Toa Zaz

Pulp Fiction.

I hope you don't mean Greg, because he has a very young infant to deal with. Try doing that while having to hear about hordes of people complain about the fact you aren't continuing a story that you aren't getting paid for, and you're only doing because you love the story. Even if he told us that he really doesn't have time because he needs to care for his kid, someone here will complain he's just being lazy and that he has time for that. No, if he had the time, he would write, but he has something much more important then the story to deal with. He's not just "spending his free time eating donuts and possibly going to bars"That's not even bringing up that fact he has his job with Lego, which doesn't involve BIONICLE, writing for Ninjago.If you mean Lego, they don't have to care. They don't make BIONICLE sets anymore, so they don't exactly care what happens. Individual members within the company might, but in all aspects, why care for a toyline that's been dead for two years?(sorry if that sounds bitter or mean, I'm not trying to make it that way)You know, you guys say that he has to take care of his kid and all that, but I've seen lots of much busier parents raise kids well and continue with their lives. More likely, Greg and Lego decided there's no way they can profit from all this, so they gave it the axe.

...Except if you got a bunch of kids and showed them the Bionicle movies and/or Hero Factory, most of them would probably think they're mediocre, compared to the much more spectacular action movies out there. Really, the biggest Bionicle fans are probably us...

Maybe a different professional writer, but definitely not one of us. Otherwise, we'll get another Bionicle Next Generation or Rebirth Chronicles scenario.

Don't forget, Lego did release a T-rated video game, so maybe a PG-13 rating wouldn't be out of the question.

Actually, I think the Bionicle films had way more problems than just cheesy lines- plot holes, poor characterization, bad voice acting/casting, story inconsistencies, etc., and there were certainly attempts to make it unnecesarily kid-friendly (A scene where a Rahkshi steps on a Kolhi ball was actually cut because they thought it'd make the villains too "mean." No joke.), but at least the first couple Bionicle flicks didn't shy away from a little danger every once in a while. Upping the film rating might fix said issues, though, because targeting a (partially) older audience might make them stops trying appeal exclusively to little kids by throwing in all that stupid dialoug, as well as maybe (probably not, though) having the audience have to suspend disbelief a little less.

If there's an inherent issue with marketing that sort of thing to a young demographic, then it sure doesn't seem to bother the companies doing it, which include Lego.

BioGio, if an action movie attempts to create suspense or a sense of danger at any point (which is obviously a given), then, unless the violence is brought to such extremes that it is considered unrealistic by audiences and not threatening (Quentin Tarantino, etc.), then violence to a PG-13 or R level will ALWAYS make the movie better. If there's no risk, audiences DON'T CARE. It's that simple. Now, if that's all there is to a movie, then it doesn't work and the movie has other issues (unless it's intended to be an exploitation movie) but I think Hero Factory woulkd like to at least attempt a story. Also, PG-13 really doesn't neccesarily (or very often) warrant a high level of violence at all (some of the recent super hero movies were relatively tame). You guys seem to associate anything above a PG with a grindhouse movie or something.

IMO, I sure hope they don't pull a Transformers and have the humor be another minstrel show...

Okay, Bonesii, I have absolutely no idea what version of the Hero Factory TV show you've been tuning in to, because it sure ain't anything like what the rest of us have been. The Heroes (I'll be generous and say "almost") never use their brains to solve problems. In fact, what ends up happening most of the time is that they get upgrades that don't do anything and are just present to sell toys (why did Bulk even have wrist blades if he never used them?), then go on in, shooting at the presumed "villains" (who, typically, don't seem to be participating in a whole heck of a lot of immorality in the first place) with laser guns that do absolutely zero damage, Maybe at the end they beat the bad guys with some deux ex machina that comes out of nowhere and might even be used to promote another toy (Rocka XL, the villains run out of ammunition, etc). The end. Admittably, Bionicle definitely veered away from creative thinking and more towards the Hero Factory formula near the end of its run, too... Now, here's why we want a PG-13. The problem is, with a PG (or Hero Factory's current kiddy-friendly state, anyway), nothing remotely dangerous ever happens. All the weapons don't do anything. All the villains are incompetent. The tension is nonexistent, the stakes are at rock bottom, and it's BORING. I want to care about what happens to our heroes (which would be a heck of a lot easier to do if they made them a little more likable, but that's a different matter). I want to be concerned about whether they're going to make it through or not. I want to be at least a little involved with this movie, and in an action/adventure themed movie, a little violence is sort of key here. And right now, if it weren't so loud all the time, I could sleep through Hero Factory. Also, with a PG-13, they'd likely stop slathering it with endless @#$% one-liners... Besides, and I don't know if you guys live in particularly sheltered communities, or what, but from what I can tell, I would say at least 50% of Hero Factory's target audience has seen movies, etc, with PG-13 level content. You think no kids saw The Avengers? Plus, Lego never shies away from marketing TONS of (profitable) PG-13 stuff to kids. Star Wars, Harry Potter, Indiana Jones, Prince of Persia, Pirates of the Caribbean, the list goes on and on.

...Bet y'all LOVE Song of the South...

Here's exactly how this is going to be: We spent the first hour or so on Earth, where we meet our human cast; a cliche Jake Lloyd-esque little kid, his goofy dad (whom I'm guessing will be portrayed by the likes of Kevin James), his annoying little kid sister who does nothing, and his friends; the stereotypical wise-cracking black kid, the fat kid who can't stop eating, and the nerdy kid with the three-inch-thick glasses. They spend the duration of the hour making extremely low-brow slapstick and scatological jokes, and we find out that Jake Lloyd and his dad are having bonding problems or something like that. Then, in the last twenty minutes, an evil alien robot villain who can inexplicably speak English (and with a terrible Russian accent), along with his Mudflap and Skids-like henchmen, comes and says he's going to "take over the world" and stands around maniacally laughing the whole time. Then, completely out of the blue, with no explanation given whatsoever, the Heroes come, handcuff the villains, and bring him back to Makuhero city in a suspense, violence, action, and effortless process in which they work in the human cast and have them somehow help save the day or something, which helps bring the Jake lloyd doppelganger and his dad together. Synchronizer pop music played the entire time. The end.

Somebody seriously needs to update Herosector01...

Only "fail" means "awesome".No, fail means fail.The @#$% why?I'm surprised The Boondock Saints hasn't popped up here. It's like a cruddier version of Pulp Fiction.

Ah, yes, Asami. At first, I sort of liked that they seemed to be antagonizing her (I sure don't like her), but being a little more subtle about it than usual, instead the in-your-face method the show usually uses. But later, I realized that they really weren't antagonizing her at all, which really bugged me.

That's sort of what they made Matau's mask do in Legends of Metru Nui, right?

Okay, I don't think I'm getting through to you guys. Let me use another example; in a movie like, say, Saving Private Ryan (a much better movie than the Hunger Games, IMO), extreme violence is used not in order to entertain people and desensitize them, but to condemn violence by showing it's consequences. If they'd gone the easy way out and made a War Horse-esque "kid friendly" violent movie with subdued violence, they may have made more at the box office with tickets from younger people, but it would've been a different movie; It would've been missing the comdemnation of violence because it didn't have the guts to show its consequences, and thus weakening the movie's impact. Cash before quality.The Hunger Games, obviously, took the cheap, lazy, easy way out and subdued the more impacting violence from the book in order to get more money, thus making a worse movie. In fact, the subdued violence is more desensitizing, because instead of being in shock at the carnage displayed in front of them, the audience is cheering for Katniss to bloodlessly shoot some tribute whose name we don't know and who we don't care about in the slightest, off-screen, in shaky-cam.On a different note, The Hunger Games franchise has really become the Capitol, hasn't it? That doll...

Nice to see the old programs back.I'll bet that "new programming" is The Boondocks, though.

Actually, the "speculation" was taken from another forum. No idea if there was any evidence behind that.

Title sort of says it all. Toonami and The Boondocks are coming back to Adult Swim.

We're arguing that there's not enough violence in the movie, not too much. (Sigh) We thought the violence in the movie wasn't enough because it was subdued compared to the book (which we were plenty sensitive to) in order to make more money and ended up weakening the message.

Howard the duck :PSeriously, though, I hope I'm not the only one who says Black Panther...

I bet they'd hack it to bits with an axe. :PNah, I think this would actually work, because I have a theory:Instead of begging LEGO to make media, we should get permission from LEGO to get it made ourselves. If a bunch of us chip in, we could perhaps raise enough funding to do something like this. I like the idea of anime, but the characters MUST be non-human CONSTANTLY. None of the human-with-armour stuff we've seen all too much of.Keeping to canon, like books that never got a spotlight or the online serials sounds nice too, and works with the episodic nature of TV. Hewkii and Macku need a romance element, even if no other guys do. Your opinion is the closest to mine.I think the most realistic way of getting a series up on the air, would be to keep it on BZP. We don't want to aim for unrealisticly large goals. Maybe even having a link to it on the front page would suffice, as opposed to a forum topic. Still, it would be an enormously large amount of work. I think there are a lot of advantages to doing it ourselves instead of relying on lego to make us one. (E.G. cheesy joke/moment control, and we could determine what we would like to see in this sort of thing.As for swearing and violence, I don't think that would work very well. Mild violence is expected of course, as Bionicle is a battle oriented theme. Almost everyone has some sort of weapon or tool of destruction.Romance? A little bit would be nice for char development, and the social side of things, but DO NOT overdo it.I have actually been working on a Bionicle animation series already, but haven't gotten further than episode 1 and half of episode two.For BZPower, "actually getting something done" is an unrealistic goal. It's never gonna happen.

Yeah, they got, uh, merchandise (for lack of a better word) in Star Wars, too. Lego just doesn't want to do it because the customers will be all AFOLs.

If the violence was portrayed in a desensitized way (like in an exploitation film), people might go for it. However, it wasn't portrayed like that; it simply wasn't portrayed much at all, even for a PG-13, just to bring in more money at the box office; one guy bloodlessly shot with an arrow, a really harmlessly portrayed neck being broken, a blurry, quick and rather cheesy looking shot of bee stings, and one character being poked with a spear. That's all. Tintin was more violent. Basically, instead of thinking "Oh my god, twenty-three kids just died," like they did with the book, viewers are thinking more along the lines of "Yay! Go, Katniss!" etc. The subdued violence was just as desensitizing as enhanced violence would have been.