Laughing Man Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 sorry, gotta put on my punk snob hat for a minute wouldn't post-punk or art-punk cover that pretty well? "prog-punk" is kind of an oxymoron considering punk stylistically started as a rebellion against the overtly technical and progressive music that was becoming popular in the 1970s. it's literally the antithesis of prog in every possible way. "post-punk" as a term works though because it doesn't claim to actually be punk, but a style of music that takes elements of punk and adds a more experimental/progressive edge to it. even just "progressive rock" alone would make more sense since prog usually draws from a number of different styles without adhering strictly to any one of them, so punk could be included in that fusion without actually making the band punk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haecceity Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 sorry, gotta put on my punk snob hat for a minute wouldn't post-punk or art-punk cover that pretty well? "prog-punk" is kind of an oxymoron considering punk stylistically started as a rebellion against the overtly technical and progressive music that was becoming popular in the 1970s. it's literally the antithesis of prog in every possible way. "post-punk" as a term works though because it doesn't claim to actually be punk, but a style of music that takes elements of punk and adds a more experimental/progressive edge to it. even just "progressive rock" alone would make more sense since prog usually draws from a number of different styles without adhering strictly to any one of them, so punk could be included in that fusion without actually making the band punk.Yep, I'm aware of punk's origins- however, it is interesting to note that there are a fair number of proto-punk bands and influencers who also could fit in the progressive rock spectrum- notably, early DEVO- (which was very much proto-punk before they went new wave)- Peter Hammill is another interesting individual in this spectrum, exerting some influence on the Sex Pistols despite being a member of VdGG (which was highly prog.) He also wrote Nadir's Big Chance which is pretty close to a proto-punk release, if not one entirely. You can also see these crossovers in the music of the RIO (Rock In Opposition) scene- artsy progressive music delivered with a seething hatred of conventions and the establishment that culminated in some people actually treating RIO as a genre. Do I personally think the "pronk" label is particularly apt? Nah, it's a bit daft, but prevailing opinion associates it with the band, and I was only noting that classification. Quote If you found this text, know that Kevin isn't real. He's a fairy tale to scare children. Kevin. Is. Not. Real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Man Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 TIL David Bello from The World Is a Beautiful Place & I Am No Longer Afraid to Die is from my hometown also what's everybody been listening to lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Truant Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 never got into twibap but i really enjoy picture of a tree that doesnt look okay tbh i dont know how anyone doesnt like that song cuz when it reaches that crescendo and theyre like WHERE DO THE ECHOES FROOOOM THE ECHOES GOOOOO its bliss anyway, cool that hes from yr hometown (why dont we have a simple thumbs up, this vexes me) i have been listening to guided by voices a lot, as evidenced by the rate the song above you thread imo robert pollard is the best songwriter nobody knows about, hes put out hundreds upon hundreds of songs, and is still going. hes put out 2 gbv records this year, their catalog is intimidatingly expansive not all of it is good, gbv are really hit or miss but when they hit, they really hit its just good catchy fun punk rock prog pop (i know you guys just had a discussion about prog punk but he really likes genesis and his song structures are weird sometimes so i think its prog) Quote only in dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Man Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) I've been meaning to give Guided by Voices a proper shot. any particular album you'd recommend starting with? Edited June 1, 2016 by Serein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Truant Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) id start with their best-of, its what i did just because they have so many albums, and ol' bob's release 8 gbv records in the 13 years since the best-of's release...which came after 16 albums in the 15 years preceding it, and these numbers are just studio albums, there are 17 EPs that came out alongside these albums, there are splits, there are 3 box sets of 4 discs each, totaling 100 tracks per set... so going through their catalog is rather arduous with human amusements you get a good selection of what they can do, when they're not just playing with 4-track experiments and killing passable songs with bad production btw, everything before do the collapse is gonna be all lo-fi and sometimes just bad sounding like i said, theyre really hit or miss but there are so many songs that hit among the ones that don't, that its worth it to go through everything and find the gold Edited June 1, 2016 by Johnny Truant Quote only in dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Windrider- Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 I've been listening to the same old, really. I think I'm looking to expand my metal horizons since I don't know much about it. Recs for heavier stuff, maybe a little bit on the progressive side too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Truant Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 (edited) meshuggah, dawg Edited June 3, 2016 by Johnny Truant Quote only in dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Man Posted June 3, 2016 Author Share Posted June 3, 2016 (edited) I think I'm looking to expand my metal horizons since I don't know much about it. Recs for heavier stuff, maybe a little bit on the progressive side too? check out Katatonia. the new album The Fall of Hearts is their most progressive work yet and it's a great place to start. Baroness, Devin Townsend Project, The Gathering, Ihsahn, In the Silence, Novembre, Opeth, and Soen are a few other recs I can give just going through the prog metal tag in my library. Edited June 3, 2016 by Serein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Windrider- Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I think I'm looking to expand my metal horizons since I don't know much about it. Recs for heavier stuff, maybe a little bit on the progressive side too? check out Katatonia. the new album The Fall of Hearts is their most progressive work yet and it's a great place to start. Baroness, Devin Townsend Project, The Gathering, Ihsahn, In the Silence, Novembre, Opeth, and Soen are a few other recs I can give just going through the prog metal tag in my library. Hm, Katatonia sounds pretty excellent. Re: Meshuggah, I've tried them before, but I should probably give another listen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of Liars Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Crack the Skye by Mastodon is a fantastic progressive album, and pretty easy to get into as well. Definitely recommend giving it a try. If you're feeling a bit more adventurous, Ihsahn is responsible for some of the most incredible progressive and avant-garde metal out there. He also takes influence from classical music, which might me of interest to you (he even did a neoclassical sort of album called Somium under the name Thou Shalt Suffer). I definitely recommend checking out his album After, which is an amazing piece of avant-garde metal, with a great use of saxophone throughout. There's also The Adversary, which has a lot of that classical influence I mentioned, so I recommend that one too. And if you like those, then the rest of his stuff as well. Quote ___ ___ ___ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Man Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) been gettin into Thursday hard lately. not sure why it took me so long. I've always seen people debate whether they or Thrice are better. I've loved Thrice for years, but now that I'm getting into Thursday, I think I like their overall sound more tbh. hard to compare though since they went in totally different directions after their first few albums. even the stuff they did that was similar to one another had completely different vibes. I do know I like Geoff Rickly's voice and lyrics a lot more than Dustin Kensrue's though, as great as Dustin is. ended up ordering 5 of their 6 albums (the first, their debut, wasn't very good from what I heard). not a bad album in that stretch, but imo the crown jewel of their discography is the final album No Devolución. they pretty much transcend their post-hardcore roots with that album and deliver a mesmerizingly dark, atmospheric, experimental masterpiece. you can hear the roots of the more post-punk / alternative strain of music that Geoff is doing with his current main outfit No Devotion, except even darker and more melancholy with very little of the synthpop / new wave influence. really good album, nearly perfect tbh. I'd go so far as to call it the Disintegration of post-hardcore (Thursday never shied away from The Cure influences, with Geoff even being dubbed "the post-hardcore Robert Smith" early in the band's career). Edited June 13, 2016 by Serein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Truant Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 this song is weird and grating but i keep listening to it more and more often Quote only in dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Truant Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 i hope im not abusing the double post privilege but blink dropped a new single called no future and i hate it ditching tom "we don't call them aliens" delonge and bringing matt skiba into the fold was a big step in the right direction but jeez i could hear the pitch correction struggling with marks high notes in the bridge and it made me sad Quote only in dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarn Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 I just happen to check this topic out finally and WHADDYA KNOW the latest post mentions that there new Blink material which I JUST HAPPEN to have listened to some of recently. Have an injection of activity courtesy of me.As someone who has listened to like, half of it? Via their YouTube channel, I can say that I kinda like it actually. There's some iffy parts, and both joke songs are super vanilla and don't sound like Blink lyric-wise, just like a twelve-year-old trying to be Blink*, but the instruments are nice and I legit dig Teenage Satellite and Kings Of The Weekend. Then again, Kings Of The Weekend turns into Generic Pop-Punk™ halfway through so of course I'd enjoy it. San Diego was nice too, and apparently Patrick Stump had a hand in it so I might be biased there because if you tell me "a member of Fall Out Boy sorta glanced at this thing once" I will be all over said thing. That's why to this day my favorite Transit song is All Your Heart, and I have barely listened to Transit.But speaking of iffy parts yeah, Mark's vocals sound off at times. We finally got a new Blink record though now that Tom's gone....was it worth it, though?*but Built This Pool is legitimately catchy and Travis' "that was it?" at the end is great Quote [BZPRPG] (shout out to max) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Man Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share Posted July 24, 2016 Blink-182 has never been good except that one song with Robert Smith but that was just because of Robert Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarn Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Blink-182 has never been goodfight me also I legit can't remember what song they did with robert smith Quote [BZPRPG] (shout out to max) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Man Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share Posted July 24, 2016 "All of This" from the self-titled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I've been listening to quite a bit of Blind Guardian lately - mostly the four most recent albums, because I've been feeling sad about not actually owning those four albums. This leaves Follow the Blind as the only one of their albums I've literally never listened to. Beyond that... mostly pining for the Miracle of Sound albums I'm not in a position to buy yet. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Truant Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 ha, my last post was downing on their new album and im seeing them live in like a week but mostly cuz ADTR is gonna be there and im gonna get to hang out with some peeps i aint seen in a minute Blink-182 has never been good woah Quote only in dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarn Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) hey speakin of new materialnew adtr this august nevermind it got pushed back to Septemberbut hey they released a new song off of it today Edited July 26, 2016 by Tarn of the DJD Quote [BZPRPG] (shout out to max) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Man Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 Blink-182 has never been good woah sorry fam, it's The Truth not much for A Day to Remember either tbh but don't mind me guys, you have your fun and I'll just go fangirl over Thursday reuniting in the corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Truant Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) ayy thursday reunion, nice also i thought you dun did left made me sad tbh famslam Edited July 26, 2016 by Johnny Truant Quote only in dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Man Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 I think they said they won't be working on any new material but still. just the knowledge that Thursday is still an active band is comforting to me and I hope I can see them live someday sticking around a little while longer to take care of some things. also somewhat reconsidering my decision to leave, although either way my activity here will be reduced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarn Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 i've been meaning to get into thursday because they toured with coheed and cambria once and i liked understanding in a car crashshould i just start from their first album like i tend to do with bands nowadays or is there a specific album i should start off at? Quote [BZPRPG] (shout out to max) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Truant Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) I think they said they won't be working on any new material but still. just the knowledge that Thursday is still an active band is comforting to me and I hope I can see them live someday sticking around a little while longer to take care of some things. also somewhat reconsidering my decision to leave, although either way my activity here will be reduced nice ah i seewell whatever you do; all the best, dog edit: new adtr is pretty cool i guess, maybe it will grow on me Edited July 26, 2016 by Johnny Truant Quote only in dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Man Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 i've been meaning to get into thursday because they toured with coheed and cambria once and i liked understanding in a car crash should i just start from their first album like i tend to do with bands nowadays or is there a specific album i should start off at? their first album is kinda meh, but everything from their second album Full Collapse onwards is quality. their last album No Devolución is 5/5 GOAT material, definitely my favorite so yeah, start with Full Collapse and work your way from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarn Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 alright then, thanks edit: new adtr is pretty cool i guess, maybe it will grow on me it reminds me of a more refined and their name was treason, but i'm not fully into it either. maybe it's just because I was expecting it to sound more like common courtesy. Quote [BZPRPG] (shout out to max) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Man Posted July 27, 2016 Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 guysssss new Oathbreaker album Rheia has been announced. comes out two days after my birthday. best present ever and the single is fricking good https://oathbreakerband.bandcamp.com/track/needles-in-your-skin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evergrey: Toa of Music Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 What concerts has everyone here been to? Quote Other great bands: Iron Maiden Journey Mercenary The Unguided Trivium Boston Stratovarius Symphony X Epica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Uhhh, let's see.... Saw... somebody at a corn festival when I was a kid. Mighta been Kansas, but I can't be 100%. I don't count that one, but it was pretty good. Then there was a Led Zeppelin tribute band a few years back. They did a decent job, but they made some minor changes to the lyrics, which seems an odd decision. Went to a ton of instrumental concerts when I was in college. The percussion ensemble always put on a great show, and there was this one professor who played bass like it was a lead instrument. Good stuff. Saw Turisas and Firewind in 2012, really great show. Was about five or so feet from the stage, too, what with it being a pretty tiny place that cost like $20 to get in. Some drunk sasquatch tried to hug me, so that part was weird. Last one was Dead & Company, earlier this year. Got to the show late, but what I saw was really good, and there were a bunch of people throwing balloons. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evergrey: Toa of Music Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Cool! I've been to see Rush, Iron Maiden (with Coheed & Cambria opening), RED (with Shine Bright Baby opening), Sevendust (acoustic), Winter Jam (which had a bunch of bands, but I was only there for Skillet), and my most recent one was 4 bands: Westfield Massacre (new metalcore band, but pretty good, especially for an opening act), Like a Storm (who didn't fit in with the other bands soundwise; they were more hard rock while the others were all metal or at least really heavy), Trivium (best act of the night) and Sevendust (non-acoustic). I'd have to say the best two shows I saw were Iron Maiden and Trivium. I can't decide which I liked more honestly. Quote Other great bands: Iron Maiden Journey Mercenary The Unguided Trivium Boston Stratovarius Symphony X Epica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Man Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/08/slowdive-have-completed-recording-their-first-album-in-over-20-years/ I'm so happy I could cry rn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Truant Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 ^ What concerts has everyone here been to? oh geez im just gonna list them as i remember, and i wont remember all of them Rush x2The Gaslight Anthem x2Ted Nugentblink-182A Day To RememberTaking Back SundayThe MenzingersSaosin'68The Fall Of TroyFour Year StrongSlipknot x2AnthraxWhitechapelAndrew W.K.DescendentsThe SwordMunicipal WasteLess Than JakeNOFXBruce Springsteenfun.Pat GreenThe Wind And The WaveThe ReplacementsPearl JamModest MouseBrand NewMatt MaysToadiesQuiet CompanyBullet For My ValentineSylosisLamb Of God x2Nine Inch NailsSoundgardenFlogging Molly x2Skinny Lister thats about all i can remember, some of these were at the the same shows together, cuz festival lineups are weird sometimes Quote only in dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Man Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 Ted Nugentw h y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarn Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) Ted Nugentone of these things is not like the others~ one of these things just doesn't belong~ Edited August 9, 2016 by McCree 1 Quote [BZPRPG] (shout out to max) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Truant Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 because he was there it was a guitar show, i spent most of the day wandering around a convention center wishing i could buy everything but having no money cuz i was 15 and without employment plus i got to meet him and have a photo taken that i looked super awkward in cuz, you know, i was 15 so its not like i specifically went out of my way to go to a ted nugent concert Quote only in dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarn Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 still funny to see on a list that contains the likes of blink-182 and whitechapelalso i feel the part about wanting to buy everything at a guitar show but having no money a lot rn Quote [BZPRPG] (shout out to max) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Man Posted August 25, 2016 Author Share Posted August 25, 2016 guys. the legendary rapper Viper (of You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack fame) used some art that I made for him as the cover of his new album Long Live Tha Republic. I've never been so honored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarn Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 guys. the legendary rapper Viper (of You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack fame) used some art that I made for him as the cover of his new album Long Live Tha Republic. I've never been so honored i saw on tumblr. that's pretty sick. Quote [BZPRPG] (shout out to max) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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