That Matoran with a Vahi Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) So I was browsing Matoran on BS01 yesterday, and something just caught my attention. Apparently, it has been revealed recently that in MNOG 2, Ta-Matoran Nuri and Po-Matoran Kivi, who both wore Kaukau masks in the game as it was released in 2003, were actually planned to wear Komau masks instead: they only turned out the way they did due to a misspelling in the code. BS01 has embraced this fact and changed both Matoran's bios to say they canonically wore Komaus during their time on Mata Nui, however I'm not sure if I would share their stance. While I can kinda understand the initial intention behind making Hahli the only Kaukau wearer in the game for uniqueness' sake as the protagonist - and while I will grant that I don't remember any MNOG 1 Matoran wearing Kaukaus either - the fact remains that canon has recorded these two Matoran as wearing Kaukaus for two decades before this was revealed. Regardless of the initial intention, since it was never corrected in-game, I think it could alternately be considered that the canon that we got may take precedence over an intention that ultimately wasn't reflected in the product. But at this point it's really just a matter of personal preference, so I'm curious: What do you all think? Do you prefer these two Matoran as wearing Kaukau masks, as we've seen them for a long time? Or do you take Templar's initial intention as canon and like them better as Komau-wearers? No judgement either way, of course! I'm just still processing this fact so I wondered how other people felt about it too ^^ Edited April 3 by That Matoran with a Vahi 2 Quote "New legends awake, but old lessons must be remembered. For that is the way of the BIONICLE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confused piraka Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 well mnog 2 is semi cannon so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Inika Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I voted for Kaukau. It's been 20 years, for Mata Nui's sake. Death of the author, I say. I just looked at the new pictures on BS01, and they just don't look like those characters to me. Quote "You are an absolute in these uncertain times. Your past is forgotten, and your future is an empty book. You must find your own destiny, my brave adventurer." -- Turaga Nokama Click here to visit my library! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny7092 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) I go with “Kaukau” because they look like they are wearing them, and I want variety for the Matoran in the game. It’s reasonable that way. Edited April 2 by Lenny7092 Grammar fix. 1 Quote I like Lego, Bionicle, and Hero Factory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darknut Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) I'm split. The Kaukau feel right since it's what we've seen them wearing for so long. Feels kind of like the Hafu/Taipu mask situation in some ways, but with less important characters. However, I do feel conflicted on Nuri specifically, since a matoran in the Bohrok-Kal animation "Theft of Fire" matching the new Nuri appears in it. These animations came out before MNOGII, and a lot of the matoran from them later appeared in the MNOGII (i.e. Damek, Kalama, etc.), so the Nuri with a Komau from the web animations appearing again with the Komau in MNOGII would make more sense than the Kaukau. So yeah, I guess I'm down for the change to Nuri, but I'm less convinced on Kivi. He does wear a Komau in his Metru-Nui promo CD iteration though, which is less convincing since I don't think it was made by Templar and a couple other matoran in those change masks from their MNOG/MNOGII appearances. Edited February 23 by Darknut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TahnokTrapper Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Personally, I prefer both Matoran with Komaus, partly because I respect the initial intent, partly for consistency with other media and partly because I don't buy the idea that the Kaukau would be a widespread mask (it's highly specialised), especially with Matoran like Ta- or Po- who'd never dare go near water. That being said, I do agree with the sentiment that the Biosector pages shouldn't have been changed - there's no other piece of media showing 2003 era Nuri and Kivi with Komaus and you'd actually have to hack the game to change their appearance, so the Kaukaus are basically canon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Matoran with a Vahi Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 (edited) On 2/22/2024 at 11:30 PM, Darknut said: However, I do feel conflicted on Nuri specifically, since a matoran in the Bohrok-Kal animation "Theft of Fire" matching the new Nuri appears in it. On a personal level, I feel like that actually plays a part in why I'm being slow to adapt to the change; because as a kid, acting on the assumption that the Komau-wearing Matoran from that animation wasn't anyone significant because he didn't have a MNOG 2 match (that we knew of), in my own stories I established that guy as the face of my own Matoran character. As a result, I'm having trouble adjusting from thinking of him as such now that he has a real canon identity 🤣 That's very much just a thing that's personal to me though, of course! Edited February 24 by That Matoran with a Vahi Quote "New legends awake, but old lessons must be remembered. For that is the way of the BIONICLE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TahnokTrapper Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 16 hours ago, That Matoran with a Vahi said: On a personal level, I feel like that actually plays a part in why I'm being slow to adapt to the change; because as a kid, acting on the assumption that the Komau-wearing Matoran from that animation wasn't anyone significant because he didn't have a MNOG 2 match (that we knew of), in my own stories I established that guy as the face of my own Matoran character. As a result, I'm having trouble adjusting from thinking of him as such now that he has a real canon identity 🤣 That's very much just a thing that's personal to me though, of course! Funny, I felt similar about that black Komau wearing McToran - I didn't create any fanfics, but I did give him a name: Vatra. It wasn't until recently that I learned that was actually Nuri/Nuhrii. Speaking of fanfics, this whole debate on mask swapping is giving me an idea... 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confused piraka Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 2/25/2024 at 6:23 AM, TahnokTrapper said: Speaking of fanfics, this whole debate on mask swapping is giving me an idea. that can never be. bad thing coming from you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TahnokTrapper Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 20 hours ago, confused piraka said: that can never be. bad thing coming from you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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