively left it as-is, because it was originally written that way, and I think the meaning of the statement is still clearly conveyed (also, a single sentence of three words all separated by commas looks weird). I'm open to changing this if other people think a comma should be added. Fixed. I've only changed the references to the Pit in the scene with Botar, since those are the ones that specifically reference the prison. It's cool to see everybody talking about cover designs! I do plan to try and get a physical copy of each Book printed once it's all finalized (though cost may be an obstacle). I envisioned the covers as something simple, like maybe all-black with a white/silver UDD logo, and the Book title (with both the number and title on the spine). Some of the fanart suggestions seem like they'd make pretty cool dust jackets, but I probably won't bother with jackets when printing these. I'd love to see how it turns out if anyone decides to print their own copy/copies with dust jacket(s), though!

Planetperson covered this pretty thoroughly, but one thing I wanted to add: while Voya Nui was outside the GSR, water did pour into the MU through the hole left by it. But it then poured directly into Karda Nui, through the hole in the Southern Continent where Voya Nui had been. This is what created the swamp that covered the ground-level of Karda Nui.

Thanks! I would say that you'll be fine starting now. Books 1-5 have been proofread by multiple people: I would consider those pretty much final (Book 6 is also near-final, having been proofread at least once). By the time you get through those, hopefully either I or someone else will have proofread the next Book or two. Also, I don't really think any more content will be getting added at this point; basically all that's left for Books 7-10 is fixing typos and making sure everything is arranged ideally.That said, if you really want to be sure everything is completely, 100% finalized before starting any of it, I'm not sure when that will be. Toatapio is working his way through Book 7, and I've been trying to read through Book 8 but haven't found the time to read much of it yet. I am planning on making a post when I'm ready to declare everything finalized, though, so if you Follow the topic for updates you'll know when that happens. I´m just hoping it gets finished!!!! very great job. Sadly Greg didnt finished the story of it In terms of completion i thought it might be good if u can add like the same you did with quest for the toa but with maze of shadows game and the my lego network campaign, i saw it was canon too, what do you say?Well i know i had to put this before, so sorry, but i downloaded the complete compilation and it doesnt include the new epilogue of book 1And it seems Protection neither Thanks for catching those issues with the Complete collection! I think Google Drive got confused because I had 2 different PDFs with the same name (though I thought I'd deleted the old one). It should be fixed now. As for those videogames: Maze of Shadows is based directly on the book of the same name, and doesn't really have any story that isn't in the book (the only context it provides for Protection is showing that the Metru encountered Bohrok during their journey). The possibility of adding a story summary of the My Lego Network game was discussed a while back, and I decided against adding it since it doesn't add much to the story and doesn't seem enjoyable to read. Now that I'm doing the Complete/Standard editions, though, I might add it in the Complete version. I'll take another look at it and decide.