The Cantina

[Toa Levacius Zehvor]

I'm... mostly done with the CIS profile I was working on. I've scraped the poor thing back and forth, trying to fine tune it to something I like. I'll post it whenever it's done, of course. But at least I finally settled on which blaster pistol I would use.

 

-Toa Levacius Zehvor

[otter]

Organic brain trumps droid body, though. After all, there's a reason he's called a cyborg.

Edited June 21, 2013 by Ilyusha Blokfase

[Madara: Mangekyou Master]

Call him a droid and you would likely be gutted.

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

That being said, of course, artificial intelligence is advanced enough for a droid to be a technically capable field commander.

[Havelock Vetinari]

Organics like to tell themselves pretty lies about creativity. Really, the only difference between a sentient droid and a sentient organic is a matter of hardware.

[otter]

And software, really, because if your hardware doesn't have the software for a sentient individual installed upon it, then there's nothing but an empty husk that can't do much.

[Havelock Vetinari]

And software, really, because if your hardware doesn't have the software for a sentient individual installed upon it, then there's nothing but an empty husk that can't do much.

 

I see you misread my statement. A shame really. A rather neat paradox, software is different for each being and thus, it is the same. For if everything is different, it is also the same by virtue of everything being uniform in that respect.

[Madara: Mangekyou Master]

I believe Ilya was saying that Grievous is not a general because he's a "droid." Personally, I'd rather not delve into the can of worms that is the droids vs. organics debate.

[otter]

 

And software, really, because if your hardware doesn't have the software for a sentient individual installed upon it, then there's nothing but an empty husk that can't do much.

 

I see you misread my statement. A shame really. A rather neat paradox, software is different for each being and thus, it is the same. For if everything is different, it is also the same by virtue of everything being uniform in that respect.

 

 

See, I thought you were talking hardware in the terms of something like, say, a computer's hard drive. xP

[Havelock Vetinari]

I believe Ilya was saying that Grievous is not a general because he's a "droid."Personally, I'd rather not delve into the can of worms that is the droids vs. organics debate.

 

Heh. Say that to the General's face.

[otter]

...Tell him he's not a general because he's a droid but instead because he's a good tactician and powerful combatant?

 

I fail to see how that would be insulting, seeing's how most cyborgs in the canon got mad when people said they were nothing more than droids.

[Madara: Mangekyou Master]

Call him a droid and you would likely be gutted.

That's basically a quote from me, Basil. I was responding to Lavama calling General Grievous mostly droid.So was Ilya. Edited June 21, 2013 by Madara: Mangekyou Master

[Havelock Vetinari]

Even implying it was possible for a brief second....heh. We all know what happened when the General woke up.

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

Hrmm.

 

You know, a Kaleesh that was still at the same age as a Jedi youngling or early Padawan at the time of the Kalee genocide might not even know it had happened, if they'd been 'recruited' by the Jedi before that point.

 

I'm sure the Jedi wouldn't be in a hurry to tell them.

[otter]

I just thought of something.

 

 

A rather neat paradox, software is different for each being and thus, it is the same. For if everything is different, it is also the same by virtue of everything being uniform in that respect.

 

That's a fallacy. It isn't uniform. The virtue of everybody's mind being different leads only to a simple similarity (in terms of the vast dissimilarity between how the minds work in terms of experience, upbringing, etc.), not any vast sameness or uniformity.Short version: Overall dissimilarity causes a small smilarity. No uniformity.

 

Meanwhile, Madara and I are simultaneously confusing each other.

 

This does not bode well.

Edited June 21, 2013 by Ilyusha Blokfase

[Havelock Vetinari]

How nice. I respectfully disagree.

[Madara: Mangekyou Master]

Hrmm. You know, a Kaleesh that was still at the same age as a Jedi youngling or early Padawan at the time of the Kalee genocide might not even know it had happened, if they'd been 'recruited' by the Jedi before that point. I'm sure the Jedi wouldn't be in a hurry to tell them.

We all know what happened. The Kaleesh were conspiring with the Dark Jedi to unleash a Dark Side super weapon that threatened to blow up another star system.

[Havelock Vetinari]

And we know it's true. Because Glorious Leader Mace Windu said so.

 

And only thought traitors think anything different!

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

Ah yes, of course. The Right Middle Toenail of Palpatine. I had forgotten.

 

And thus a young Kaleesh Jedi would feel some great burden to redeem themselves from the horrible crimes of their ancestors - would, doubtless, show a certain disdain for the traditions of their mostly-dead race.

[otter]

And we know it's true. Because Glorious Leader Mace Windu said so.

 

And only thought traitors think anything different!

 

I'm sorry, are we bringing thoughtcrime in here now?

 

Man, I wasn't looking for a 1984-inspired discussion topic.

[Havelock Vetinari]

Ah yes, of course. The Right Middle Toenail of Palpatine. I had forgotten.

 

And thus a young Kaleesh Jedi would feel some great burden to redeem themselves from the horrible crimes of their ancestors - would, doubtless, show a certain disdain for the traditions of their mostly-dead race.

 

A horrible weapon, why, Glorious Leader said it could kill a planet at half-power! Truly those vile thoughtraitors in the Confederacy must be mad!

[otter]

~It's starting to feel a lot like Airstrip One~

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

Let's see... The Toenail backfired sixteen years ago...

 

Hmm... I suppose even a Jedi that had actually seen action as a Padawan at the time would still have some chance of not knowing what really happened, yeah? It's not like Windu's reckless and batty enough to take the youngest, least-experienced fighters with him for a job like taking down the Most Evil Person In The Galaxy, who went by the name of Qui-Gon Jinn at the time.

[Havelock Vetinari]

Indeed. The filthy Dark Jedi, who, of course, burned a thousand worlds before Glorious Leader could stop him.

[otter]

Qui-Gon is now Goldstein, it seems.

[Lavama]

I think you're all crazy and Qui-Gon was one of the best leaders the CIS ever had.

 

Just gotta get this blaster thing down... Would it be possible the SE-14r light repeating blaster is in use today?

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

It apparently existed towards the end of the era marked on the wiki as the "Rise of the Empire" era, and is an upgrade of a weapon used by the CIS.

 

hmm... Given the current situation, it would probably be most politically expedient for them to produce this version for the Republic.

[Lavama]

That's the hard thing. I can't find many weapons that would fit outside of the Republican Doctrine that wouldn't be stupidly expensive. Maybe the SSK-7 heavy pistol?

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

aaah, you're trying to make a non-Republic character.

 

Well, the previous version of that blaster, the SE-14, was widely used as a sidearm by the CIS droid armies.

[Lavama]

One character done, one droid to go... This should be interesting.

[Makuta of Time]

Okay, I may have forgotten, but I may have posted a Jedi profile a few pages back. Also I probably did not read whether any GMs approved him. (That is, if I made one.

[Alex Humva]

So someone is possibly being eaten alive by a wild animal.

 

This RPG just continues to give me the warm and fuzzies.

[Lavama]

I know, right Lord Humva? It's all lovely Chaos for Khorne.

 

And then it turns out Kit Fisto is Scitus. (Or heck, Bane.)

[Havelock Vetinari]

I always had a fondness for Tzeentch myself.

[HeavyMetalSunshineSister]

Possibly? Ha. He's done like dinner.

 

Now, there are a few notes to be made.

 

-Cortosis, especially if you are not with the Republic, is not cheap.

-Force Lightning is not a common power.

-Force Wound is not a common power.

 

The profile that had those things in it was approved, earlier, due to inattention on the part of the staff. It is not a mistake we intend to repeat.

[Lavama]

I always had a fondness for Tzeentch myself.

You freak. You disgust the Blood Lord with your foolish fondness of a lack of Blood. At least you don't torture and go for the kill, unlike those... Things... (That'd I'd pretty much believe even mentioning their name here would earn a warning.) Almost done with the Geonosian Warrior's profile, and then a 'partner' droid that could be used for many reasons, including translation.

 

(Orks rule, btw)

 

EDIT: Oh look, a derailment in the topic. Oops. Uh, I've just gotta figure out which droid I want to choose. Maybe and more likely a B-1 or a B-2 more than anything.

Edited June 21, 2013 by Lavama

[Toa Levacius Zehvor]

-Cortosis, especially if you are not with the Republic, is not cheap.

-Force Lightning is not a common power.

-Force Wound is not a common power.

 

Thankfully, I did not utilize any of three with this profile.

 

Well, Basilisk, it took a very long time and over three-thousand words (making this the largest profile I have made yet and, if I'm correct, the largest in the RPG) not including the starship. But I finally went ahead and completed this thing.

 

Behold, in all its glory, Lieutenant William Snow in Service to the Navy of the Confederacy of Independent Systems, former Grey Paladin of the Jedi Order, born of Acherin; and his ship, the Grey Saber.

 

And yes, Ymper. I talk about the nose.

 

Name: Lieutenant William Snow

Species: Human

Gender: Male

Age: Forty-Nine [49] Standard Years

Faction: Confederacy of Independent Systems

Sympathies: Snow’s sympathies lie with his home planet of Acherin, and in particular the beautiful and ancient city of Eluthan where he was born. He feels some remorse for all soldiers, and despite his dislike of the Jedi, he still has some fondness for those who also count or, in his case, counted themselves as Grey Paladins. Similarly, he respects the Mandalorian warriors. He has no trust for the Sith, and believes they will eventually betray the CIS for their own gains; however, he recognizes a powerful ally when he sees one, and as such makes dealings with them when necessary.

Rank: Lieutenant, in Service to the Navy of the Confederacy of Independent Systems

Occupation: Lieutenant Snow is a special operations soldier in the service of the Confederacy of Independent Systems, trained to deal with combat situations in nearly every environment capable of maintaining human life, and many which aren’t. He is commonly placed in command of small-scale military operations, but can also handle missions either solo or with a very small group at his back. Before joining the CIS, Snow was a member of the Jedi Order and trained as a Grey Paladin; it is from this training that he has the greatest of respects for that branch of the Order (or, rather, the individuals within it) despite his opposition to the rest.

Skills: William Snow has been trained as a Grey Paladin and an officer of the CIS, with nearly five decades of training behind him due to the young age at which Jedi begin. As such, he has developed a number of skills reflecting all of these years of experience –

• He possesses an intensive knowledge of each Lightsaber form (excluding Vapaad and a few more unorthodox techniques). Despite this, he his no master bladesman, and the only form which he has personally practiced is Shii-Cho; what his knowledge can be applied to, however, is the ability to recognize and find the counter to virtually every form. He is actually more adept at using real swords in combat than using a lightsaber, though the technique is still quite similar.
• His primary weapons training, which he has dedicated years of his life to, is that of wielding twin blaster pistols at once; using a singular one isn’t out of the question, and nearly any blaster is a deadly weapon in his hand, as he is a master marksman.
• A major aspect of his training was learning the unarmed combat form Teräs Käsi from his masters. However, despite the number of Jedi with knowledge of the technique, he found the training inadequate and developed a few of his own techniques, though none as skillful. Upon exiting the Jedi Order, he earned the trust of a few Followers of Palawa and had his training completed in the many aspects unknown to most Jedi.
• More so, years of training have made him an expert of military tactics, and he can maintain his cool in almost any situation. He understands how to pilot most simple star fighters.

Force Abilities: Trained as a Grey Paladin as part of his own choice, Snow maintains a very limited use of the force. He never manifests it in the form of techniques such as telekinesis or attempting to alter the minds of others, but instead by honing his own skills; much in a way very similar to Force Valor. He is capable of using the force for purposes such as deflecting and bending other blaster bolts with his own, or moving with increased precision and skill in melee. Enhanced senses aren’t out of the question either. Constant practice in all of these areas has made it an almost constant effect (these are, after all, the only force abilities he can practice).

Equipment: Snow operates using a set of Zeison Sha Warrior armor, with armorweave used underneath the armor and as a component to the robes part. The armor itself has a slight layer of Phrik metal built into it to make it more resilient to attack. He also has a helmet crafted of similar materials, which appears very similar to those of the Mandalorians. He also carries his own personal sword, an officer’s saber crafted from the rare metal known as songsteel and given to him as a gift by his superior officer. He cherishes the weapon greatly, but rarely actually employs it; generally, it stays at his waist, and is drawn only for ceremony or dire emergency. His primary weapon to actually draw in combat is a pair of heavily modified Model 434 blaster pistols, also known as “DeathHammers” to most users. The weapon has a small scope added as an attachment, and is also modified to be of the disruptor type. The increased amount of blaster gas required when the weapon is fired comes into effect in that a cell which would provide one hundred uses for a normal weapon of this type provides merely twenty. He keeps a spare, unmodified pistol of the same type alongside these two, in case he is caught up in a situation where stunning an adversary becomes necessary. This particular pistol is an older model than the other two; it is the same weapon that he employed as a Jedi Knight.

Appearance: William Snow stands at a height of six foot three, being well above average height for a human if of an inferior size to many large sentients in the universe. He has a rather imposing demeanor, as expressed in his gait; he moves with a militaristic sense about him at all times, moving with long strides and in an erect position conveying authority. Despite this, he never seems to be stressed or tense; rather, he is incredibly fluid about his movements and seems relaxed at all times.

Snow has a receding hairline with thin traces remaining of his once black hair, which has begun graying and in many parts is no longer present. He has retained a clean shaven state, doing so out of practicality but expressing a desire to eventually change that upon his retirement from more common use of his helmet. His eyes are green, and show a sense of weariness from having seen so many years of constant war in his lifetime. Above them, he has thick (and still mostly dark) eyebrows. His face, that aside, is rather well shaped and certainly not malnourished, with a largish and rather dull pointed nose and ears which stick out a bit too the side. He has numerous lines across his face, and almost never seems to be smiling.

Snow’s armor is that of the Zeison Sha warrior, and as such is a practical combination of robes and armor primarily of a grey color (particularly on the more heavily armored areas) and with a secondary coloration of purple and, along the neck, blue. The armor has virtually no impact on his movements, due to being so used to it and due to its design being specifically to prevent any hampering to force abilities.

At his waist, Snow keeps his songsteel saber in a black sheathe alongside his left hip. He displays all three of his pistols alongside holsters at his hip; one adjacent to the saber, while the other two are on the right side. He keeps one disruptor on each side, towards the front.

When faced, Snow has a rather worn down and almost regretful appearance that is betrayed by an intensive fire in his eyes. He speaks in a commanding and authoritative voice; his voice is naturally loud, and is hard to lower down. As such, when it comes to stealth, he simply prefers to be quiet.

Personality: The idea of a “Dark Jedi” conjures up many things in the imaginations of those who subscribe to the Republic’s corrupt propaganda machine. The concept of a dark robed figure, carrying a red-bladed lightsaber and choking the life out of the helpless is the first to jump in the minds of most; a just barely more humanized version of their views of the Sith. The accusation that William Snow is a Dark Jedi is not a new one, and one that he finds rather amusing.

Rather than some form of war or source of power, Snow simply wants there to be peace in the galaxy. Whether this by order or chaos; stability or revolution, it matters not. What matters is a lasting peace, particularly for his home world of Acherin. It is to this goal which he has dedicated his life. He cares greatly about his family, friends, other loved ones, and any soldiers or ally placed under his command.

Snow possesses an almost intrepid boldness that allows him to undertake even dangerous operations. He will rarely put others in danger by doing so, but becomes more careless when other sentient lives are on the line. Despite this, he is a pragmatic and rather thoughtful man who keeps a calm and even temper, remaining calm at all times (despite his often booming voice).

He is rather by-the-books, and has high expectations that military protocols are followed. At the end of the day, though, what matters most is doing what was right morally. More than logic, more than emotions, more than protocol, more than anything else, he is a man drawn to do what is morally right. It is for this reason that he retired from the Jedi Order – because he could no longer follow the path they set before him.

His sense of humor is hard to define, because he seems to have lost most of it from all of the mounting years of war. There are, after all, many things far more important.

He is a strong believer in the living force. His philosophy is similar to most Grey Paladins – that the Force suffuses all things, granting them life, and being just as important as air or sleep. However, rather than a means to an end, it is a way to influence daily lives. Thus, he believes that skills should be developed with a minimum dependency upon it. He often spends time in mediation (of a non-floating variety, obviously) when given the opportunity, and in need of a calming moment.

He is easily influenced when the lives of others are endangered; during such situations, it is common to see heavy changes in even things as simple as his facial expression, as he becomes more intense and focused on the task before him. He is also a bit too loyal to the defense of his comrades, and a hostage situation involving such people is one of the ones which he is least equipped to deal with. Many have said his heart is too soft; some have tried to exploit this; few have been prepared for the rage unleashed from the normally calm man in these situations.

Home Planet: Acherin

History: Twenty-nine years before the Clone Wars had begun, William Snow was born to the noble family of Nicholas Snow and Ellis Snow (as he discovered later) in the ancient city of Eluthan, on the world of Acherin. A number of complications meant that the Jedi Order never learned of his condition until he was around the age of four, at which point he was almost too old to begin the training. Nevertheless, the Jedi came, and his family was none too happy of the results. William remembers very little of the time; all he recalls were vague memories of the faces of his family members, and the wondrous beauty of the ancient city. His return trips since have always nailed that in; to him, nowhere in the galaxy is more beautiful or precious.

His training began almost immediately, as he was already of the needed maturity to begin as an Initiate. Possessing a rather high midichlorian count, and being a natural learned, Snow quickly exceeded the expectations of his instructors and was projected to develop into a powerful wielder of the Force. To the disappointment of many, he found himself disconnected from such matters; what interested him greatly was that of the order known as the Grey Paladins, whose lessons and teachings inspired him greatly to focus more on himself, and less on trying to understand the Force.

As he entered his teenage years, Snow was made a Padawan, and chosen by a Jedi Master from the Grey Paladins named Leydon Hall, who taught him nearly everything he knew about combat. Unlike other Masters, however, he also encouraged Snow to learn from other sources. For this reason, Snow commonly found himself training with fellow Padawans and practicing combat techniques, whilst also honing his connection to the force to being just that, rather than manipulating it in the more dramatic and flashy ways of many other Jedi.

He was also taught to shoot from an early age, being shown by his Master at around the age of fifteen and exceeding him by twenty. Snow had, at that point, had almost no contact with his family since his early childhood; oftentimes, though, he would find himself regretting them. He began to view Hall as more of a grandfather than anything else, and was almost completely devoted to his master. The two often went on missions off-world to investigate matters of a more military nature, and Hall showed Snow how to cope in almost any environment.

Eventually, Snow began to express a desire to meet his family once more. Hall made a promise to him that once had become a Jedi Knight, this would be allowed. He was knighted only three months following that, and Hall (without permission of any kind from others) took Snow for that exact matter. Needless to say, the entire ordeal was one which brought tears to his and his families eyes upon their being reunited. It also brought about the wrath of the Jedi Council, who severely punished Hall for his reckless actions; being a Grey Paladin, which carried a certain stigma about it, did nothing to help matters. The damage had been done, however – Snow had met his family, and was now in contact with them and quite happy to be so. As the actions performed were not strictly his fault, he only received slighter reprimands and warnings from his superiors.

At the age of twenty-nine, Snow was a Jedi Knight fighting in the Clone Wars against the Confederacy of Independent Systems. His communications with his family were nearly completely cut off when Acherin became part of the CIS, something which he regretted immensely. As Jedi such as Qui-Gon left the Order, Snow greatly desired too as well; however, he was unable to bring himself to such actions, out of a sense of duty to guard the peace and security of the galaxy, and stand alongside his Master (who still stood with him almost constantly, having never taken on another Padawan since).

This continued for about nine years, until eventually, Leydon Hall was killed. The exact means of his death are still unconfirmed; all that is known is that his nearly destroyed body was recovered after a major battle. Snow grieved the loss of his former master, and for a time directed his rage at both the Jedi Council and the Confederacy. After years passed, however, a particular mission arose – he was to assist in direction forces that were going to capture Acherin.

It was at that point which William Snow, one decade into the war, turned against the Jedi Order and revealed the plans to the Confederacy post on the planet, along with giving his parents warning in a rather dangerous gambit. Out of respect for the soldiers onboard, he gave the Republic a coded warning onboard their ship – to leave the planet before they were defeated. It was simply ignored, and the attack was made. That particular battle in the skies above Acherin was lost in a minor victory for the CIS.

For close to five years, Snow followed a few holocrons left by Hall about locations he had travelled to and learned about a group of other force sensitives who might grant some refuge, if he were to prove himself not part of the Jedi. These were Zeison Sha, a fiercely independent organization who had long ago branched away from the Jedi. He travelled to the planet Yanibar, and after some time eventually found a group willing to offer him sanctuary, as long as he was willing to assist. He spent a rather long time on the island, training and even having somewhat of a fling with one of the girls on the planet (as he was no longer bound by the Jedi rules and regulations). He left the planet wearing the armored robes of the Zeison Sha, and with additional training at his back. However, he felt one more bit was needed, now that he was no longer part of the order – travelling to the world of Bunduki and completing his training in Teräs Käsi under the instruction of the Followers of Palawa. This was task which proved even more difficult, as though he was quite skillful compared to other Jedi, he was a mere novice compared to the true masters of the art. Nevertheless, he learned most of what he needed, and it was at that point he received a communication from his parents – a desperate offer for him to return.

And so he did, returning to his home city for the final time. Much of the once beautiful, ancient city had been decimated by a Republic bombardment to deal with the rebellious natives. His father, it turned out, had been killed. The battle had been won again, but much harder and more costly than before. At that time, William Snow decided that he could no longer stand idly by while the native of his home were giving up their lives. He went to join the Confederacy of Independent Systems.

The Sith sent a few offers for him to join; Snow, however, did not feel that any group going by that name could be fully trusted, Republic propaganda or not – let history tell that story. His skills and knowledge of military expertise allowed him to gain the rank of warrant officer rather rapidly, and eventually he was promoted to ensign. For the most part, he has served onboard ships and been deployed as an elite operative alongside ground based units in circumstances where his combat expertise has been needed. He has generally been given command of units in such situations, of course. In the most recent of times, he has served aboard one of the few ships of Acherin origin; a battleship known as the Ancient Glory.

The most telling story that William has from his time doing this is his meeting with his superior officer for much of his time in service, Commander Gregory Hammond (later Captain), a non-force sensitive soldier and gentleman warrior who had been fighting for the confederacy since the war began. William came to respect Hammond as much as he had Hall, if in a more professional way. Hammond was nearly killed in a particularly heavy battle involving a number of attacking Jedi, with the two of them being the only ones present besides a few (easily destroyed by the Jedi) droids. In the ensuing, more deadly firefight that followed those first few Jedi infiltrating the front lines, Hammond suffered further injuries whilst personally leading a small group of fighters. His ship was badly damaged as well. As Hammond lay dying later, he called Snow beside him. He gave the younger warrior his officers saber and told him, “save the Confederacy, whatever it takes,” before dying.

Presently, he has just recently been promoted to the rank of lieutenant, and is reaching the end of his very short break of shore leave back on the planet of Dathomir. He is awaiting any further orders to be presented to him by his superiors.

 

Ship Name: Grey Saber

Model: NovaSword Space Superiority Fighter

Function: The Grey Saber is a starfighter first and foremost, and a good one at that. The craft is nimble and quite powerful, possessing high speed and maneuverability, along with fair shields and an internal hyperdrive. It has enough space for a pilot and one passenger, who can also be a co-pilot if need be.

Weapons: The Grey Saber possesses two laser canons, and can also deploy medium-sized concussion missiles; it holds enough space for three of them.

Modifications: The Grey Saber has a grey color scheme with a secondary of purple, in contrast to the common of red and white. The titular saber is painted as a model of William Snow’s own sword across the front part of the ship.

Background: The Grey Saber has been with Snow for a very long time, and besides his sword is one of his most prized possessions. Unlike the sword, though, the Saber is undoubtedly and has always been his. The Grey Saber has seen a lot more use in recent years, where the Confederacy has been forced to perform more hit-and-run operations that require quick moving ships.

 

-Toa Levacius Zehvor

[Makuta of Time]

Okay, I think I got it, but just to be sure, can you repeat it all again. (You get that quote)

 

So about my jedi character?

[Lavama]

I look at these and realize my profiles are just not that good... Fun.

 

EDIT: Oh look at the time time to go to bed. Night.

Edited June 21, 2013 by Lavama

[Alex Humva]

Don't worry too much about it, Lavama. My profiles continue to be minimalistic and people only quietly mutter about them. Rover, mind you, does not count as a people. Three thousand word profile. An impressive achievement. Doesn't look like three thousand words but eh. I do have to say though...Challenge accepted.