Infection?

DeLaSouth · October 28, 2011

The only infection I can think of seeing in the humanoid MU, was Tahu getting his Hau poisoned by.. Kur-... Gah.. Something-rakh. are pathogens common to Magori & Toatorian? Like getting a common cold? Also, does the mechanicalness of the Magori & Toatorian prevent pathogen-access? Or does it mean they just get infected by mechanipathogens?

**Erebus** · October 28, 2011

Matoran, Toa, Glatorian, and Agori can all get diseases and viruses.

**Dorek** · October 28, 2011

We have seen varying types of infections, so it's hard to find any one root classification. The Dreaming Plague, for instance, wasn't a typical infection in that it wasn't a contagion, even though it all came from the same source. And infected masks (similar to Tahu's infected Hau Nuva) are obviously on Mata Nui, plus things like Visorak Venom and all that good stuff. Bara Magnians are organic, and I'm pretty sure Greg said that they were susceptible to normal types of viruses, so the answer is yes, there are plenty of ways to get "infected", just maybe not in the typical sense.

Akuna Toa of Sonics · October 28, 2011

Well, I don't really count infected masks as true infectious agents, since they are put on and removed easily. They're more like brain-controlling things.If you want an example of a pathogen, pit mutagen is one.

Toa of Nerds · October 28, 2011

Well, keep in mind that the toa and matoran are mostly mechanical, so I don't know if they would be really vulnerable to any sort of pathogens. The inhabitants of Bara Magna, however, probably are because they are mainly biological. This may require a PM to GregF, but I'm not sure if he will respond or not given his current condition with Lego's new social media policy. -don't touch my pocket protector

Lewa0111 Nuva · October 28, 2011

Yeah, Glatorian/Agori, as has been stated already, are just as susceptible to normal viruses/bacteria as any of us. MU inhabitants are another matter, though, and to be honest, I'm not entirely sure. Pit mutagen, Roodaka's spinner, and Visorak venom all seem to have effects on them, though, so who knows? And was Nokama's "infatuation" during Maze of Shadows caused by outside injury or by some kind of virus? If it's the latter, then I guess they can be infected...huh, I'll have to dig up a copy of that book again... :mirunu: Lewa0111 Nuva

Ids5621 · October 28, 2011

there was also the po-matoran plague caused by the comets on mata nui

Ghosthands · October 28, 2011

Yeah, Glatorian/Agori, as has been stated already, are just as susceptible to normal viruses/bacteria as any of us. MU inhabitants are another matter, though, and to be honest, I'm not entirely sure. Pit mutagen, Roodaka's spinner, and Visorak venom all seem to have effects on them, though, so who knows? And was Nokama's "infatuation" during Maze of Shadows caused by outside injury or by some kind of virus? If it's the latter, then I guess they can be infected...huh, I'll have to dig up a copy of that book again... Lewa0111 Nuva

Nokama was poisoned by the Rahi Nui's stinger. Nothing to do with pathogens. <div style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">

there was also the po-matoran plague caused by the comets on mata nui

Perhaps this was carried by the "viruses" that Makuta are so skilled at manipulating? And while we're on it, what exactly are the Makuta's "viruses"?</div> Edited October 28, 2011 by Ghosthands

a goose · October 28, 2011

Glatorian and Agori can get diseases. As far as I am aware, MU inhabitants can't.

Yeah, Glatorian/Agori, as has been stated already, are just as susceptible to normal viruses/bacteria as any of us. MU inhabitants are another matter, though, and to be honest, I'm not entirely sure. Pit mutagen, Roodaka's spinner, and Visorak venom all seem to have effects on them, though, so who knows? And was Nokama's "infatuation" during Maze of Shadows caused by outside injury or by some kind of virus? If it's the latter, then I guess they can be infected...huh, I'll have to dig up a copy of that book again... Lewa0111 Nuva
 Nokama was poisoned by the Rahi Nui's stinger. Nothing to do with pathogens. <div style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">
there was also the po-matoran plague caused by the comets on mata nui
 Perhaps this was carried by the "viruses" that Makuta are so skilled at manipulating? And while we're on it, what exactly are the Makuta's "viruses"?</div>

Never try to code a post. I did it with my sig, once. Not a good idea. Okay, I think I have made a successful translation:(quote 1)Nokama was poisoned by the Rahi Nui's stinger. Nothing to do with pathogens. (quote 2)Perhaps this was carried by the 'viruses' that Makuta are so skilled at manipulating?And while we're on it, what exactly are the Makuta's 'viruses'? I believe the Makuta's viruses are chemicals of some sort. And the Koli balls were 'infected' and, if I am correct, it is a canon fact that Infection is contagious. Which may, in fact, make it a disease... Edited October 28, 2011 by Pirok the Va-Matoran

Ghosthands · October 28, 2011

Glatorian and Agori can get diseases. As far as I am aware, MU inhabitants can't.

Yeah, Glatorian/Agori, as has been stated already, are just as susceptible to normal viruses/bacteria as any of us. MU inhabitants are another matter, though, and to be honest, I'm not entirely sure. Pit mutagen, Roodaka's spinner, and Visorak venom all seem to have effects on them, though, so who knows? And was Nokama's "infatuation" during Maze of Shadows caused by outside injury or by some kind of virus? If it's the latter, then I guess they can be infected...huh, I'll have to dig up a copy of that book again... Lewa0111 Nuva
 Nokama was poisoned by the Rahi Nui's stinger. Nothing to do with pathogens. <div style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">
there was also the po-matoran plague caused by the comets on mata nui
 Perhaps this was carried by the "viruses" that Makuta are so skilled at manipulating? And while we're on it, what exactly are the Makuta's "viruses"?</div>
Never try to code a post. I did it with my sig, once. Not a good idea.

I didn't, I typed it normally...

a goose · October 28, 2011

Glatorian and Agori can get diseases. As far as I am aware, MU inhabitants can't.

Yeah, Glatorian/Agori, as has been stated already, are just as susceptible to normal viruses/bacteria as any of us. MU inhabitants are another matter, though, and to be honest, I'm not entirely sure. Pit mutagen, Roodaka's spinner, and Visorak venom all seem to have effects on them, though, so who knows? And was Nokama's "infatuation" during Maze of Shadows caused by outside injury or by some kind of virus? If it's the latter, then I guess they can be infected...huh, I'll have to dig up a copy of that book again... Lewa0111 Nuva
 Nokama was poisoned by the Rahi Nui's stinger. Nothing to do with pathogens. <div style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">
there was also the po-matoran plague caused by the comets on mata nui
 Perhaps this was carried by the "viruses" that Makuta are so skilled at manipulating? And while we're on it, what exactly are the Makuta's "viruses"?</div>
Never try to code a post. I did it with my sig, once. Not a good idea.
I didn't, I typed it normally...

Unusual... Maybe check with the Staff?

Dralcax · October 29, 2011

Pit mutagan wasn't a disease as it was a specialized genetic poison that altered DNA to make the victim aquatic (Wait, do they have DNA?). Makuta Viruses are probably similar to antidermis in chemical structure, but of a different composition, with the exception of the Po-Wahi plague and the Zamor viruses, which actually were antidermis. I don't know about Nokama, and, keep in mind, Agori are more organic and therefore more suceptible to disease.

Kopekemaster · November 2, 2011

Bionicles being mechanical, wouldn't it have to be more like a computer virus (like they got "hacked" by Makuta?)?

Makuta Matata · November 2, 2011

That's why there's a Rahkshi of poison. It was Lehrak or something.... Well bottom line, they can be poisoned, it's not as common as it is among humans...

Ghosthands · November 2, 2011

Bionicles being mechanical, wouldn't it have to be more like a computer virus (like they got "hacked" by Makuta?)?

No. Being 'hacked' would imply that it is purely a mental issue. Infection is clearly physical as well, as it causes discolouration of the body and is contagious.And anyway, they are biomechanical. Cyborgs. Edited November 2, 2011 by Ghosthands

Maganar · November 4, 2011

Bionicles being mechanical, wouldn't it have to be more like a computer virus (like they got "hacked" by Makuta?)?
No. Being 'hacked' would imply that it is purely a mental issue. Infection is clearly physical as well, as it causes discolouration of the body and is contagious.And anyway, they are biomechanical. Cyborgs.

Additionally, it wasn't just armor discoloration and whatnot. In MNOG Hewkii is coughing and fatigued. It definitely affects the biological portion of their bodies as you said.

Mr. Anon1 · November 4, 2011

I'm surprised you guys haven't mentioned Ahkmou's poisoned Kohli balls or Lerahk's poison. I also think some of you are looking at the MU inhabitants as being completely mechanical, which isn't the case. They have biological lungs, muscle tissue, and possibly even a circulatory system, which is a lot of organic parts that can be infected.

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