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    ChocolateFrogs

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    I wish we got 7 inches. Where I got we only got a slight dusting and only about 1 inch stuck and its totally useless snow :( The last big snow fall, my bro made a 10 foot or so snowman, I can't remember exactly how tall but it was huge. But before that he made 7 or so smaller ones and then he wacked them to pieces with his machete ^^ It was fun. I also threw a tiny knife into the snowman from a good distance away....Good times...

    Popup2: The Camel

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    Ya, I guess I should have done that. I wrote it between 1:30-2:30 so I was pretty tired.

    I think I'm going to take out the side comments and print it out/post it later.

     

    Well your question, which of the types of universe are you refering to? Do you think you could better explain the situation that your asking about? I have no idea where my ideas come from.

     

    Well the whole different dimension just came to me as I was writing. If you were a complete;y selfish person you could use a dimension portal to change aspects of your life, but yes it would be impractical and it would still leave your old universe with the original problem, and 1 less bright mind to think about it.

     

    hmm. I'll do some reaserch on the movie, but I doubt I'll see it cause I never see movies.

    Had to merge it with post above.

     

    Revised with a more third person point of view and I removed all the comments.

     

    Types of Universes:

     

    Well back to time travel. It all depends on what type of universe you want to use. I'm just going to make up some terms to use so forgive me if it seems a bit odd but oh well. It helps me think about stuff better.

    In a "static" universe time is going on at all points in time so that if you jump from one timezone to another, you cease to exist in your previous timeline. So if you go to the point of time and space in which he time traveled, he wouldn't be there. So basically there is only one person place and so on. So if you change what time your in, you not in the other timezone. This is the kind of universe that Star Trek takes place. Heres an example of the properties of this universe. You have a time machine. But once you use it. It completely disapears from were it was created because there can only be one of an object

     

    As in Star Trek, they are not able to “fix” the time line because, the time machine in the future doesn’t exist. So they can’t stop him from going to the past in the first place.

     

    In a "Continuing" universe ,if time travel is in affect, the time line is always changing. If you go to the time and place in which some one is time traveling. You will see them going in the process. Its kind of hard to explain. So in this universe there are multiple copies of yourself doing different things at the different times that you exist.

     

    An example of this universe is the universe in Back to the Future. As the main character has the opportunity to stop him from going in time. In other words, you can see the object disappear when they time travel.

     

    Of these two types of universe there are even more types of side universes that I can think of. There is the "String" universe cause I think this is what string theory deals with. String universe deal with the idea that everything that is happens cannot change no matter if you time travel or not. This is the kind of universe that I believe the Harry Potter is in. Because in the Prisoner of Azkaban, they attempt to change what happened but in reality they actually fulfill what actually happened.

     

    And then there is the "Tree" universe. This deals with the idea that at every possible point in time that some thing happens there is an infinite number of possible out comes. So there are in theory, infinite number of universe, every one different than the other. But it is possible to change what happens in your "Leaf" of the timeline. If you continue the tree example. If you were to take a time machine and travel to a place were a "branch meets another branch" and you change what happened this causes the universe that you reside in to no longer take that path. There are two more universes that fall under these. There is the universe where there are infinite universes for every possible outcome. The “Leaf” universe because there’s a “Leaf” or different universe for each possible out come. But a second universe could be that 1 universe travels along the "Branches" making decisions as to what is happening. This is the “Single Branch” universe. So there are an infinite number of options but only one path is taken by the universe. If it were some how possible to jump back to a break, you can change the direction the universe goes.

     

    The two major types of universes, Static and Continuing, can be either String, Leaf and Single branch types of Tree. Static is the basic universe and String is a “Zoomed” in with more definite things that must be in order for it to be. The tree theories can be categorized into Continuous except for the last one, because that was kind of in-between the two.

     

    The types of universes are just universes in which time travel is actually possible and can be achieved. There could be many other types of universe I’m just writing what I can think of as possible for time travel.

     

    How to stop time travelers in the different universes:

     

    Ok, now that I've told the universe maybe I can talk about how you can stop some one in each universe.

     

    In the Static universe theory. If some one time travels to another point in time, they no longer exists in the time where they are. So the only way to stop them is to destroy the time machine in what ever time zone its in. If it is destroyed that object ceases to exist. It neither exists in the time in whats made or at all the other points in time.

     

    In the Continuing universe, if you destroy the time machine in the timeline that its moved to, you will only destroy the copy that went to the past/future. And there still exists in the time when it came from that hasn't yet gone into the future.

     

    On the string theory universe, if something goes wrong, oh well theres no way to change what happened. It may appear to people that go into the past that they change the outcome, but since it has already happened to the people before them (Kind of like the grand father paradox)

     

    In the Tree universes, The way to counter act time travel there is to go to the point that they changed and stop them to traveling. Another way is to leap to a point that is a major point in their creating the time travel device and to stop it from being ever exist. But since it never existed you would never have to go, but since you didn’t go it was made which makes you need to do it and so on.

     

    With the Main tree theory, the way to counter it is just change the events in the past that lead up to what you don’t want happened.

     

    But with the “Single Branch” theory, the only way to stop an event is to go to a “Branch” that is before the time they went back and changed it. Going to the point that is changed and redirecting it toward the future that you want to therefore counteracting what the other time traveler did.

     

    Time Travel, Future vs. Past:

     

    There is a big difference between going to the past and changing things and then going to the future except in a few universes. In a static universe, if you go back in time it affects you however you changed the time line.

     

    The question I’m asking is, what happens if your in a static universe and go into the future and change things. Does it in some way affect you? Hmm.. well if you go back to Star Trek. If you go to the future…Ok you know what I think I’ll skip that for now.

     

    In time travel in general if you are the first person to invent a time machine/ and no one has come back and fiddle with the timeline, no matter what universe you inhabit, your actions in the future will not affect you at all. This will be changed in some universes though. If you are the third/last tree universe, if some one comes from the future and changes something before you, and then you go and change something before their time using time travel in will in turn affect that person causing your universe to follow another path and one that doesn’t include what the person changed, so their actions are nulled.

     

    Say there are two scientists. Bob, who lives in the 24th century, and Steve who lives in the 30th century. Steve wants time travel to be invented earlier so he goes to the 23rd century and plants the seeds to the unlocking of time travel. So bob in order to try out his new time machine he goes to the 29th century and kills Steve’s grandfather. Then Steve is never born, ergo, Steve never goes back in time, and never plants the seeds. Basically it creates a grandfather paradox…Again… This is all in the third tree universe.

     

    Another way to “time travel”: or to get the affects of it

     

    In the second universe there is another way to get the affects of time travel with out having to go back in time. You just need to make a dimensional portal. If you can find the universe where the thing you wanted accomplished is the only thing that is different, you can go to that universe. And thus you accomplish what could be done with time travel with out having to go back in time.

    It is basically the same boat as the static universe in this sense.

     

    Ok back to the other universes. As I think about it in all of the universes I’ve proposed, unless there is a second time traveler affecting the future will not affect you.

     

    Types Of Universes: Just to make this more clear

    Static- Every thing that has happened will always happened and it may appear to be able to change but it really is impossible.

    Continuing – Well the time line is always changing, that is with time travel in the picture and there are multiple copies of everything.

    String- is a type of Static universe in which everything is fixed and it is impossible to change anything.

    Tree – Well, these universes deal with the idea that in every point of time where something happens there is an infinite number of possibilities.

    1) Infinate number of universes for every possible outcome.

    2) Infinate paths that could be taken but only one is chosen.

    ChocolateFrogs

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    I'm more a fan of the classic Star Trek time traveling (classic being The Voyage Home and First Contact as opposed to the J.J. Abrams one). I mean, how else are we gonna save the whales?

     

    Also, Stargate: SG1 had the best time travel episodes ever (Window of Opportunity and 1969)!

     

    I love Window of Opportunity.

     

    "Next time I won't be so forgiving!"

    "What? This is the first time."

     

    "If we don't find a way out of this I'm going to loose it.....loose it...it means go crazy....bonsai... no longer in the possession of the fact that he's three fries short of a happy meal. WACKO!!!"

     

    I'm writing my theories about time travel and its turning out to be quite long, 3 pages already and I'm not finished. If you want me to post I will if you want me to but I'm taking a break and I'd like to post this and go to sleep....

     

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    ChocolateFrogs

    Posted

    hmm I have to say, this is what my friend said when we discussing Rubik's Cubes:

     

    "Man. I can get a few sides, I once got 5 sides but I couldn't get the last one" I just busted out laughing.

     

    But keep at it. As Black Six it does become second nature. I don't even think of the algorithms any more, I just do them.

     

    If you ever get some good times you should post them (Good time equals anything less than 30 minutes)

     

    And I need to learn how to do my bro's professor's cube, if he ever lets me touch it :P

    ChocolateFrogs

    Posted

    I love rubik's Cubes. Me and my bro have tons.

     

    I think my bro's best time was something like 53 seconds. Mines 1 minute and 30 some seconds....

     

    And alas. My christmas was legoless as well....And wow....I just got the pun for "Their taking the hobits to Isengard"....ahh...good movies.... But any way. I hope my parents get me some of the stars for My birthday....

    ChocolateFrogs

    Posted

    I am kind of a mix between a nerd and a geek. I'm kinda a nerd because I would call myself pretty smart. Like I've never failed a class, and I'm quite sure I've never gone through a class lower than an "A-". But its not like thats the only thing I do. Its just natural to me because I have an almost photographic memory. I remember things that I think are interesting. So I just happen to remember things so I rarely have to study for my tests. I listen to my friends tell me how they were studying all night last night and how they still get lower than me even though I just looked it over for a few minutes or in a portion of study hall.

    But then, I also would call myself a geek because I like all the kind of things that geeks like. I love Star Trek, Star Wars, Bionicle and all those kind of things.

     

    But I draw the line a Dork. I may be a bit queer if you met me....

    ChocolateFrogs

    Posted

    I'm not a particularly what you call a "regular" but I think I'll start reading your blog a little more often.

     

    Well, I haven't seen all of the new episodes of SGU but I can tell you of what I have seen. I think this show will go on for a few years but not even close to the original show's ten years. The original series opened up new possibilities. They had thousands of planets to explore each one could be more elaborate or interesting than the next. But with SGU, they are very limited on what they can do. They can only visit a few amounts of planets, those the star drive thing takes them to, and as you said they won't have any "Rubber faced" aliens. So they can't really meet new aliens. And they could possibly meet some ancients (Or stuff left by them) but other than that they have no new ideas unless they can get the ship completely fixed and do some actual exploring, not hanging by a thread.

     

    When I first heard the initial news about them starting SGU I heard that they would be involving the ancients and they would go back in time and do a show about the ancients in their battle with the wraith or something like that. But then I saw a commercial and I saw Eli in a hoodie (Spelling?) and thought "Thats not how ancients dress :( " I was kind of disappointed that they weren't doing one on them.

     

    One thing that I liked about SG1 is the wit and humor. They started doing, in my opinion, some pretty hilarious stuff. And I had so much fun watching the episodes. But I didn't really enjoy watching SGU. I was just thinking right now and I think this would have made an excellent movie. But as a series they're are dragging it on.

     

    Well thats all that I think about the series and I agree with some of the things said so far. I don't think that I'll be watching it at eagerly as I had SG1 and SGA.

     

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    Sif

    Posted

    Lets just say I was bored.... And I know my math...

     

    I'll give you a cookie if you can give me the answer to this:

     

    (Y+4)x(Y-2)=0

    y=?

     

    (I skipped ahead in my math book because I was bored and I accually got it.)

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