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#241 Offline Iron_Man5

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Posted Jul 25 2014 - 05:10 PM

I'm a little confused, however, about his response to the Toa Hagah question -- can I get a second opinion on what he means? Did they have those masks as Matoran, or as pre-Hagah Toa?

He's saying the mask powers they have now, they had matoran versions of them. After they became toa hagah, they were given new masks with different shapes, but with the same powers (take Norik's for example)


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Posted Jul 26 2014 - 02:31 AM

Does that mean that Zyglak are made of protodermis, and that protodermis can destroy itself? Weird. 

I'm not sure what you mean about destroying themselves or it being weird, but yes, they're made of protodermis, like "everything", including Krana (and since they're made accidentally by the same process that made Krana...).


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Posted Jul 26 2014 - 05:10 AM

 

Does that mean that Zyglak are made of protodermis, and that protodermis can destroy itself? Weird. 

I'm not sure what you mean about destroying themselves or it being weird, but yes, they're made of protodermis, like "everything", including Krana (and since they're made accidentally by the same process that made Krana...).

 

She's saying that it's weird that they're made from protodermis, yet they carry a disease that destroys organic protodermis, (even though for some reason they're not affected.)


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Posted Jul 26 2014 - 11:13 AM

She. And I figured, but I don't like to put words in people's mouths. The explanation is simple -- they have an immunity to the disease, and only they have that immunity. That isn't weird -- normal-matter beings in real life often have immunities to diseases they can be carriers of, without needing to be made of a totally different type of matter. :P


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Posted Jul 26 2014 - 01:32 PM

That's not what I said, actually. :P I was observing that Zyglak disease is now protodermic, and protodermis can be made to destroy itself on a molecular level: protodermis can attack itself. (Just like real life matter, apparently...) I tend to think matter differences play a bigger role in the Bionicle universe, with destruction being associated with antidermis, so this makes proto a bit more normal. :shrugs:   

 

Although it's not confirmed whether the disease can be revived along with the Zyglak, so I guess I shouldn't be jumping to conclusions. This probably means that Krana can be revived, but we already knew that.  


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Posted Jul 26 2014 - 01:38 PM

Hmm... Zyglak on the Red Star. That's fodder for a Bionicle thriller.


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Posted Jul 28 2014 - 09:53 AM

Ooh, now there are some interesting tidbits in this post...

 

1. Greg seems to be coming around to the idea that Lesovikk's team may have been disintegrated. However, he's sticking to "if" phrasing for now, and hasn't confirmed it. (He also reinforced some details about who gets revived and who doesn't.)

 


 1) Could you confirm whether ot not the remainder of Lesovikk's team is on the Red Star?

1) If they were disintegrated, as seems likely, then they could not be revived because there needs to be a body to teleport.

 

2. Velika made sure to kill Karzahni and Tren Krom in gruesome ways to cause fear and panic.

 

 

 

6) Kopaka made a point in The Powers That Be that the murders of Karzahni and Tren Krom were especially gruesome, as if their was a meaning behind it or a hidden clue. Can you say what that was?

6) Yes. Velika was looking to cause fear and panic, which he would then position himself as the person to quell.

 


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Posted Jul 28 2014 - 11:24 AM

Bs01 mentions that Su-Matoran have resistance to bright light, not heat resistance.

So which is it?

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Posted Jul 28 2014 - 11:27 AM

Bs01 mentions that Su-Matoran have resistance to bright light, not heat resistance.

So which is it?

 

It's both. The bright light was the original ability mentioned by Greg, and more recently, some LMB posters convinced him that it didn't make sense for them not to have heat resistance.

 

I thought I changed all the relevant pages to include both resistances. Where did you read that they only have resistance to bright light? That needs to be fixed.


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Posted Jul 28 2014 - 11:31 AM

Oh, I happened to check about Su-Matoran like two weeks ago on BS01. I just checked it after your post and it's already been fixed.

Sorry about the confusion, I was hasty to post before checking.

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Posted Jul 28 2014 - 01:58 PM

At long, long last, we finally have a resolution to the First Toa Team conundrum: they were disintegrated.

 

 

 

Did the Zyglak disintegrate Lesovikk's team?

Since they were armed with weapons that disintegrate, it would make sense that they used them, so yes.

 

On one level, it's a shame that these characters are permanently dead. But I'm pleased to have this loose end finally wrapped up, because the alternate explanation was utterly ridiculous.

 

*simultaneous rejoicing/mourning*


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Posted Jul 28 2014 - 02:16 PM

Yay! Logic has won!

 

*realizes he's cheering deaths... is officially disturbed lol*

 

I mean... that is so sad! :P

 

*goes off to add another clarifying note to retelling version...* (Thankfully the way I wrote it, it won't need changed, heh.)

 

Of course, it is possible the Toa could dodge the spears and die some other way, but the "hesitated an instant" part for Lesovikk strongly implied sudden deaths, and making a wind a split second earlier to blow the spears away would fit well what he would know he should have done.


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Posted Jul 28 2014 - 09:45 PM

At long, long last, we finally have a resolution to the First Toa Team conundrum: they were disintegrated.

 

 

 

Did the Zyglak disintegrate Lesovikk's team?

Since they were armed with weapons that disintegrate, it would make sense that they used them, so yes.

 

On one level, it's a shame that these characters are permanently dead. But I'm pleased to have this loose end finally wrapped up, because the alternate explanation was utterly ridiculous.

 

*simultaneous rejoicing/mourning*

It feels strange to be cheering the fact that the entire first Toa team (barring Lesovikk) is dead, but I have to admit, that was what I wanted. Any other explanation made little sense, and this way the emotional power of Lesovikk's guilt and tragedy remains intact. Good call, Greg.

 

 

 

Ooh, now there are some interesting tidbits in this post...

 

1. Greg seems to be coming around to the idea that Lesovikk's team may have been disintegrated. However, he's sticking to "if" phrasing for now, and hasn't confirmed it. (He also reinforced some details about who gets revived and who doesn't.)

 


 1) Could you confirm whether ot not the remainder of Lesovikk's team is on the Red Star?

1) If they were disintegrated, as seems likely, then they could not be revived because there needs to be a body to teleport.

 

2. Velika made sure to kill Karzahni and Tren Krom in gruesome ways to cause fear and panic.

 

 

 

6) Kopaka made a point in The Powers That Be that the murders of Karzahni and Tren Krom were especially gruesome, as if their was a meaning behind it or a hidden clue. Can you say what that was?

6) Yes. Velika was looking to cause fear and panic, which he would then position himself as the person to quell.

 

 

Those were my questions. You could tell from the first one I was trying to solve the First Toa Team question, But Greg still avoided confirming it then  :P   

 

The reason I asked the third question was to determine whether people like Guardian or Sidorak would still be alive, since it's highly possible their heads were destroyed. In my original post I actually explicitly asked him if the aforementioned two were revived in that same question, but he edited it out when he answered :P  Unless the "no" is for that too? I don't know.


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Posted Jul 29 2014 - 09:55 AM

There seems to be some misunderstanding about my answer. Let me clarify:

1) Back when we were doing BIONICLE comics, they were on the same production schedule as the magazine. So when I say we are working on the first issue for 2015, I am referring to LEGO Magazine and LEGO Club Jr. magazine.


2) We are not currently working on a BIONICLE comic.


Gah. So there's no Bionicle comic.

On the other hand, he did not explicitly state that Bionicle is not returning... Look at the second question's answer.

Hm.........

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Posted Jul 29 2014 - 11:00 AM

They are not currently working on BIONICLE comics....


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Posted Jul 29 2014 - 04:29 PM

Also see here
 

coolcab1 wrote:
Hi Greg I have one more question
1) are the Great Beings just gonna stay hidden and also can a Great Being be killed
Thanks for answering wink.png

1) At this point, the original story is not moving forward, so yes
2) Yes

 
And here's something for a recent discussion: 
 

Shougun70 wrote:


ToaFeron wrote:
hi, Mr. Farshtey! i had a question- in bionicle, did Hewkii and Macku have an intimate relationship? i ask this because i have always believed that they did, and i just wanted some confirmation.
 
                 thank you very much for your time,
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In MNOG, the Bohrok Animations, and MNOGII, Maku and Huki have what is clear as day love for each other. Since then, however, Greg ruled their relationship uncanon, stating that beings in the MAtoran Universe are incapable of love beyond that of a friend caring about a friend (despite the fact that these two "friends" nearly kissed). I would like to ask why you decided to make it non-canon after it being canon for years.


Simple. What was in the online  games was not approved by the story team, nor was there ever anything in story bibles saying these characters had this relationship. So it was not "canon." It was done to add some characterization into the game, but logically it made no sense, so I felt no obligation to maintain something that was illogical.


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Posted Jul 29 2014 - 06:50 PM

 

 

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6) Organic protodermis (abbreviated as OP) technically isn't actually organic matter, right? As far as we know, OP:

-Does not require nutrition, only "energy" 

-Regenerates far more quickly, than actual organic tissue, as indicated by the Toa Mata

-Does not have a cellular structure, as indicated by the MU inhabitants' lack of a circulatory system

-Can seamlessly assimilate mechanical structures such as gears and pistons into their framework

Therefore, isn't "Organic" protodermis simply protodermis mimicking biology, rather than actually being it? 

 

6) Yes, I can see that

 

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Posted Jul 29 2014 - 09:11 PM

Thank you to fishers64 for asking these questions in my stead (I have been having technical difficulties with logging on to the LMB, but I intend to have them fixed soon). The following information is of note to me:

 

1. The Toa Hagah wore the same masks as Matoran.

 

 

 

1. Re-asking for clarification: did the Toa Hagah wear the same masks as Matoran? (e.g. did Norik wear a Pehkui, did Iruini wear a Kualsi, etc.)

1) Yes

 

2. The Brotherhood of Makuta did not practice execution by disintegration.

 

 

 

2. This is a record-keeping question for BS01. Our lists have a lot of miscellaneous Toa, Matoran, etc. who were killed by the Brotherhood of Makuta (for example, the Nynrah Ghosts who sabotaged the Fohrok, and various Toa they’ve killed). The Red Star reveal causes me to wonder: did the Brotherhood usually carry out execution by disintegration, thus meaning the characters killed by them are deceased and not revived? Or were they less thorough?

2) Less thorough. Once you have been killed by a Makuta, it is not an experience you want to repeat, so you tend to be more circumspect

 

I also tried to resolve that whole mess with the revival device in Mask of Light, and tried to confirm that Miserix created the Kanohi Dragon, but unfortunately, Greg didn't have answers for either of those questions. Oh, well.


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Posted Jul 30 2014 - 12:32 AM

Greg's response concerning the Brotherhood's executions is odd, to say the least. So the Brotherhood's reasoning was: "We want to put an end to troublesome activity by our enemies, so let's kill them in an excruciatingly painful manner, which will nonetheless allow for their revival. That way, they won't want to die at our hands again, and will hopefully stay out of trouble."

 

Surely a non-reversible execution would preclude beyond all doubt repeated trouble-making by the executed enemy?


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Posted Jul 30 2014 - 01:04 AM

Greg's response concerning the Brotherhood's executions is odd, to say the least. So the Brotherhood's reasoning was: "We want to put an end to troublesome activity by our enemies, so let's kill them in an excruciatingly painful manner, which will nonetheless allow for their revival. That way, they won't want to die at our hands again, and will hopefully stay out of trouble."
 
Surely a non-reversible execution would preclude beyond all doubt repeated trouble-making by the executed enemy?


The question did say "did the Brotherhood usually carry out execution by disintegration". Maybe Greg took that part literally? And disintegration would still be used when they actually did want to remove the threat beyond all doubt?


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Posted Jul 30 2014 - 02:08 AM

The question did say "did the Brotherhood usually carry out execution by disintegration". Maybe Greg took that part literally? And disintegration would still be used when they actually did want to remove the threat beyond all doubt?

 

But surely the usual purpose of execution is to quell crime or dissent? If the Brotherhood did not want to remove the threat beyond all doubt, why bother killing them? If the purpose was to make an example whilst not permanently killing the prisoner, why grant him a reprieve from his suffering by temporarily killing him and sending his body to be repaired or replaced on the Red Star?

On a side note: What is BS01's basis for saying that Gaardus' transformation occurred "Over 80,000 years ago?"


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Posted Jul 30 2014 - 02:22 AM

But if in fact they knew originally that it wasn't permanent, then it wouldn't be execution in the sense that we mean by that term in real life. :) We, too, have degrees of punishment. But we're also not evil beings who like to torment people and then let them go... I can definitely see Makuta doing that.


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Posted Jul 30 2014 - 04:42 AM

On a side note: What is BS01's basis for saying that Gaardus' transformation occurred "Over 80,000 years ago?"


That comes from this quote from the old OGD:

Do you know approximately how many years ago Gaardus was mutated by the Nynrah Ghosts?

Quite a long time ago, actually. Pre-Barraki rebellion


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Posted Jul 30 2014 - 06:10 AM

 

Greg's response concerning the Brotherhood's executions is odd, to say the least. So the Brotherhood's reasoning was: "We want to put an end to troublesome activity by our enemies, so let's kill them in an excruciatingly painful manner, which will nonetheless allow for their revival. That way, they won't want to die at our hands again, and will hopefully stay out of trouble."
 
Surely a non-reversible execution would preclude beyond all doubt repeated trouble-making by the executed enemy?


The question did say "did the Brotherhood usually carry out execution by disintegration". Maybe Greg took that part literally? And disintegration would still be used when they actually did want to remove the threat beyond all doubt?

 

 

I'm quite sure they used disintegration every so often...

"The challenge of being a Makuta is choosing which powers to use to destroy your enemies. It gets boring using the same ones all the time. Variety is the spice of destruction, after all."

— Makuta Antroz, Shadows in the Sky

Just a hunch though.... :)


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