Toa Lapaka Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 It has been long known that Matoran is a programming language, but my question is why are there two variations of it? The Metru Nui version and the Voya Nui version. Were they always that way, or did they slowly drift in form after the Matoran gain of Sentiency? Quote What are we searching for? Are we searching for anything or just randomly surfing the internet? I did that once. I found this bionicle fan site called bzpower. Whoever made it had no decorating sense what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 It has been long known that Matoran is a programming language, but my question is why are there two variations of it? The Metru Nui version and the Voya Nui version. Were they always that way, or did they slowly drift in form after the Matoran gain of Sentiency?There were two versions? Toa Inika communicated with Voyatoran just fine. Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Lapaka Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) It has been long known that Matoran is a programming language, but my question is why are there two variations of it? The Metru Nui version and the Voya Nui version. Were they always that way, or did they slowly drift in form after the Matoran gain of Sentiency?There were two versions? Toa Inika communicated with Voyatoran just fine.True, but they had two different styles of writing the language, which was the point I'm making. If it's a programming language, then why were there two distinct versions of it? Edited March 3, 2012 by Toa Lapaka Quote What are we searching for? Are we searching for anything or just randomly surfing the internet? I did that once. I found this bionicle fan site called bzpower. Whoever made it had no decorating sense what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffles Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) If I remember correctly, it was only the script that was different. Then it shouldn't matter, should it since they communicated orally?I don't know the canon explanation, but the only theory I can come up with is the same reason human scripts have changed over the years gradually. Since the hexagons turned to circles, I might actually make a conjecture that the Voya Nui script is older, and over time the hexagons turned to circles. It seems unlikely that a script would become more detailed and complex. Edited March 3, 2012 by Irreverend Morgan Freeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 It has been long known that Matoran is a programming language, but my question is why are there two variations of it? The Metru Nui version and the Voya Nui version. Were they always that way, or did they slowly drift in form after the Matoran gain of Sentiency?There were two versions? Toa Inika communicated with Voyatoran just fine.True, but they had two different styles of writing the language, which was the point I'm making. If it's a programming language, then why were there two distinct versions of it?If you're only talking about how the langauge is written, then likely doesn't have anything to do with programming. It has to do with writing styles - writing is a mark of people, not computers. People have unique handwriting; thus I would expect Matoran to as well, and the Mata/Voya difference is likely a regional difference in such styles. It's like our oral colloquial dialects, only in a written form. Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta Matata Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 If I remember correctly, it was only the script that was different. Then it shouldn't matter, should it since they communicated orally?I don't know the canon explanation, but the only theory I can come up with is the same reason human scripts have changed over the years gradually. Since the hexagons turned to circles, I might actually make a conjecture that the Voya Nui script is older, and over time the hexagons turned to circles. It seems unlikely that a script would become more detailed and complex.That makes sense. I'll go with that. Quote Three on Three - Memoirs of the Dead - Winner!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.B.O.C Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Well, the only difference is that one is in circles and the other is in hexagons, so I doubt it's a major difference, and it's more likely an artistic difference between tribes of matoran. Quote My Brickshelf, please don't copy!... ...Looking for shiny Regirock, Articuno, and Virizion!(Can trade most any legendary for them!)My 3DS friend list is full, sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wotz Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I imagine it as being like American and British English. Essentially, they're the same language, but written and occasionally pronounced differently.So basically, what I think is that they were originally the same, but because Voya-Nui was separated from the rest of the universe, it kept the old version and the main universe moved on as they became more and more independent.In fact, it's possible that other islands have different shapes for the writing, but we haven't seen them. Quote D U N E W O L F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa of Nerds Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Well, it's just like in the real world, people develop different ways of communicating. Even within the same language you see variations in spelling and writing (just take a look at the differences between written American English and written British English). Tire/tyre, check/cheque, center/centre, color/colour. It goes on and on even thought its the same word and pronounced the same.-don't touch my pocket protector Quote Three great comedies at one low, low price....NOTHING! Kicking the Bucket (archived)Three late-middle age matoran think of something they want to do before they kick the bucket. Choose Your Own Bionicle Adventure (archived)Navigate your way through a myriad of meaningless choices as you try to not make a fool of yourself in perhaps the only comedy ever written almost entirely in spoiler tags. Useless BZP Junk that you Must Have!!!Get to your phone, whip out your credit card, and prepare to buy some useless BZPower related junk that has no benefit on society except that you want it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Realistically, there were countless different versions of it as Matoran invented new things, so needed to come up with new words or repurpose old ones (probably usually mixing already accepted base components of words though, like prefixes and suffixes). This is mainly why there is a Kanohi Rau, Mask of Translation, after all.This is why I've theorized that the "stuff that can be programmed" (which seems to be protodermis) adapts over time to new meanings, including different writing styles, possibly by "reading the minds" of those who adapt the language, or at least the same way the Matoran/etc. learn new adapted forms (by extrapolating from context, known components, etc.). 1 Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Lapaka Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 But the thing is Matoran isn't simply another language, its a programming language, so is there a reason for two versions, or did it happen after the Matoran gain sentience? And if it happened after sentience, do the variations still have programmable value? Quote What are we searching for? Are we searching for anything or just randomly surfing the internet? I did that once. I found this bionicle fan site called bzpower. Whoever made it had no decorating sense what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dralcax Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I theorize that Voya Nui has harder rock because of geological variations between landmasses, and straight lines are easier to carve, so written language had a slight handwriting difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 But the thing is Matoran isn't simply another language, its a programming language, so is there a reason for two versions, or did it happen after the Matoran gain sentience? And if it happened after sentience, do the variations still have programmable value?No and no. I theorize that it happened after sentience, and that the difference has nothing to do with programming. I doubt that the GBs would care to program certain Matoran to write with circles and others to write with hexagons. Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 But the thing is Matoran isn't simply another language, its a programming language, so is there a reason for two versions, or did it happen after the Matoran gain sentience? And if it happened after sentience, do the variations still have programmable value?Almost certainly after, though other changes would be natural anyways, as they invented new things, mixed new powers, etc. Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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