masterchirox580

This post is completely true.

Please ignore this topic, it was a failed attempt to mock a website I sincerely hated, I'm sorry for wasting your time.

Well I used to have a box of duplo bricks if that counts, bionicle was the first lego theme I got into so the first packaged set I got was likely a toa nuva(seeing as to how I got into it back in 2002).

Huh it's already up on the UK server, this is surprising to me as we don't usually get it on the UK product page until after the Americans, certainly goes to show that lego are going big seeing as to how they are not prioritizing one particular market.

Something interesting I noticed over at the LMBs: https://community.lego.com/t5/LEGO-General/Chat-with-Greg-Farshtey/td-p/6605180/page/469 He says "I am only only familiar with first half year story for 2015", summer wave confirmed?

Well I guess it's safe to declare that it's over for HF, so long HF you had your ups(breakout) and your downs(IFB), for some you created great love for your simple design and light hearted good robot stops bad robot story, and in others you inspired hatred for your simple design and light hearted good robot stops bad robot story. But in the end I think we can at least give HF this, it tried to capture the youth like bionicle did in the two thousands, sure it might have failed but at least it tried to have a unique identity which is something we don't see in most lego themes today. so yeah goodbye HF.

Well seeing as to how bio is due for a return next year one question I have is will there be a new video game for the theme? In the past lego have produced quite a few video games for the theme, most of them differed in gameplay style and genre with the last one being released in 2006. So my question is do you think a new game will be produced and what will the gameplay be like?

I'm sorry. I shouldn't have let my emotions get to me like that, but I can't stand it when people take their dislike of a set to the point of insulting the designers themselves. I want to be a Lego set designer at some point, after all, so when someone says they were "lazy" or that a set "looks like it was designed by a five-year-old" it can drive me up the wall. Lego set designers have to take a lot of factors into consideration that many fans can't begin to comprehend—things like ease of building, price-point, the budget for new molds or recolors, and many other factors. The way I see it, people are a lot more critical of actual sets than they are of MOCs—if you wouldn't describe a person's MOC as "lazy" to their face, I don't see why you should describe a set like that, especially when in that case you know even less about the constraints the designer was working with. Well apology excepted, I'm not gonna bother answering the rest of your post as we'll probably be back to where we were before. P.S On an off topic note could someone please explain to me how the mask thing works on this forum.

Well here's the thing with that, first of all TLM was being planned as early as 2008 and I believe it was greenlighted in november of 2011, I remember during that time we'd get little bits of information each year. With this thing it's a case of one news report and the project just vapourized never to be heard of again, and if HF is ending then this thing will definitely get cancelled(assuming it hasn't been already).

If it's anything like the TV show then absolutely no, could it ever happen? I doubt it, I mean as far as I know LOC really didn't have quite the sales and influence that ninjago had so I don't see it happening.

I never said IFB was the reason why lego are likely getting rid of the theme, what I was trying to say was that in my mind IFB proved lego doesn't care about the theme anymore and don't care what gets shoveled out for it. If Lego didn't care about the theme anymore, we wouldn't likely have gotten a subtheme as amazing as IFB has been. If IFB was made with the knowledge of it being HF's last year (and that's entirely possible), it's quite clear from the set designs that Lego pulled out all the stops. Minifigure-scale heroes are a real treat for fans, allowing them to make greater use of the characters alongside other themes once the HF theme is no longer with us. The IFB set designs are on the whole much more creative and diverse than those of any other HF subtheme, and from what I've seen have worked wonders in terms of introducing the constraction category to audiences who hadn't previously given it the time of day. If Lego truly didn't care what got "shoveled out" for Hero Factory, we would've gotten a fairly traditional year of sets to bridge the gap between Brain Attack and Bionicle—not the most creative and experimental subtheme to date. The only thing mildly disappointing about IFB was the TV episode, and let's be honest, it's far from the first TV episode to fail to meet expectations. So while it's possible that the contract with the prior production company ran out and Lego chose not to renew it in anticipation of HF's end, that doesn't mean the subtheme as a whole was halfhearted in any way, shape, or form. Well that's your opinion on IFB so here's mine, invasion from below is a pathetic bid to try and get regular lego fans into HF, it's a mutation of exo-force gone wrong, I mean look at evo walker and rocka crawler, they look like mocs done by a five year old. And most of the sets are like this, not to mention the colouring sucks, these sets use way too much gunmetal grey, and I can barely tell any of the beasts apart, and the ones that are different just look like any other bland monsters that lego have created. The only positive I can find in these things is the minifigures, and I'm not willing to spend thirteen pounds on a minifigure. So my view on IFB is that sucks and I'm so glad they decided to bring back bionicle. Evo Walker and Rocka Crawler occupy the lowest price-point of the series and are far from indicative of the line as a whole. The larger sets are much more complex—they feature unique and creative builds and designs, and I'd love you to point me to the "five-year-old" who is a good enough designer to come up with, say, the torso build of Furno Jet Machine, the elaborate build of Evo XL Machine, or the grappling claw launcher of Breez Flea Machine. The fact that you see fit to insult the actual designers (who, I might add, are PAID to do this and have to take into account many more factors than the preferences of whiny and entitled fans) is proof enough that your "opinion" is both ignorant and offensive. But then again, you seem to be just as self-important and deluded as the AFOLs who commonly decry constraction themes in general as "not real Lego", so I suppose there are bad apples in every corner of the fandom. Didn't realize mod had already done something about this, so I've decided to remove the post.

I remember back in 2012 hearing about a potential live-action movie based on HF, lego were supposedly discussing the idea with universal and it would have been written by the same guys who did predator. But since then nothing's been heard about it, so it leaves a lot of questions such as, what happened to it? Why did it(presumably)get cancelled? Was it even true? And I also ask you would it have been a good idea and what would it have been like?

I never said IFB was the reason why lego are likely getting rid of the theme, what I was trying to say was that in my mind IFB proved lego doesn't care about the theme anymore and don't care what gets shoveled out for it. If Lego didn't care about the theme anymore, we wouldn't likely have gotten a subtheme as amazing as IFB has been. If IFB was made with the knowledge of it being HF's last year (and that's entirely possible), it's quite clear from the set designs that Lego pulled out all the stops. Minifigure-scale heroes are a real treat for fans, allowing them to make greater use of the characters alongside other themes once the HF theme is no longer with us. The IFB set designs are on the whole much more creative and diverse than those of any other HF subtheme, and from what I've seen have worked wonders in terms of introducing the constraction category to audiences who hadn't previously given it the time of day. If Lego truly didn't care what got "shoveled out" for Hero Factory, we would've gotten a fairly traditional year of sets to bridge the gap between Brain Attack and Bionicle—not the most creative and experimental subtheme to date. The only thing mildly disappointing about IFB was the TV episode, and let's be honest, it's far from the first TV episode to fail to meet expectations. So while it's possible that the contract with the prior production company ran out and Lego chose not to renew it in anticipation of HF's end, that doesn't mean the subtheme as a whole was halfhearted in any way, shape, or form. Well that's your opinion on IFB so here's mine, invasion from below is a pathetic bid to try and get regular lego fans into HF, it's a mutation of exo-force gone wrong, I mean look at evo walker and rocka crawler, they look like mocs done by a five year old. And most of the sets are like this, not to mention the colouring sucks, these sets use way too much gunmetal grey, and I can barely tell any of the beasts apart, and the ones that are different just look like any other bland monsters that lego have created. The only positive I can find in these things is the minifigures, and I'm not willing to spend thirteen pounds on a minifigure. So my view on IFB is that sucks and I'm so glad they decided to bring back bionicle.

I never said IFB was the reason why lego are likely getting rid of the theme, what I was trying to say was that in my mind IFB proved lego doesn't care about the theme anymore and don't care what gets shoveled out for it.

Over on the LMBs Greg has discussed his involvement in the new line and has hinted it will be a reboot. Link's here: https://community.lego.com/t5/LEGO-General/Chat-with-Greg-Farshtey/td-p/6605180/page/464

I've also noticed that the connectors seem to resemble the connectors used for the helmets in the old knights kingdom action figures.

I almost screamed when I saw that mask, also I see connectors on the side of the mask.

So this is where you introduce yourself, well in that case hi I'm masterchirox580, I've been into bionicle since I was three or four and to this day have strong feelings for the theme, I decided to come to BZpower as bionicle is coming back next year and I believe said comeback will bring new life to the community.

If you follow LEGO's Twitter page, you may have noticed that they are counting down to some kind of special reveal. It's assumed to be a reveal of Bionicle based on a few key factors. You can check that out here. -Rez I'd love it if at said event Lego said the following: Yes we admit it, we're reintroducing bionicle in 2015, we are aware that the grand majority already know this because many of you couldn't be patient and ruined the surprise, so yeah I don't even know why we're doing this reveal when you all already know. That would be a pretty funny reveal.

So how will bio 2015 be revealed, a simple twitter post, a big livestream event, a simple press release, or maybe something else entirely, what do you think?

It's a three-legged walker with a grappling claw? Not that difficult to comprehend... Well here's a better question, what were they thinking when they designed that thing, seriously that thing looks awful.

It shows no such thing. BIONICLE had actual System playsets for three years, but that didn't mean the designers didn't think it would be successful as a constraction theme, it simply meant they wanted to try something they could never do at a regular constraction scale. Meanwhile, unlike the BIONICLE playsets, the building styles used in Invasion from Below are no different than what you'd find in any other constraction set. The most likely reason for the change in scale in Invasion from Below is that the LEGO Group wanted to cash in the popularity of mecha and giant monster franchises like Pacific Rim and Godzilla, and it would have been impossible to evoke that kind of colossal scale with regular constraction sets. I doubt it has anything to do with the Brain Attack sets not selling, since the number of set stayed the same between 2013 and 2014, and the average price for a set and the total price for the theme as a whole actually INCREASED. (2013 sets cost $213 total, or $14.20 on average, while 2014 sets cost $250 total, or $16.67 on average). The LEGO Group has shown time and time again what they do when they think a theme is running out of steam — they reduce both the number and average price of new sets for that theme. The BIONICLE Stars are a perfect example. I have no idea how well Invasion from Below is selling, but I haven't seen any indication that it's been doing poorly. People have been saying Hero Factory has been doing poorly since it began, but LEGO still kept coming out with new sets. With that said, I do think Invasion from Below will probably be the last series of Hero Factory sets, since BIONICLE's return seems like it's going to be a pretty big deal for the LEGO Group and they might not want to jeopardize that by releasing a whole bunch of other constraction sets alongside it. Well the bionicle system sets ran along side the action figures so that really doesn't count seeing as to how Hero factory has had it's style nearly replaced(with the exception of the beasts). That aside I admit I probably should have written that better, however to my understanding the marketing budget for HF has been cut yearly which would suggest lackluster sales. And I believe lego talked about this before when they were questioned about how well HF sells and there response was pretty much "meh" the fact they feel they have to bring back bionicle shows HF can't be doing all that well. To say Hero Factory had its style "nearly replaced" is an overstatement—all of the sets were still almost entirely constraction-based, to the point where the majority of beast sets would not look out of place next to full-sized Heroes from previous years. But of course, in that case they'd be a lot less impressive compared to the titanic scale they were given by virtue of the shift to minifigure-scale. And the switch to minifigure mechs rather than traditional humanoid heroes allowed for a lot more diversity in terms of set designs—a good thing whether or not Hero Factory was struggling. Hero Factory has never been an exceptional success like Bionicle was in its early years, and I feel Lego was fairly content with that. Bionicle's return could certainly indicate that Hero Factory was failing, but honestly I think it has more to do with Lego being in a better state to make Bionicle a success. These days, Lego movies and TV shows are much more common, and successful, than they were back in Bionicle's day when a movie about Lego was seen as a novelty at best. This is a prime time to bring back one of Lego's first story-intensive themes. Hero Factory missed its chance to win over hearts and minds in its first year, so there's no doubt the fresh start Bionicle provides could jump-start the constraction category in general. What I meant by "had it's style nearly replaced" was that they switched from humanoid robot things to mechs, and I personally believe they're bringing back bio because HF is failing and they think bio could save that market for them(after all it did sorta save the entire company when it first came out). I hope that at some point in the future lego explain why they decided to bring it back.

Easily exo-force, the sets themselves just had more personality to them and the sets just had better design, I can't even make sense of half the IFB sets(seriously could someone please explain the flea machine to me).

It shows no such thing. BIONICLE had actual System playsets for three years, but that didn't mean the designers didn't think it would be successful as a constraction theme, it simply meant they wanted to try something they could never do at a regular constraction scale. Meanwhile, unlike the BIONICLE playsets, the building styles used in Invasion from Below are no different than what you'd find in any other constraction set. The most likely reason for the change in scale in Invasion from Below is that the LEGO Group wanted to cash in the popularity of mecha and giant monster franchises like Pacific Rim and Godzilla, and it would have been impossible to evoke that kind of colossal scale with regular constraction sets. I doubt it has anything to do with the Brain Attack sets not selling, since the number of set stayed the same between 2013 and 2014, and the average price for a set and the total price for the theme as a whole actually INCREASED. (2013 sets cost $213 total, or $14.20 on average, while 2014 sets cost $250 total, or $16.67 on average). The LEGO Group has shown time and time again what they do when they think a theme is running out of steam — they reduce both the number and average price of new sets for that theme. The BIONICLE Stars are a perfect example. I have no idea how well Invasion from Below is selling, but I haven't seen any indication that it's been doing poorly. People have been saying Hero Factory has been doing poorly since it began, but LEGO still kept coming out with new sets. With that said, I do think Invasion from Below will probably be the last series of Hero Factory sets, since BIONICLE's return seems like it's going to be a pretty big deal for the LEGO Group and they might not want to jeopardize that by releasing a whole bunch of other constraction sets alongside it. Well the bionicle system sets ran along side the action figures so that really doesn't count seeing as to how Hero factory has had it's style nearly replaced(with the exception of the beasts). That aside I admit I probably should have written that better, however to my understanding the marketing budget for HF has been cut yearly which would suggest lackluster sales. And I believe lego talked about this before when they were questioned about how well HF sells and there response was pretty much "meh" the fact they feel they have to bring back bionicle shows HF can't be doing all that well.

I'm pretty sure you're wrong. Invasion From Below did probably switch to using minifigures to freshen things up (and I'd say it succeeded, given how much more diverse and unique this year's sets were than previous years), but if Lego REALLY had no faith in the theme, we'd have gotten a small wave with only a few new molds, like the Bionicle Stars—not two massive waves with plenty of new parts designed to integrate the CCBS with minifigures. And I haven't seen any indication that the Invasion From Below sets have been unpopular—the sets haven't been experiencing steep discounts anywhere that I've seen, and in terms of online reactions I've probably seen more praise for the Invasion From Below sets than I've ever seen for Hero Factory in general. Could you give me an example of how many new molds we got beyond the minifigures, cockpits, spider things, that monster head mold, and that backpack thing, because beyond that I don't see much.